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  • #712676
    LOB
    Participant

    There are actually two for sale (3 & 14)
    I doubt if The Kings Inns would need that much room & whether they would be appropriate for their uses.

    #712677
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    No 15 has the builders in at the moment. A new roof is going on, the galvanised temp onw has been removed and there was a delivery of steel girders during the last few weeks. Also sounds of building work from within.

    Just from living beside them, some of the houses are in a dreadful state. Ian Lumley of An Taisce, his looks desperate from outside, must be rotting inside.

    Archeire Henrietta Street

    #712678
    GregF
    Participant

    I thought this street was designated a National Heritage Site………Jesus are they waiting for the buildings to fall down before they do anything….It’s gas the two faceness of the clicque….they spend millions excavating fields and bogs wanting to put up tourist centres yet they let our already built environment fall down about us……the thick C***ts..will they ever cop on. I think it is a part of that anti Dub thing……..which led to the brutal destruction of Ireland’s capital city in the first place.

    #712679
    James
    Participant

    Actually

    Lumleys House No 12 is in prettty good state of repair he’s beenworking onit for the last twenty years so no surprises there.

    Caseys, no 13 is in very good nick and 4 (Hanrattys) ispristine internally, don’t be deceived by dirty brickwork.

    Ask for a tour.

    #712680
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    No4 is pristine? Funny I got that impression from it, must be the well painted front door, thats normally the last thing to be done.

    #712681
    notjim
    Participant

    Now is your chance: #7 Henrietta St on sale for 1.85 MEur! Let’s all chip in.

    http://www.myhome.ie/residential/search/brochure/7-henrietta-street-north-city-centre-dublin-co&-city/CAKTS349261

    #712682
    reddy
    Participant

    The results of the competition for no.16 Henrietta St are due to go on public display in the next couple of weeks. In the City Council Offices I think. Should be interesting to see the various responses. They received around eighty entries. I presume a winner will be announced before the exhibition.

    #712683
    newgrange
    Participant

    Slightly OT, but would anyone have a picture of the original 16 Henrietta Street? Saw it being requested on another forum.

    #712684
    missarchi
    Participant

    half of the entry’s are already on display at DCC the carpark one is a classic…
    be good if Hackett’s print properly;)

    #712685
    gunter
    Participant

    Had some business in the Planning office today and I got off a few snaps of the Henrietta Street Competition exhibition while I was there.

    Even from a two minute inspection, it was clear that the entries could be broken down into a few distinct categories.

    For convenience, I’ve listed them: Glass, Brick, Mesh and Concrete.

    Here’s one example of each:


    Glass


    Brick


    mesh


    Concrete.

    That last one is off the wall completely. The exhibition seemed to be well worth a look. As usual though, there was no information about how long the exhibition was to be up for and no external banners or anything to entice the public in.

    York Street and Henrietta Street are two threads of a very interesting potential debate that unfortunately isn’t actually happening.

    #712686
    neatdesign
    Participant

    Hi all,

    I took some snaps also, check them out.

    http://www.neatdesign.ie then go to the news blog [bottom right].

    We are trying to keep our news section up to date with the latest info so if something is going on you think we should know about just email us.

    Cheers
    neatdesign.

    #712687
    gunter
    Participant

    I take it nobody’s putting their head above the parapet on this one!

    #712688
    Devin
    Participant

    I heard the brick one won. Very Kahn-as-repopularised-by-a-certain-Dublin-office.

    #712689
    GrahamH
    Participant

    And extremely interesting. However please do not say it is also intended to incorporate a ‘rebuilt’ parapet as pictured above? And when was this decision made? Who made it? Has the decision been released?

    I always thought this was going to be a case of a toss-up between a conservative-with-a-twist brick scheme and a thoroughly abstract but uber-refined and respectful ‘incident’. As such both the mesh and glow-in-the-dark ones both have immense appeal, but suffice to say the stark and stoical, respectful yet individual, grim and foreboding brick number does it for me, What swings it is that it has a tenement quality reflective of the street’s history and current character, and that if built, will be sustained long after the thoroughfare (if ever) becomes a smug tuckpointed enclave of charcoal and lavender doorcases.

    There are reservations however that the focal Kahn elevation is an overdressed elevation for a minor side street, and is being used for the sake of it being an architectural competition and elevating the scheme beyond that of plain reproduction. Still, very beautiful, and the vaguely gothic/gothick character singing the tune of the 1740s.

    #712690
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Are the window opes to Henrietta actually to be blanked ? would simple clear glazing cause such offence ? I really think the elevation to Henrietta Place has too much going on.

    I’m leaning more towards the mesh, though don’t like the change of line as it meets the ground on the side elevation.

    #712691
    gunter
    Participant

    @GrahamH wrote:

    . . . the stark and stoical, respectful yet individual, grim and foreboding brick number does it for me, . . . it has a tenement quality . . . that if built, will be sustained long after the thoroughfare (if ever) becomes a smug tuckpointed enclave of charcoal and lavender doorcases.

    You are a seriously dark individual!

    #712692
    hutton
    Participant

    The brick one works for me. Agree with gunter that the concrete one is “off the wall completely” – what an abomination – who were the culprits responsible for that croc gunter?

    I like the detailing on the side wall of the brick proposal – normally such an elaborate treatment for a side lane would be OTT, yet in this instance given Henrietta Streets significance I think it’s quite appropriate.

    One thing that baffles me though is, what’s this about a concrete Jersey barrier separating the lightwell from the pavement? :confused: …Is that being chipped in free-of-charge from the NRA who haven’t used it on a motorway? Railings please, and contextually appropriate detailing…

    #712693
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    Before I knew which one was the winner, the brick one got my vote. I do think the ‘side’ is over-detailed, but I like the blind ‘front’. Also, as noted by the Assessors, the use of this building was thought about, unlike many of the others which proposed ‘museum’ or ‘gallery’ etc. (I’d read their comments, but didn’t know to which building they referred.)

    This competition also highlights yet again how inappropriate and insensitive the corner building on Bolton Street is.

    gunter- neatdesign’s blog seems to suggest that the exhibition is only on until Friday. I presume that means until close of business on Friday, unlike a certain other architectural exhibition discussed on here recently.

    Graham- what do you mean about the parapet rebuilding? Not sure I follow you. Ta.

    #712694
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    Also, in case you haven’t seen this:

    Ryan W. Kennihan Architects wins Henrietta Street Ideas Competition

    Archiseek.com

    The commission of an Open Ideas Architectural Design Competition to
    address the site of No. 16 Henrietta Street was enshrined as a policy
    in the Henrietta Street Conservation Plan, (2006). The competition was
    organised by the Royal Institutes of Architects of Ireland (RIAI). The
    competition aimed to establish a design framework for the development
    of the site, which is informed by the Conservation Plan and best
    architectural practice, and to generate debate and discussion on the
    challenge of contemporary design as in-fill in sensitive historic
    settings. Design approaches were open to each entrant and could
    include designs sympathetic to the context and setting without being
    archaeologically correct or historically precise, and which is not
    pastiche; and infill design that contrasts strongly with the
    architectural language, setting and context of Henrietta Street.

    http://ireland.archiseek.com/news/2008/000236.html

    #712695
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Ah thanks for that link. All questions answered.

    From the image it would appear it is intended to built the parapet in a different brick, matching that of the rebuilt 19th century parapet of the adjoining house. Surely the correct thing to do is to rebuilt both parapets in appropriate brick.

    Agreed with hutton – the bunker ground floor is not pretty.

    @gunter wrote:

    You are a seriously dark individual!

    You’re not the first to say that, alas.

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