Grafton Street, Dublin
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- July 8, 2011 at 9:29 pm #784959
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InactiveUltimately, get rid of the car parks.
In the mean time, pedestrianise Exchequer/Wicklow/Clarendon Street, and slowly we can flush out the cockroaches (car park owners) to streets outside the Grafton area.

Remove these bollards and give the entire street the granite treatment. Cars wanting to park in the outdated car parks will feel intimidated by the amount of pedestrians and eventually will avoid the area. (Well, we can dream)
Why are there loading bays here? Get rid of them, and get rid of the bollards and other crap.
Wicklow Street – what a waste. This road is here to serve BT’s car park. Pedestrianise it and force drivers to mingle slowly with the pedestrians.DCC need to grow a spine and stick it to these car parks. Move them out of the Grafton area and rezone. Easier said than done, I know, but we have to start somewhere.
November 22, 2011 at 3:11 pm #784960Anonymous
InactiveThe job on the old West’s premises seems to be nearing completion, for what it’s worth.

a Graham ‘before’ pic from the ‘shopfronts’ thread
today with the scaffolding downTheir shield of green mesh was so dense that it was almost impossible to glimpse the works, but if you peered in with a zoom lens you could just about see that they had knocked off all the render and exposed the original red brickwork, which appeared to be in pretty good condition. . . . [I’d wager that Graham has got exactly that; good zoom images of the brickwork]

the Grafton Street front with the original brick finish exposed behind the scaffolding mesh
the Anne Street frontage again with the original brick finish peeping through the protective meshWhatever about not making any effort to reinstate the two chimney stacks on the Anne Street facade, which remain the stumps that they’ve been for years, I don’t understand the concept of re-rendering the building after all the old render had been so painstakingly removed.
This was built as a brick building, surely the render lessen its quality as a piece of streetscape, and surely it lessens its interest as one of the few remaining 18th century houses on the street. With its anonymous ‘period’ windows and painted facades, I think this is a missed opportunity . . . . and that’s before we even begin to look at the shopfront.
November 22, 2011 at 5:52 pm #784961Anonymous
InactiveI agree gunter. Its incredible how anonymous the building now looks on the street…you’d hardly know its there. I’d wager though that by exposing and repointing the brick the building would have looked brilliant. A real missed opportunity, but not for the want of people telling the owner and city authorities.
November 22, 2011 at 8:12 pm #784962Anonymous
InactiveThe finished product is rubbish – a plastic, Disneyland, anywhere piece of ignorantly detailed crud that lowers the tone of Grafton Street as much as any parade of mobile phone shops. And that’s before the provincial heritage Monaghan shopfront c. 1994, currently in the making, is unveiled.
Every conceivable effort was made with all stakeholders, including the Department of Environment, to make sure what has happened did not happen to this elegant vernacular Dublin street building. But it did.
One can’t point fingers as to who is responsible for this travesty of a planning scenario, which raises considerable legal questions about the validity of the very foundation of Architectural Conservation Area legislation, but as ever in Dublin, the answer is so obvious, one need not even make the effort.
What has happened here, on the capital’s ‘premier’ street, is quite simply outrageous.
December 1, 2011 at 11:27 pm #784963Anonymous
InactiveThe lost opportunity for Grafton Street of a correctly restored former West jewellers is heart-breaking. The ignorance of even the basic design of the city’s historic building stock, never mind its nuances, amongst property owners, occupiers and the planning authority, reaches nauseating proportions when a flagship building on Grafton Street can be treated in the manner that it has.
Simply put, this hideously ignorant, expressionless lumpen mass…

…could and should be this. A beautiful brick building with all the texture and mellowed sophistication of a two hundred year old handcrafted facade.


As elegantly presented by Marks & Spencer further down the street. Indeed, the former West building would be even more elegant, with red brick elevations, fine wigged pointing, window reveals with subtle whispers of lime-feathered reveals, the potential for delicate tracery of late Georgian sashes, and a handsome shopfront with low, charming proportions. What we now have is a travesty in the context of the street’s Architectural Conservation Area designation, its prestige as the foremost shopping street of the city, and considering the amount of money spent for such spectacularly poor effect.
As gunter mentioned, beautiful brickwork of c. 1800 with fine jointing was presented in virtually immaculate condition when the render was comprehensively stripped off the building during the summer. The planning drawings only specified ‘repair/replacement where necessary’.

The brick had previously been painted, hence its good condition under the render.

