Henrietta Street
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Paul Clerkin.
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- April 23, 2002 at 2:23 pm #712676
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ParticipantThere are actually two for sale (3 & 14)
I doubt if The Kings Inns would need that much room & whether they would be appropriate for their uses.September 4, 2002 at 10:27 am #712677Paul Clerkin
KeymasterNo 15 has the builders in at the moment. A new roof is going on, the galvanised temp onw has been removed and there was a delivery of steel girders during the last few weeks. Also sounds of building work from within.
Just from living beside them, some of the houses are in a dreadful state. Ian Lumley of An Taisce, his looks desperate from outside, must be rotting inside.
September 4, 2002 at 10:34 am #712678GregF
ParticipantI thought this street was designated a National Heritage Site………Jesus are they waiting for the buildings to fall down before they do anything….It’s gas the two faceness of the clicque….they spend millions excavating fields and bogs wanting to put up tourist centres yet they let our already built environment fall down about us……the thick C***ts..will they ever cop on. I think it is a part of that anti Dub thing……..which led to the brutal destruction of Ireland’s capital city in the first place.
September 4, 2002 at 10:37 pm #712679James
ParticipantActually
Lumleys House No 12 is in prettty good state of repair he’s beenworking onit for the last twenty years so no surprises there.
Caseys, no 13 is in very good nick and 4 (Hanrattys) ispristine internally, don’t be deceived by dirty brickwork.
Ask for a tour.
September 5, 2002 at 9:41 am #712680Paul Clerkin
KeymasterNo4 is pristine? Funny I got that impression from it, must be the well painted front door, thats normally the last thing to be done.
August 21, 2008 at 2:04 pm #712681notjim
ParticipantNow is your chance: #7 Henrietta St on sale for 1.85 MEur! Let’s all chip in.
August 21, 2008 at 2:17 pm #712682reddy
ParticipantThe results of the competition for no.16 Henrietta St are due to go on public display in the next couple of weeks. In the City Council Offices I think. Should be interesting to see the various responses. They received around eighty entries. I presume a winner will be announced before the exhibition.
August 21, 2008 at 2:36 pm #712683newgrange
ParticipantSlightly OT, but would anyone have a picture of the original 16 Henrietta Street? Saw it being requested on another forum.
August 29, 2008 at 11:55 am #712684missarchi
Participanthalf of the entry’s are already on display at DCC the carpark one is a classic…
be good if Hackett’s print properly;)August 29, 2008 at 11:57 pm #712685gunter
ParticipantHad some business in the Planning office today and I got off a few snaps of the Henrietta Street Competition exhibition while I was there.
Even from a two minute inspection, it was clear that the entries could be broken down into a few distinct categories.
For convenience, I’ve listed them: Glass, Brick, Mesh and Concrete.
Here’s one example of each:

Glass
Brick
mesh
Concrete.That last one is off the wall completely. The exhibition seemed to be well worth a look. As usual though, there was no information about how long the exhibition was to be up for and no external banners or anything to entice the public in.
York Street and Henrietta Street are two threads of a very interesting potential debate that unfortunately isn’t actually happening.
September 3, 2008 at 10:40 am #712686neatdesign
ParticipantHi all,
I took some snaps also, check them out.
http://www.neatdesign.ie then go to the news blog [bottom right].
We are trying to keep our news section up to date with the latest info so if something is going on you think we should know about just email us.
Cheers
neatdesign.September 3, 2008 at 11:31 am #712687gunter
ParticipantI take it nobody’s putting their head above the parapet on this one!
September 3, 2008 at 11:48 am #712688Devin
ParticipantI heard the brick one won. Very Kahn-as-repopularised-by-a-certain-Dublin-office.
September 3, 2008 at 12:07 pm #712689GrahamH
ParticipantAnd extremely interesting. However please do not say it is also intended to incorporate a ‘rebuilt’ parapet as pictured above? And when was this decision made? Who made it? Has the decision been released?
