Grafton Street, Dublin
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- July 6, 2013 at 11:56 am #785039
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InactiveMaybe this is for the best. Grafton Street will never be what they want it to be, as it’s already just an average British high street and there’s no will to change it. They should just pick another street nearby and design it from scratch.
July 10, 2013 at 12:07 am #785040Anonymous
InactiveNew granite revealed


July 10, 2013 at 9:29 pm #785041Anonymous
InactiveIts progressing. Maybe faster than thought? It surely wont take 18mths?
July 11, 2013 at 11:04 am #785042Anonymous
InactiveAs mentioned on page 11 by Peter Fitz and GrahamH, and perhaps others, where is the granite from?
July 11, 2013 at 1:11 pm #785043Anonymous
InactiveDid I hear somewhere that the stone is sources from Leinster and Portugal
July 11, 2013 at 2:36 pm #785044Anonymous
InactiveThe central granite is Portugese, while the side flanks will be Leinster granite. Given the (current) limited capacity of stone cutting in the quarry here, I imagine the Leinster granite is being stockpiled until a sufficient quantity can be delivered to site to execute the sides.
I believe the pink granite for the junctions will be from Cork or Kerry.
July 11, 2013 at 3:30 pm #785045Anonymous
InactiveActually I would say its all to do with phasing. Create the central walkway first and then you can work on the sides thereby limiting the disturbance to businesses and pedestrians.
July 11, 2013 at 11:24 pm #785046Anonymous
InactiveHad a walk on it today – it’s very uneven, feels slightly temporary, but could be due to the quality of the granite – maybe it’s supposed to be worn down naturally? It certainly doesn’t have the shiny, machine cut feel of the Henry St paving. I think I sort of like it.
July 21, 2013 at 7:48 pm #785047Anonymous
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“Stains are more noticeable because of the recent very dry weather and the lack of rainfall, which in normal circumstances would wash away much of the staining.” – DCC
July 21, 2013 at 9:00 pm #785048Anonymous
InactiveI have been beaten to it by The Journal.ie
I was just thinking to myself that the newly completed section look dreadful. Its filthy. Of course its not being cleaned, but I wonder will this surface work with the amount of use it will get. Combine the rough texture of the stone with its colour and I think we might have a problem here Houston.
One of the benefits of the Lenister granite, to be used elsewhere, is its colour. It masked many stains.
September 1, 2013 at 10:23 pm #785049September 2, 2013 at 11:00 am #785050Anonymous
InactiveOh dear, what the fuck is that?
September 2, 2013 at 1:29 pm #785051Anonymous
InactiveThat is a Hartecast product. They supply the bins that are loved so much on this forum. His products are all terribly designed. Very frustrating as it’s an Irish company and their products are all over the country. Pity they can’t get a decent designer to design their products
September 2, 2013 at 1:38 pm #785052Anonymous
InactiveIts got a little 3 castles logo on the top which will ensure that it reinforces the distinctive sense of place of Grafton Street.
Its nice to see yet another variation on the bollard on our city’s streets, isn’t it?
September 2, 2013 at 2:27 pm #785053Anonymous
InactiveAbsolutely hideous. Have a look at hartecast dot com to see the rest of their grotesque designs. There’s even a testimonial from DCC.
“It says a lot for the quality and durability of your product that the bin itself was still in perfect working order after it had been badly knocked over by a truck, we removed the concrete from the base of the bin and it was used again!”
:sick:
September 2, 2013 at 5:02 pm #785054Anonymous
InactiveWTF???
September 2, 2013 at 5:50 pm #785055Anonymous
InactiveClearly the design is a contemporary take on Finn McCool’s cudgel.
If they unscrew, which I imagine they must, we may get to see how they perform in action, when the pubs close.
September 2, 2013 at 5:54 pm #785056Anonymous
InactiveWarning, don’t look at hartecast website or you’ll wish you were blind. memories are coming back of brochures for italian street furniture and kiosks, full of beauty, style, nobility, pride. Hartecast website is a catalogue of banal nightmares, that are a physical reality.
September 2, 2013 at 7:51 pm #785057Anonymous
InactiveGood lord…well where to start.
Firstly the blurb from Hartecaste’s own website:
Following the success of our Ductile Iron Litter Bin range the new Base Ball Bat Bollard range is of the same strength and is a great addition to our already popular range. It is a seriously heavy duty bollard which is available with contrasting colour strip for higher visibility. – See more at: http://www.hartecast.com/hc2100-base-ball-bat-bollard/#sthash.43jTCM40.dpuf
So there you have…gunter was not far off the mark.
At the time of the Part VIII application, a number of people, myself included took the time to comment on the Council’s plans. The design of street furniture was left deliberately vague but the Part VIII application documentation did includes such standards phrases as…
It is proposed that the street furniture be well-designed and elegant, and both reflect and express the unique character of Grafton Street.
A planning authority of course never really needs to justify its proposals under Part VIII. In my experience the public is usually ignored …unless they are in wheelchairs or run a charity shop or some other such trait that the media are likely to attach themselves to. Crap design is not something even the Irish Times can engage with.
So it was in this instance. The few calls that were made to retain the existing lamps etc were roundly ignored. ‘Contemporary’ rules the day. But this is not the contemporary of Beth Gali, its rather Bollards ‘R’ Us.
I got a recent reply via Twitter that the old lamps were being reclaimed by the Public Lighting Dept (bastion of style elegance and conservation that it is) for use elsewhere in the city.
I suppose its a fair point to say that the city is not a museum piece and that it should not be a simple case of old vs new, olde worlde vs cool Hibernia. But in this instance is very much lowest common denominator stuff. Given that city architect Killian Skay (oops dont mention their names) spent about 2 years on the design of this street…something more than a browse through the Hartecaste catalogue would have been expected.
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