Once the quality of the brickwork was exposed, every conceivable effort was made by third parties to ensure its repair and exposure under ACA legislation, but every stroke fell on deaf ears. Simply put, when the planning and development section of the planning authority is not interested, statutory legislation is ignored.
Likewise, pre-emptive warnings that all the historic windows in the building were going to be dumped, based on onserved precedent elsewhere, were also ignored. Therefore twelve historic sash windows, on Grafton Street, in 2011, were thrown in a skip. This is the level we’re functioning at in Dublin.
The former elegant sashes.

The new Disney sashes, which in no way accord with the original design, with double-glazed units, chunky timber members, inappropriate generic Victorian horns, and no less than plastic parting beads.

Again, a reminder, Grafton Street, in 2011.
December 1, 2011 at 11:28 pm #784964Anonymous
InactiveThe original long, elegant proportions of the first floor window opes were also revealed in the course of works. This was probably visible inside prior to any works being undertaken. But again, ignored in favour of a tall and cumbersome new shopfront.

Let’s not forget the painted granite window sills.

Or the 1960s-revival slab reveals.

Or the refined resolution of the quoins.

The seamlessly subtle, unpainted joint with the adjacent brick facade.

It should also be noted that, because the building was not a Protected Structure (it should have been), the entire structure was (legitimately) gutted in a matter of weeks. Nothing was left standing only the four walls tottering on steel beams and a corner column. The 1960s shopfront was also partially removed before planning permission was even granted for the external works. Again, the planning authority had no interest in pursuing anything. To stand on the street back in June, hearing the innards of the building collapsing down with multiple blows, floor by floor, through an unauthorised removed shopfront, while a planning permission in an ACA was being prepared with zero conservation input, was simply galling. And even more so when it was being carried out for a Dublin business that prides itself on its tradition and long-standing trading since 1916. Where has the merchant pride gone in Dublin? One truly despairs.
The sole meagre consolation from the whole ordeal is that the building is worth substantially less than had the job been done properly.

West RIP
March 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm #784965Anonymous
InactiveThe completed shop opened yesterday…
March 2, 2012 at 1:44 am #784966Anonymous
Inactiveyou sound impressed
March 2, 2012 at 11:50 am #784967Anonymous
InactiveWell…its a smart frontage but I cant help being disheartened about treatment of the upper levels and the inevitable gutting that took place inside. I wasn’t a great fan of the old West’s front. If you are heading down to view it take a look at the urban crime that is the vista down South Anne Street towards the Church. Unbelievable. How do we move on from this? How do we progress in this city? I’m stumped if I know..
March 2, 2012 at 9:15 pm #784968Anonymous
InactiveMeanwhile, down the street Boots went from this:

To this:

And I felt sick.
March 3, 2012 at 12:48 am #784969Anonymous
InactiveJez Louise, one can only imagine how you’ll feel when you see the plastic muck going up on the former Richard Allan store today. A hip new pop-up sports store don’t you know. Take one stone clad frontage, apply glue, apply plastic and they will come.
The irony of DCC Architects touting their designs for this new upmarket Grafton Street Quarter while DCC planners stand by as it rots and a business community runs riot is shocking to see.
March 3, 2012 at 7:35 pm #784970Anonymous
InactiveAul Mr Brereton’s on Grafton Street…

March 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm #784971Anonymous
InactiveNew plastic muck on the former Richard Allan store, further south along the street. No planning permission for this of course.

There is a permission in place to revamp and refurbish the store which extends out to South King Street.
March 3, 2012 at 8:05 pm #784972Anonymous
InactiveWhere do you start with the continuing proliferation of plastic on the street. The decline of Grafton Street over the past 24 months has been stark. It must be said that use has held up…there are very few vacant units on the street. However a development free-for-all seems to have taken hold, all the more marked when one considers the major DCC plans for the area as an upmarket shopping street (Grafton Quarter) and of course the now ignored ACA and Special Planning Control Scheme.
Leaving aside the poor quality paving and lighting, which everyone would agree requires updating, the street’s quality is greatly diminished by the sheer amount of signage and clutter being added to buildings, from plastic fascias, to projecting signs, to banners and flags. Secondary street’s such as South Anne Street and Duke Street fair just as badly, if not worse…




