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  • #790605
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    i like the fact that she’s dismissing a statement from an artist about an art piece with a statement about an art piece from an artist.

    “member of”, not “representative of”. one hopes.

    #790606
    Anonymous
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    I will personally be submitting a formal objection to this.

    Paul, any chance of a poll?

    #790607
    admin
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    This article appeared in last weeks Southside People.
    Major sculpture planned for Docklands
    THE artist Antony Gormley has released an artist’s impression of a proposed major public artwork for Dublin Docklands.
    The planned work is an open structure of a human form that will be situated at the River Liffey, close to Sean O’Casey Bridge.
    The Dublin Docklands Development Authority (DDDA) commissioned the work and at up to 48 metres high, it will be constructed from an open latticework of steel covered with black bitumen.
    Its open weave design will allow light to permeate through and allow visibility in all directions.
    The artist described it as being “like a charcoal drawing against the sky, changing as your position changes in relation to it”.
    The sculpture will appear different depending on where it is viewed from within the city and the light levels at different times of the day and in different seasons.
    Paul Maloney, Chief Executive DDDA, said that the announcement comes at an important time for the Docklands.
    “The delivery of the Docklands Arts Strategy is now well on its way with the appointment of Antony Gormley for this sculptural commission, closely following the commencement on site of the new Grand Canal Theatre and the commitment of a site for our national theatre, the Abbey at George’s Dock,” said Mr Maloney.
    * The DDDA intends to lodge a planning application for the work before the end of the year.
    Subject to planning permission, construction is likely to start during 2008 and, once on site, the work will take approximately ten months to build and will cost in the region of E1.6 million.
    It’s expected that the name of the artwork will evolve during the design and construction of the sculpture.
    Anyone who wishes to submit a name for consideration can do so through the Docklands website at http://www.dublindocklands.ie or by contacting the Docklands Authority office, 52-55 Sir John Rogerson’s Quay, Dublin 2.

    Those wishing to cast/vew votes can also go here http://www.polldaddy.com/p.asp?p=98339

    #790608
    Anonymous
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    Thats it? My god that is depressing looking. 🙁 I expected the sculpture to be hopeful looking at least.
    For something that size it should be placed in the middle of Dublin Bay & not on the liffey

    P.S.
    Is it me or does it look like its about to take a pee. :rolleyes:

    #790609
    Anonymous
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    No apparently he’s about to start Irish dancing according to the Shinners

    #790610
    Anonymous
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    Paul Clerkin wrote:
    PLAN FOR GIANT LIFFEY SCULPTURE

    Madam, – I refer to the report in your issue of August 23rd on the proposal to erect a work by the sculptor Antony Gormley in the Dublin Docklands.

    Your illustration suggests that this structure is to be actually stuck in the river Liffey, and that it is to be approximately 50 metres high – taller than the Custom House. Why is our beloved river Liffey being subjected to a relentless onslaught in an apparent attempt to clutter it up with as many “things” as possible?

    We have a proliferation of new bridges. We have the boardwalk which serves to further clutter the river space and is ill-conceived and out of sympathy with the other architectural elements of the river such as the walls and bridges. I understand that the river is also threatened with some sort of overhead transport arrangement in the not too distant future – which would be needless and visually disastrous. And now the Gormley piece.

    I find it impossible to discover who exactly makes decisions on such as the foregoing]

    Ha ha

    Go on Alice!

    (I used to attend the College of Marketing & Design where Alice Hanratty thought Etching/Printing.)

    #790611
    Anonymous
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    I think I know who she is, she does pictures of hair is that right?

    #790612
    Anonymous
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    #790613
    Anonymous
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    @notjim wrote:

    I think I know who she is, she does pictures of hair is that right?

    Afaik, that’s Alice Maher you’re thinking of.

    #790614
    Anonymous
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    Afaik, that’s Alice Maher you’re thinking of.

    Of course, thanks.

    #790615
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    @JoePublic wrote:

    Sorry but this thread is a pile of nonsense. Just typical Irish begrudgery and oh-so-boring Irish negativity against…. everything.

    For a more daring choice of artist, what on earth is wrong with a world renowned scuptor? The belittling of international ‘starchitects’ on this board strikes me as little more than sore grapes. What should the DDDA constantly be faulted for their new-found ambition?

