ESB Headquarters Fitzwilliam Street
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maybe they go back to there roots one day…
@Andrew Duffy wrote:
See the old Gasometer on John Rogerson’s Quay looming in the background. Doesn’t pretty much every tall building now have to prove in planning that it won’t be visible in the same way?
Correct. It would have been one of the reasons that Treasury’s 35 storey try-on at the National Conference Centre would not have been on – it would have seriously impacted on the closure of this vista, being somewhat off-centre.
@tommyt wrote:
STW are moving into the pastiche market I hope:D.
LOL. I love it 😀
I tell you one thing, if their attempt is anything like the grunt ugly two floor top-up they proposed for the houses adjacent to the Shelbourne Hotel, well… 😉
@ESB spokeswoman wrote:
A final decision on the winning design will be made by the board of the ESB in the summer.
Still nothing yet, or have I missed something? I really want to see these designs.
prices only go up mega what?
google would support this? 12m wide floor plates the best?
if faux georgians are going in here hopefully they won’t be as ugly as the ones on the north quays near four courts.
they’re pointless and stand out a milegiven this,
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1016/1224281254585.html
and the takeover of NIE, along with debts incurred by defaulters and the massive cost overrun of the network upgrade I fear this baby is flowing down the drain with the bathwater
@wearnicehats wrote:
given this,
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1016/1224281254585.html
and the takeover of NIE, along with debts incurred by defaulters and the massive cost overrun of the network upgrade I fear this baby is flowing down the drain with the bathwater
I don’t fear nothing – this project was conceived in a totally different environment.
While Irish consumers pay the highest price per kilowatt to this greedy monopoly company, ESB’s CEO Padraig is paid an outrageous 750K per annum; at the same time ESB are charging €86 disconnection fee to households who are unable to pay their bills in these straightened times – in my opinion this is simply scum corporate standards 😡
There are vast amounts of empty idle office space nearby to ESB HQ if space is needed – not least of all the soon-to-be-empty Bank of Ireland HQ which is adjacent on Baggot St.
If in such circumstances ESB were to proceed with what is a vanity project, they would become the focal point for public rage at out-of-control unaccountable state owned companies – and I for one would be leading the charge
@tomredwest wrote:
if faux georgians are going in here hopefully they won’t be as ugly as the ones on the north quays near four courts.
There´s a good Georgian reproduction on Parnell Square somewhere. I think Graham posted pics of it ages ago. Can´t find it.
Do the right thing, ESB.. give us back our Georgians. You can retain a bit of your horrendous HQ facade and turn it into a museum. :rolleyes:
@Morlan wrote:
Do the right thing, ESB.. give us back our Georgians
Yeah but that’s not their plan from what I am hearing… if they proceed, expect the application to be ‘contemporary’ and ‘iconic’ – i.e. again out of character, but this time much greedier in terms of blowing the parapet height skywards… and if they do file such an application, I’ll have all the more fun planting the proverbial bombs in the system – ‘terrorism through paperwork’ as it were 🙂
12/09/2010
@ESB wrote:
The ESB has told the council “that it is essential that the plan include a height range of up to eight storeys for commercial use if the final adopted policies in support of major employment and economic growth in the city centre are to be realised”.
They cannot be serious.:confused:
@Morlan wrote:
12/09/2010
The ESB has told the council “that it is essential that the plan include a height range of up to eight storeys for commercial use if the final adopted policies in support of major employment and economic growth in the city centre are to be realised”.
They cannot be serious.:confused:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
*hutton begins to prepare a few mortars*
Mark my words – if ESB proceed with such a vanity project, which no matter what way you want to put it, effectively takes cash away from the exchequer, citizens will take to the streets and ESB CEO Padraig McManus will be as popular as Marie Antoinette in 1789.
How out of fucking touch can one state company get? :rolleyes:
It is far from out of touch that the ESB management are; such a wave of consolodation in energy companies has not been seen internationally for a long time. The ultimate poisin pill defence to a trade sale or flotation to institutional investors would be a commercial property development project in Ireland of this scale.
Pure genius in frustrating the implementation of the McCarthy review should it be decided to cash out of a very valuable utility asset; however with BoI gone to Burlington Road they could pick up the STW scheme on Baggot St to provide all the new floor space they require and convert their existing premises into a hotel which has services capacity that would be impossible to install in a comparable location today.
Here’re some images from the 3XN proposal. There’re a few more diagrams and images on their website. Presume this means they didn’t make it to the later stages of the competition if its in the public realm.
Mark my words – if ESB proceed with such a vanity project, which no matter what way you want to put it, effectively takes cash away from the exchequer, citizens will take to the streets and ESB CEO Padraig McManus will be as popular as Marie Antoinette in 1789.
I only wish Irish citizens were as familiar with this ‘taking to the streets’ concept as the French you reference. As a believer (and practitioner) of taking to the streets I only wish there were more joining me. Ah well, at least Jim Kennedy is answering questions.
@Frank Taylor wrote:
Do they want to rebuild a Georgian facade and add 8 stories? As a setback?
It’s already 7 stories to the rear, close to the 9 story Bank of Ireland HQ.
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