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  • #780205
    Anonymous
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    Apologies for that JDivision.

    I thought it was your post for some reason. As I said, I would prefer to wait to see what it looks like before I make a definite decision on it, but going on that image I don’t think it looks to great to be honest.

    Anyway, we will have to see.

    #780206
    malec
    Participant

    Nice image, not a particularly great looking tower or the groundscraper next to it but it’s OK

    #780207
    Pug
    Participant

    beats victoria cross lads

    #780208
    kite
    Participant

    @Pug wrote:

    beats victoria cross lads

    😮 The public toilets on Mechrants Quay beat Victoria Mills.:mad:
    Opus awards my arse…i closed my account with Bank of Ireland last year because of that sh*t award.

    #780209
    joe mulligan
    Participant

    I am trying to find out who the building services engineers are on the Eglington St. project.

    Any info appreciated.

    #780210
    Maskhadov
    Participant

    all looks a bit low rise and run of the mill stuff.

    #780211
    -Donnacha-
    Participant

    the victoria cross jibes are getting a bit tiring and hysterical. anyone agree?

    please feel free to mention other buildings in the city people feel are worthy of criticism? there are plenty of examples.

    #780212
    rebel_city
    Participant

    Fair point – but we have to keep up our opinions so that buildings like Vic.Mills never become a reality again! They’ve won awards but in my opinon – what an utter disgrace and embarrassment to the city-scape!:mad:

    #780213
    damnedarchitect
    Participant

    Are the ‘Eglinton st’ development and ‘the Elysian’ the same project?!

    #780214
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @rebel_city wrote:

    Fair point – but we have to keep up our opinions so that buildings like Vic.Mills never become a reality again! They’ve won awards but in my opinon – what an utter disgrace and embarrassment to the city-scape!:mad:

    The fact that you don’t like Tynan’s design does not make it bad architecture. What is truly “embarrassing” is to read subjective ranting on a site that is supposed to be for serious architectural criticism. I am not surprised that you find it an effort to “keep it up”.

    #780215
    kite
    Participant

    @Dieter wrote:

    The fact that you don’t like Tynan’s design does not make it bad architecture. What is truly “embarrassing” is to read subjective ranting on a site that is supposed to be for serious architectural criticism. I am not surprised that you find it an effort to “keep it up”.

    I agree with rebel_city, but if others want to take the “see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil” approach to the utter rubbish that is Tynan’s & Montgomery’s Victoria Mills so be it.
    Maybe you would care to nominate this pile of vile junk for another award Dieter?,most would prefer to set VM alight to rid the city of this embarrassment. 😡

    #780216
    jdivision
    Participant

    @Dieter wrote:

    The fact that you don’t like Tynan’s design does not make it bad architecture. What is truly “embarrassing” is to read subjective ranting on a site that is supposed to be for serious architectural criticism. I am not surprised that you find it an effort to “keep it up”.

    I think discussion of the aesthetic of a building is part of serious architectural criticism. The majority of people will only ever see the exterior of a building and therefore the impact of the exterior is extremely important. I’d be interested to know if the bank that financed the scheme were behind the awards. I was in Cork at the weekend and was very surprised by the blandness of almost every new building.

    #780217
    jdivision
    Participant

    @Dieter wrote:

    The fact that you don’t like Tynan’s design does not make it bad architecture. What is truly “embarrassing” is to read subjective ranting on a site that is supposed to be for serious architectural criticism. I am not surprised that you find it an effort to “keep it up”.

    I think discussion of the aesthetic of a building is part of serious architectural criticism. If you look at the majority of buildings that win awards, it’s the memorable exterior that does it: the Swiss Re tower etc. The majority of people will only ever see the exterior of a building and therefore the impact of the exterior is extremely important. I’d be interested to know if the bank that financed the scheme were behind the awards.

    #780218
    Spinal Tap
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    @damnedarchitect wrote:

    Are the ‘Eglinton st’ development and ‘the Elysian’ the same project?!

    Yes its the same project and The Elysian is a great name unless you are unfortunate to have a lisp !:)

    #780219
    rebel_city
    Participant

    @Dieter wrote:

    The fact that you don’t like Tynan’s design does not make it bad architecture. What is truly “embarrassing” is to read subjective ranting on a site that is supposed to be for serious architectural criticism. I am not surprised that you find it an effort to “keep it up”.

    This site is for architects AND anyone with an opinion. I may not be an architect but I am quite capable of judging what I feel to be an attractive building or not. I don’t look at a building like Victoria Mills and say “Hmm…doesn’t look nice, looks quite old fashioned, but era it’s probably really environmentally friendly and the ecustics must be amaaaazing!”

    You’ve a fair point, but I’m entitled to mine – I respect your opinion but I really do think that VIc Mills “flats” are embarassing and bland.

    (Excuse me for continuing a conversation which is not directly related to the Eglington St. development!)

    #780220
    A-ha
    Participant

    Is there going to be any viewing deck or something along those lines in the building? Would be great if they had an area open to the public.

    #780221
    Cathal Dunne
    Participant

    Just looking at that panorama of the Corconian skyline, what’s going to happen to those sheds/warehouses between the apartments around the Elysian Tower and the Lee? Are they being rebuilt as well, or are they going to be just done up like those dockland warehouses in CHQ.

    #780222
    phatman
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    @Cathal Dunne wrote:

    Just looking at that panorama of the Corconian skyline, what’s going to happen to those sheds/warehouses between the apartments around the Elysian Tower and the Lee? Are they being rebuilt as well, or are they going to be just done up like those dockland warehouses in CHQ.

    Those warehouses went up for sale seperately back along, and do not form part of this development. It is my understanding that Howard Holdings purchased aprt of the site, I could be wrong, and O’ Callaghan Properties the rest? It was mentioned way back in the Look at the state of Cork like thread. In any case, I would be quite sure they would be completely redeveloped.

    #780223
    Cathal Dunne
    Participant

    I was looking at that especially because they slot really nicely into the whole rebuild. Perhaps what they could do is just flatten everything there and build it up to a 10-15 storey range. It would be good to have another tower about the same size as the Eglinton St biulding (or higher!:) down that end as a contrast and counterpoint. Plus, the tower being beside the river could act as a sort of gatehouse to the whole rebuild. Maybe that’s they should name it that, the gatehouse!:)

    #780224
    ake
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    Oh my God tell me they are not going to put that illuminous green cheap plastic shite all the way up the tower! Why is that horrible crap popping up all over the place?! It’s the single ugliest building material I have ever seen anywhere in my life. It should be banned. Can we actually not afford a nice polished granite or sandstone in this country overflowing with money

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