Future for Waterford
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Planned Waterford development shelved
RTE (Tuesday, 26 February 2008)
A multi-million euro development planned for Waterford city will not now be going ahead.
The planned development of the North Wharf was central to the rejuvenation of the city centre.
The Port of Waterford company has confirmed that the Cork based development company that had planned to invest €37m in the project has pulled out.
The project was due to involve hotels, marina developments, offices and apartments, and was expected to lead to other developments along what was once known as Europe’s finest quays.
Further development was also planned on the 13-acre site.
The Port of Waterford company has said it is in discussions with a number of other companies who may be interested in buying the 13-acre site.
It seems “Dockland Rejuvenation Projects†in Ireland require large amounts of patience! (Waterford, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Dublin).
@CologneMike wrote:
It seems “Dockland Rejuvenation Projects†in Ireland require large amounts of patience! (Waterford, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Dublin).
These projects require large amounts of CASH. When you heard of Waterford Glass talking about a 300million investment, did that not give you a clue as to reality of the project??? The bankers (of the Cork developer) probably got cold feet, if the developers hadn’t already got them. The bankers to the Glass are, like their shareholders, staring into a black hole for ages into which large amounts of cash have ben sucked and disappeared. A vanity project like this, in a construction downturn, outside their core business would get no support and freak the long-suffering investors I’ve nothing against the city of Waterford, but what size of local economy and population would be needed to support a development of this size? Does it have a realistic airport? Road infrastructure?There are empty hotels all over the country, do you need more of them to add to the barreacks on the hill? Sustainable development, not dreamtime in the outback…………
K@KerryBog2 wrote:
Sustainable development, not dreamtime in the outback…………
Dreamtime in the Outback?
RTE stated no reasons for the Cork developers’ withdrawal from acquiring the site. If the present the “credit crunch†is kicking in or if the Cork developers were distracted by the dockland possibilites in their own backyard is open to speculation.
Waterford’s geographical location in the south-east via it’s own ro-ro port facilities (Manufacturing) and via the Rosslare ferry harbour (Tourism) gives them a head start to get onto the M4 to London / Dover. They stand to win a share of the Tourist hotel trade from visitors entering / leaving this country by the Rosslare route and business by Cruisers visiting it’s port.
A decision to give Waterford a University will also give the city and the south-east an additional economic engine for it to grow. The NRA projects coming on stream / near completion around Waterford city and it’s regional airport (Michael O’Learys favourite type) will make the city also more accessable. The city can also enjoy a pivotal role to its neighbouring towns (Clonmel, Kilkenny city, Carlow, New Ross / Wexford) together growing critical mass for attracting development.
So I would not share your view of Waterford’s Dockland Rejuvenation as dreamtime in the outback but just simply ambitious for a maritime city on the doorstep to Britain / Continent.
I agree. What I would love to see is a regular frequent two way train service connecting Wexford-Waterford-Carrick-Clonmel, which could literally happen tomorrow if there was any will to do it.
Plans for Waterford skyscraper unveiled Irish Times
Plans were unveiled today for a skyscraper at the heart of a €380 million redevelopment of an old iron foundry in Waterford city.
The 32-storey building is the centrepiece of an ambitious riverside proposal by developer William Bolster which includes a hotel, restaurants, offices and apartments.
A planning application for the scheme for the brown-field former Waterford Stanley lands beside the River Suir at Bilberry are to be lodged with Waterford City Council within two weeks.
Mr Bolster, a local developer, said the planned 119-metre skyscraper — which would be twice the size of Dublin’s Liberty Hall — would include a ‘sky view’ area with unprecedented views of the city and surrounding counties.
“The taller iconic buildings are also a bold statement about Waterford’s ambitions and confidence as gateway to the southeast while it is a plus of our scheme that it will bring a disused former industrial site in to appropriate 21st Century life,†he said.
The developer said the project, called Water Haven, would create 400 building jobs during the construction phase and a similar number on its proposed completion date in 2014.