I always thought this was going to be a case of a toss-up between a conservative-with-a-twist brick scheme and a thoroughly abstract but uber-refined and respectful ‘incident’. As such both the mesh and glow-in-the-dark ones both have immense appeal, but suffice to say the stark and stoical, respectful yet individual, grim and foreboding brick number does it for me, What swings it is that it has a tenement quality reflective of the street’s history and current character, and that if built, will be sustained long after the thoroughfare (if ever) becomes a smug tuckpointed enclave of charcoal and lavender doorcases.
There are reservations however that the focal Kahn elevation is an overdressed elevation for a minor side street, and is being used for the sake of it being an architectural competition and elevating the scheme beyond that of plain reproduction. Still, very beautiful, and the vaguely gothic/gothick character singing the tune of the 1740s.
September 3, 2008 at 12:28 pm #712690Anonymous
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Are the window opes to Henrietta actually to be blanked ? would simple clear glazing cause such offence ? I really think the elevation to Henrietta Place has too much going on.
I’m leaning more towards the mesh, though don’t like the change of line as it meets the ground on the side elevation.
September 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm #712691gunter
Participant@GrahamH wrote:
. . . the stark and stoical, respectful yet individual, grim and foreboding brick number does it for me, . . . it has a tenement quality . . . that if built, will be sustained long after the thoroughfare (if ever) becomes a smug tuckpointed enclave of charcoal and lavender doorcases.
You are a seriously dark individual!
September 3, 2008 at 1:44 pm #712692hutton
ParticipantThe brick one works for me. Agree with gunter that the concrete one is “off the wall completely” – what an abomination – who were the culprits responsible for that croc gunter?
I like the detailing on the side wall of the brick proposal – normally such an elaborate treatment for a side lane would be OTT, yet in this instance given Henrietta Streets significance I think it’s quite appropriate.
One thing that baffles me though is, what’s this about a concrete Jersey barrier separating the lightwell from the pavement? :confused: …Is that being chipped in free-of-charge from the NRA who haven’t used it on a motorway? Railings please, and contextually appropriate detailing…
September 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm #712693ctesiphon
ParticipantBefore I knew which one was the winner, the brick one got my vote. I do think the ‘side’ is over-detailed, but I like the blind ‘front’. Also, as noted by the Assessors, the use of this building was thought about, unlike many of the others which proposed ‘museum’ or ‘gallery’ etc. (I’d read their comments, but didn’t know to which building they referred.)
This competition also highlights yet again how inappropriate and insensitive the corner building on Bolton Street is.
gunter- neatdesign’s blog seems to suggest that the exhibition is only on until Friday. I presume that means until close of business on Friday, unlike a certain other architectural exhibition discussed on here recently.
Graham- what do you mean about the parapet rebuilding? Not sure I follow you. Ta.
September 3, 2008 at 2:07 pm #712694ctesiphon
ParticipantAlso, in case you haven’t seen this:
Ryan W. Kennihan Architects wins Henrietta Street Ideas Competition
Archiseek.com
The commission of an Open Ideas Architectural Design Competition to
address the site of No. 16 Henrietta Street was enshrined as a policy
in the Henrietta Street Conservation Plan, (2006). The competition was
organised by the Royal Institutes of Architects of Ireland (RIAI). The
competition aimed to establish a design framework for the development
of the site, which is informed by the Conservation Plan and best
architectural practice, and to generate debate and discussion on the
challenge of contemporary design as in-fill in sensitive historic
settings. Design approaches were open to each entrant and could
include designs sympathetic to the context and setting without being
archaeologically correct or historically precise, and which is not
pastiche; and infill design that contrasts strongly with the
architectural language, setting and context of Henrietta Street.September 3, 2008 at 2:28 pm #712695GrahamH
ParticipantAh thanks for that link. All questions answered.
From the image it would appear it is intended to built the parapet in a different brick, matching that of the rebuilt 19th century parapet of the adjoining house. Surely the correct thing to do is to rebuilt both parapets in appropriate brick.
Agreed with hutton – the bunker ground floor is not pretty.
@gunter wrote:
You are a seriously dark individual!
You’re not the first to say that, alas.
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