Dublin vistas
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not exactly the right view but you get the idea of the scale difference…
This building would top the list with the most damage to a vista???
Which vista would that be? It looks well book-ending the Liffey with Liberty Hall. And I don’t think its height is a bad thing when seen from any angle really.
BTW, the sheer number of bloody buses!would be dublins best 360??? if you had a higher point in the middle of the bridge and fix the discussed things??
Ugh! Those planters (them boxes) are so crass. Bring back the ‘Tomb of the unknown Gurrier’, now that was class.
do crap vistas count?
If so I noticed that the ugly AIB on Capel Street closes the view down Henry Street, and the side of the brutalist Elm Park office development closes the view as one drives south along Sandymount Strand. That drive also evokes memories of O’Gara’s classic line “the waste that is Sandymount Strand”. It looked fantastic as ever yesterday afternoonSandymount Strand is also the safest beach in Ireland, it’s impossible to drown on it. Even when the tide is in, you have to walk out about two miles to get your depth.
@gunter wrote:
Sandymount Strand is also the safest beach in Ireland, it’s impossible to drown on it. Even when the tide is in, you have to walk out about two miles to get your depth.
Enjoy it before the floating suburbs/ orbital motorway are built 😉
@fergalr wrote:
Enjoy it before the floating suburbs/ orbital motorway are built 😉
You’re not referring to the ‘Coastal Quarter’ and ‘Peninsula Parkway’?
when driving down grafton st into st stephens green park remember to that you can only do 50 km/hr and avoid
hitting women and children if you can…
thank you frank you only go to prove my point 😀
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee6Bcu9wauY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOalno8zH6c&feature=related
has any one seen my teddy bear????
i don’t know who took this photoHmmm and theres David McSavage chatting up a young one in post 49 – well she looks like a cutie anyway David! Dublin vistas, where would you be without them? 🙂
Probably asking her does she know any good jokes?!>?
Dublin Vista no. 257?
No. 10 Mill Street from Newmarket, down Mill Lane.
What would this have looked like circa 1720?
@gunter wrote:
What would this have looked like circa 1720?
10th March 2008 11:56 AMless depressing i’d imagine 🙁
@gunter wrote:
Dublin Vista no. 257?
No. 10 Mill Street from Newmarket, down Mill Lane.
Absolutely feckin disgraceful. To be let get like this has been an outrage 😡
It really is disgraceful that the above building is being left as is. Christine Casey gives a fairly detailed account of it, further indicating its significance:
@Pevsner Architectural Guide to Dublin by Christine Casey wrote:
On the adjoining MILL STREET is an early C18 house (No.10) of considerable scale and sophistication reputed to have been built as a dower house by either the 4th (d1707) or the 5th (d1715) Earl of Meath. Remodelled in 1894 as a school and mission of G.P. Beater. It terminates an axial vista from Newmarket and Mill Lane. Tall and relatively narrow, of 5 bays and 3 rendered storeys over basement, with a gabled brick porch and brick top floor with a gabled centrepiece. Originally it had a pair of curvilinear gables, flush sash windows and an attenuated Corinthian doorcase crowned by a vigorous swan-necked pediment. The interior was vandalized in the 1980. The rooms were wainscted and the stair had three fluted and twisted balusters per thread, Corinthian newals and a richly carved apron to the landing.
Anybody know anything as to the ownership?
Hutton: 10 Mill St. was owned by Eircom for generations, they had a big yard behind the house, and it was in their care that the house fell apart. I was in the house once, about ten years ago and you could see the original panelling on the stairwell rotting in front of your eyes. I remember seeing the huge original chunky panelled front door just lying there in the hall like a massive bar of chocolate.
The property was sold and amalgamated into a development site a couple of years ago and now has the benefit of one of those HKR mega-scheme planning permissions. There’s a couple of decent renders on the HKR web site, but the house doesn’t feature.
To deal with the particular problem of the house, a prestigeous conservation practice was brought in . This is where the Venice/Burra Charter fog descends. Everyone knows that no. 10 Mill Street is the most complete and the best documented twin gable ‘Dutch Billy’ in the country, but incredibly, the version of the house that these geniuses are proposing to conserve / restore is the mutilated 1890s version, apparently because we don’t have enough Vistorian confections in Terenure and Rathgar!
The get out clause here is that, in conservation, you’re supposed to stop where conjecture begins, but in this case that’s just being lazy. The two widely published drawings of the house, prior to the Victorian alterations, differ on the profile of the curved gables due to different levels of drawing ability on the part of the two artists, but a less well known, head on, photograph exists from about the vantage point on Mill lane that I took my photograph, and with a bit of photogrametry, accurate restoration drawings could be prepared, if there was a will.
There’s another close up photograph of a man in a top hat standing on the steps in front of the magnificant doorway, that was published in one of the vintage Dublin photo books, a good while back, but I can’t remember which one. The Architectural archive probably have all of this stuff.
The man who knows the most about this house and the whole gabled tradition is Peter Walsh, the former curator of the Guinness museum, but he’s not the type to lead an angry mob.
A nice hodge podge mess of different styles from different periods. Not a particularly nice vista but it has a nice warm glowy warming glow name. (btw I tried to get Leinster House through Fitzwilliam Lane but it didn’t come out right -Bertie must’ve been in coz all the lines were blurred and you couldn’t make out what the hell was going on)
@gunter wrote:
The property was sold and amalgamated into a development site a couple of years ago and now has the benefit of one of those HKR mega-scheme planning permissions. There’s a couple of decent renders on the HKR web site, but the house doesn’t feature.
It’s actually Anthony Reddy who are doing the scheme incorporating 10 Mill Street. But HKR are doing a scheme on an adjoining site incorporating the Tenters pub – ABP Ref. 216936 – which appears to be commencing now.
No movement yet on the 10 Mill Street site – ABP Ref. 217613– and no mention of it on Reddys’ website. Wonder what’s happening …
The two widely published drawings of the house, prior to the Victorian alterations, differ on the profile of the curved gables due to different levels of drawing ability on the part of the two artists, but a less well known, head on, photograph exists from about the vantage point on Mill lane that I took my photograph, and with a bit of photogrametry, accurate restoration drawings could be prepared, if there was a will.
Are you SURE this photograph exists gunter? I have HEARD it exists too but I have never seen it, and it’s not in the place you would most expect to see it: the planning application conservation report on the building by the ‘prestigious’ conservation practice you refer to. I won’t believe it exists til I see it.
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