    If I was in the DDDA I’d be close to throwing in the towel – let’s just cut and paste some more boring 6-storey square boxes by Irish architects into the remainder of the docklands and be done with the bloody thing. Take the safe easy approach, like the say in the computing industry ‘no one ever got fired for hiring IBM’

    I think the Gormley sculpture looks marvellous by the way :D. It will, like the spire, be controversial but ultimately accepted as an icon for Dublin. I suspect there are many lurkers on this boards who secretly like it too… Hopefully the project won’t be sabotaged by this board and elsewhere.

    I dont believe this is typical irish begrudgery, well at least not from me
    I couldnt care less if this is simply an attempt by the DDA to inject something ‘exciting’ or whatever into the docklands
    I simply think this thing looks ridiculous

    What is it trying to say?
    A transparent man looking away sheepishly?

    I like the idea of putting it in the river,
    but why not have a sculpture that stands there proud and strong?
    At least turn his bloody head looking upwards!!
    Instead of shy and embarrased, with his hands by his side
    Something we can look at and brighten our (dull and overcast) day

    I love the spike, at least it symbolises something more(for me at least) it reaches skyward standing tall

    #790616
    Paul Clerkin
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    #790617
    Anonymous
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    rte just ran a short story on the sculpture- no new renders but they ‘l probably show it again at 9. Just out of interest am I right in saying this is more tham likely going to get approval…?

    #790618
    Anonymous
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    Ah maybe give the sculpture a chance,…..the only problem I believe is that it is too big. Hard to judge it by just the one photo. It will probably even overshadow the stunted bland buildings. (If thats the case something is kinda wrong with the overall planning of the area.) But definitely it’s the most interesting thing that has happened in the new emerging docklands so far. It certainly has the tongues wagging about it, which nothing built down the docks so far has done . Sure it can always be removed just like the dear old Anna Livia fountain that graced the big traffic island on O’Connell Street, and like many a fine historical building that was needlessly demolished over the years. Dublin is not the same today as the ‘dear auld dirty Dublin’ of times past and is constantly changing as the perpetual crank Kevin Myers said this week in his Indo column (regarding the Dunne Tower).

    #790619
    Anonymous
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    I greatly appreciated that letter from Ms Hanratty.

    My initial thought on reading the Irish Times article about the sculpture, here

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2007/0823/1187332383005.html

    was that the following…

    @The Irish Times wrote:

    He hasn’t set out to make a docklands angel and he is wary about using the word monument in relation to his monumentally scaled work. It is vital, he says, that the Docklands structure is an open one, so that “the human body is seen in relation to the social body, as a matrix of connectivity in collective space”.

    …was complete mumbo-jumbo.

    I am delighted that she agrees.

    But she doesn’t comment on the DDDA getting in on the mumbo-jumbo act…

    @The Irish Times wrote:

    Pending planning permission, it will be sited on the seaward side of the Seán O’Casey Bridge, rising directly and dramatically out of the water where, says the DDDA, it will be “a signpost for the realignment of Dublin’s epicentre eastwards”.

    Has the city’s epicentre moved eastwards? There has certainly been a lot of development in the east, but has this moved the city’s epicentre? I wonder.

    #790620
    Anonymous
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    Well I think this is unfair: Anthony Gormely has a very strong artistic vision which informs all his work and while it is probably best expressed through the work itself, he does get asked about what he is trying to do and, since it is a complicated idea, one that he has already decided is best expressed through his sculpture, it is bound to challenge attempts to communicate it in pithy two-liners for websites. I don’t think you get the opportunity to cast large sculpture without first giving an explanation of what your sculpture is supposed to achieve.

    My understanding is that he is interested in thinking about the particularity of our conscious location of ourselves within our bodies.

    #790621
    Anonymous
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    that sculpture is definately ‘conscious of location within our bodies’….. thus the forlorn meek stance.

    if it is designed to challange and stand dramatic then maybe he should have chosen a more Mesomorphic physique to base it on, rather than his own Ectomorphic structure……

    #790622
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    @Irish Times quoting DDDA wrote:

    “a signpost for the realignment of Dublin’s epicentre eastwards”.

    I must say that I have found it difficult to make up my mind about the merits of this sculpture in and of itself, as I have simply been convinced that it is more about the DDDA attempting to make a statement than anything else. In this regard I worry as it seems what the sculpture actually is comes secondary to trying to develop a specific city image, and attract attention as being more than just another city business district. The above quote has cemented this in my mind.

    #790623
    Anonymous
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    Maybe the office core has moved eastwards but the ‘epicentre’???? Marketing bollocks springs to mind…

    #790624
    Anonymous
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    @Rory W wrote:

    Marketing bollocks

    From the DDDA? Surely not!

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