March 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm #784973Anonymous
InactiveYou’d be tripping over these guys as well…must have counted 20+ sandwich boards and finger signs
March 4, 2012 at 11:24 pm #784974Anonymous
InactiveGrafton Street is now such a kip that I refuse to walk it anymore. It is baffling how a prestigious street, initially brought down with lower order uses such as mobile phone chains and the loss of specialist shops – and long acknowledged as such by everyone, even including the moronic Irish media – is now entering complete freefall in how the place is presented and the quality of the uses pervading. Once one passes the manicured, if somewhat plasticised, elevations of Brown Thomas, the street presents all the qualities of the main drag of a third rate London suburb – ten years ago.
Is it any wonder major international retailers will not touch Grafton Street with a bargepole. Certainly, if I saw potential in the Irish market for my brand, I would be over to grand and elegant Henry Street in a flash. Or imperious and spacious O’Connell Street, or parts of Dawson Street at a push. Grotty, grubby, garish Grafton Street is now a badge of destruction – not distinction – for any quality retailer and is to be avoided at all costs. The non-existent planning enforcement is shocking, but equally, these myriad crude interventions reflect the mediocre business culture on the street, where many owners and occupiers want investment from DCC handed to them on a plate when they don’t even know their own brand or the type of quality environment their customers want. The amount of plastic windows, signage, awful shopfronts, banners, postering, finger signs and speaker music all indicate an absentee landlordisim – much of it pension fund generated – and a business class of occupiers that just don’t recognise the urban quality of what they could have.
But yes, the lack of proactive implemention of any planning tools at DCC’s disposal is the greatest problem on our hands. Their carelessness and mismanagement of this thoroughfare is really quite shocking and at this stage they should be held to account by the Department of Environment. Likewise, the implementation of their own policies – as with the protection of shopfronts such as Boots, highlighted by Service charge above. The painting of this, one of the last polished timber shopfronts in Dublin, containing a number of historic elements, was granted late last year.

Giving us this delight from Bromley high street.

Elegant reticence of an old lady…

…transformed into utter mediocrity, on a Protected Structure, in an ACA on the city’s ‘premier’ street.

At least the polished granite plinth still survives.

Also the glazing bars before they were painted.

The delightful timber signage with gold lettering has now been replaced with plastic. DCC quality control alive and well as ever.


In honesty, I’d sooner see a million quid spent on some decent large concrete slab paving for the street and the other seven million plus for the bells and whistles regeneration be redirected into a fund to clean up the street’s buildings. It ain’t gonna happen otherwise.
March 5, 2012 at 1:48 am #784975Paul Clerkin
KeymasterWhat date does that shopfront hail from? Just out of interest.
March 5, 2012 at 11:22 am #784976Anonymous
InactiveYes Paul, a question that’s often pondered about. It’s an interesting amalgam of what appears to be an Edwardian shopfront layered over with pretty convincing 1980s elements – though I’m sure others will have a clearer recollection of when the more recent layers were added. The shimmering imitation vitrolite is not without its charms – I imagine it was installed at the same time. The rather floating nature of the pilasters strongly suggests there may be original fabric behind. I’ve picked and poked at the sides to no avail, but there does seem to be something lurking in there.
What is particularly unique about this building is how the ground floor actually protrudes right out into the street, taking advantage of the kink in the building line. It’s a delightful feature, reminicent of Georgian and Victorian retailing modifications to older townhouses – of which there are now so few examples left in the city.
March 5, 2012 at 10:43 pm #784977Anonymous
InactiveFrom RTE:
A €4m upgrade of Dublin’s Grafton Street is planned to start early next year.
City councillors agreed this evening to begin the process for tenders to be ready for September.
This evening’s monthly meeting heard that the current paving for the pedestrianised street was laid in the 1980s and now has to be repaired daily.
A report presented to councillors states that the new paving would be the same grey granite that is in Henry Street.
There would also be a dark grey way finding path along one side with sections in pink to highlight intersections and points of interest.
The work would take about a year to complete and be phased so disruption is minimised.
A special information meeting for councillors will be held within two weeks.March 6, 2012 at 1:02 am #784978Anonymous
InactiveThe new paving should be “calm and understated in nature” the council says. The background colour will be a mid-grey with a “way-finding path” of dark grey stone off the central roadway on one side to provide an obstruction-free route along the street.
Street junctions will be marked along the street with a light pink granite square set into a darker orange apron. Entrances to small side streets are marked with cyan granite threshold paving and the shopfronts will be edged with a margin of pink granite setts.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0306/1224312850751.html
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