The skyscraper would include 22 floors of apartments above 10 floors of offices with a 20-metre high “roof feature†designed to echo the nearby cable stay bridge included in the Waterford City Bypass.
A 15-storey, 156-bedroom hotel, with underground parking and a large conference centre with a capacity of up to 500 delegates, is to be linked at the 10th floor to the taller office and apartment building, under the plans.
The scheme, which is subject to planning permission being granted, also envisages a leisure and fitness centre with gymnasium, spa and swimming pool and marinas with 80 berths. The residential component would include 395 apartments designed and sized to suit families, couples, sharers and sole occupants, according to Mr Bolster.
RTE video coverage
@KerryBog2 wrote:
……… A vanity project like this, in a construction downturn, outside their core business would get no support and freak the long-suffering investors I’ve nothing against the city of Waterford, but what size of local economy and population would be needed to support a development of this size? Does it have a realistic airport? Road infrastructure?There are empty hotels all over the country, do you need more of them to add to the barracks on the hill? Sustainable development, not dreamtime in the outback…………
KHad forgotten about this post. I still stand over it, although I would love to see Waterford develop. Since I posted the foregoing the Glass has gone with it begging bowl for a multi million bail-out from the Government and hopefully will be told where to go. The black hole in their pension fund is a disgrace.
Who, in this day and age, would buy a product that cannot be put in a dishwasher and has to be hand washed with care? A bit like architects insisting on wattle and daub.
KI think that high rise development looks fantastic.
Odd design. Kinda looks like it was just chopped off at the top. What’s that thing on top?
Any clearer pictures?
Who designed this development?
Butter? Mayonaise?
i like this. i saw it on the news yesterday too.
I think waterford need material and style overlays based of a georgian footprint otherwise the thing will look like crystal clear rubbish….
The development was designed by a local Waterford practice CJ Falconer & Associates.
Did anyone see this?
I think its pretty cool,and already under construction so at least it cant be stopped like every other decent looking development in Ireland.
The River Suir Bridge is a cable-stayed bridge over the River Suir under construction in the Republic of Ireland. It is being built as part of the N25 Waterford Bypass, and is expected to open to traffic in late 2009.
When complete, the 230 metre main span will be the longest span bridge in Ireland, stealing that title from the Boyne River Bridge on the Dublin to Belfast M1 motorway. The cable-stayed bridge with its 100 metre tall tower, will be a landmark structure for Waterford City and surrounding areas.
Tower:
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website: http://www.waterfordcity.ie/n25bypass/suirbridgegallery3.htm
Permission was granted for Water Haven on 22nd of December! INCLUDING the 33 floor tower. The plan incorporates a train station linking it with the city center and main line rail. This all in all I think is a pretty good plan……..
@EIA340600 wrote:
Permission was granted for Water Haven on 22nd of December! INCLUDING the 33 floor tower. The plan incorporates a train station linking it with the city center and main line rail. This all in all I think is a pretty good plan……..
Any links? Is this still going ahead despite the credit crunch? I find it unlikely that Waterford will be home to Ireland’s tallest building. Regarding the train station, Does this mean the beggining of commuter rail in the south east?
Believe it, it’ll be ireland’s tallest building. Thank god there won’t be any of this vulgar modernity in the capital! I wonder how long it’ll take Dubliners to change their minds once this starts going up.
Permission was given at the end of 2008 and it’s currently being appealed with An Bord Pleanala.
I was under the impression that the deal with developer fell through last year. I do hope it will go ahead but I have my doubts. If/when construction starts, I’ll believe it.
Its not a bad looking plan and would be a boon for Waterford but I can’t imagine this going ahead either. They’ve brave developers if it does. Also heavily dependent on Banks funding them too.
If they are refusing to build projects half as ambitious as this in Dublin, what are the chances they will build it in Waterford?
@rob mc wrote:
If they are refusing to build projects half as ambitious as this in Dublin, what are the chances they will build it in Waterford?
EXACTLY……almost everything stops with ABP!
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