Henrietta Street
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- September 3, 2008 at 3:05 pm #712696
ctesiphon
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
From the image it would appear it is intended to built the parapet in a different brick, matching that of the rebuilt 19th century parapet of the adjoining house. Surely the correct thing to do is to rebuilt both parapets in appropriate brick.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks, and agreed- what a silly idea. It’s not as if this is in the category of ‘sham ruin’.
September 4, 2008 at 10:57 am #712697urbanisto
ParticipantI’d opt for the mesh myself…its hot a very curious quality atht i think would contrast well with the exsting buildings. The glass is boring.
September 4, 2008 at 11:41 am #712698gunter
ParticipantThere are a couple of interesting things said about the winning scheme in the competition citation. One thing that strikes me is the praise rightly given to the simple devise of the recessed or ‘negative corner’ that articulates the reconstructed front facade from the new creation that is the side elevation onto Henrietta Place.
If this is the moment that contemporary architecture redescovers the power of subtlety, this will have been a good day’s work.
‘Reconstruction’ ! that was another forbidden word.
There could be a lot to take from this. Even that side elevation with it’s, initially strange, Hanseatic brick arcading is starting to make sense to me. These early Georgian houses were all about their heavy brick solidity, they were the sober anti-dote to the fantastic, precarious, Dutch Billys that predominated in the Dublin urban scene in the 1720s. This winning design takes the sober brick solidity and has a bit of dark fun with it.
Ryan W. Kennihan might have a strange bastardized spelling to his name, but hats off to him, the boy’s done well.
September 4, 2008 at 12:58 pm #712699fergalr
Participant@gunter wrote:

Concrete.It looks a little like Megatron is trying to couple with the adjoining building… :confused:
September 4, 2008 at 2:10 pm #712700GP
ParticipantConcrete – set of diving platforms?
How come this street fails in its potential? It is known widely around the world from the many period films it is used in. What would it cost in real money to fix? Why does it never seem to grab the attention of the legal profession for use as cahmbers or the like, surely this is a sympathetic solution?
A street of 18th century palazzios in a moribund part of the city – it seems unreal. I suspect that we will have to wait until the next boom.
The last comment I would make is about the briock option, is lokks good but just brings Breugels Tower of Babel to mind.
http://agnosticatheism.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/babel1.jpg
September 4, 2008 at 2:29 pm #712701Paul Clerkin
KeymasterFurther images
September 4, 2008 at 2:35 pm #712702ctesiphon
ParticipantThe right kind of brick is going to be absolutely crucial for this.
Is it planned to be built with traditional techniques, I wonder, or will it be modern? Those look suspiciously like brick jack arches in the third image.
September 4, 2008 at 2:44 pm #712703gunter
ParticipantIt’s not a crematorium, is it?
September 5, 2008 at 4:52 pm #712704neatdesign
Participant@gunter wrote:
It’s not a crematorium, is it?
Nope Gunter, it’s a drug cutting lab, hence the bricked up windows.
neatd.
September 5, 2008 at 6:15 pm #712705Anonymous
InactiveClose enough to Dominick St the first mega drug mart in the late 1970’s to create cluster of knowledge!!
Seriously this is conceptually outstanding; the finish of the brick is just sublime. I really hope this gets built
September 5, 2008 at 7:01 pm #712706johnglas
ParticipantSo do I; H St needs a fillip. I take it this is by the architects (deB+M?) who did that masterly (or mistressly) newbuild at Cork IT.
Good brickwork is a timeless aesthetic and ‘native’ to Dublin, BUT what is it – a house, an office, a museum?
The rear view shows some interesting contrasts: the Amsterdam School flats, the ‘decent’ contemporary do., the absolutely dire neglect of the rear facades of the adjoining houses (why is grey cement the default material?) and the rubbish surfacing of the lane. But what a gem Henrietta St is – I don’t care how twee it gets, it just needs a good kick up the arse. I think this will do it.September 5, 2008 at 7:10 pm #712707Paul Clerkin
KeymasterIt’s by Ryan W. Kennihan Architects
http://ireland.archiseek.com/news/2008/000236.htmlSeptember 5, 2008 at 7:11 pm #712708Anonymous
InactiveIt needs funding very badly; it is a real shame that unlike the UK where you have a very solvent national trust structure both in Scotland and the rest and the US where there are numerous local and specialist national non-profit groups which are extemely solvent over a five year cycle. In Ireland there is no-one with the money to make an intervention.
Completing a compulsory purchase of landlords such as the Underwoods is welcome and is certainly the kick up the arse you refer to but the lack of finance to do what the Underwoods were cpo’d for not doing is the real problem. I would join a group on Henrietta Street if one existed.
September 5, 2008 at 9:11 pm #712709gunter
Participant@PVC King wrote:
I would join a group on Henrietta Street if one existed.
I believe notjim recently pointed out that no. 7 was up for sale and, if I’m not mistaken, suggested we all club together to find the €1.85M asking price!
archiseek all living together as one big disfunctional family, in delapidated splendour, is surely a vision with fate written all over it.
September 5, 2008 at 11:52 pm #712710ctesiphon
ParticipantIt would complement the convent up the road quite nicely too.
As long as someone has a word with hutton about not leaving his teabags in the sink, count me in.
September 6, 2008 at 6:10 pm #712711PTB
ParticipantI’m calling shotgun on a double bed
Will this competition be followed through to completion or is it a ‘what if?’ exercise.
October 2, 2008 at 3:18 pm #712712interiorlight
ParticipantIs it possible to access any of the buildings for interior photography , as an irish photograher who documents such I find it almost impossible to gain access before they are changed . Any help apreciated .
October 2, 2008 at 4:13 pm #712713Paul Clerkin
KeymasterMaybe drop a lettter into the houses – will probably work.
July 28, 2009 at 5:05 pm #712714aj
Participant@Jas wrote:
so henrietta street has been left to rot since 1992…….
still no progress 2009.
I walked around Heinretta Street on Saturday and could not believe the condition the street is in.
Surely there has to be a self sustaining / funding use for this street.
July 28, 2009 at 5:52 pm #712715johnglas
ParticipantShareyour views; in all my visits to Dublin, I can never understand why this street is in the condition that it’s in. Since it is in the heart of the legal quarter, the obvious solution is for the houses to be developed as some kind of legal ‘chambers’ (although I’m aware the Irish Bar does not operate that system), especially on the south side of the street (with the vanished no. 16 replaced). The Sisters of Charity have done a grand job with nos. 8-10, so there is no inherent reason apart form inertia and the fact that it’s not south of the river why the rest should not be done. That and the fact that your planning department is terminally useless. But why doesn’t Dublin Civic Trust get a grant and do it themselves and then lease them off? (Sorry, forgot about the inalienable and untouchable rights of private property, no matter how irresponsible.)
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