Dublin Street Lighting
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- October 6, 2009 at 11:08 pm #755733
GrahamH
ParticipantIt’s simply baffling that over a million euro was spent on the Bus Gate project, with zero improvement – in fact resulting in a net disimprovement – in the aesthetics of the capital’s flagship civic space. No rationalisation whatever of lighting was conducted; not even the car park lighting outside Trinity, as Stephen mentions, being removed. Truly a monument to a lack of joined-up thinking.
The new lamp standard on the median is now the third model of its type in the city, the other two being positioned at Cornmarket and the junction of Harcourt Street and Adelaide Road. As mentioned, these are recycled O’Connell Street median tripartite branches, sprayed crass Celtic Tiger silver, Sony Bravia style, with new lamps affixed atop. The lamps give off good light, but are too flimsy relative to the column bulk for the standard to be correctly proportioned (a problem also generated by the tight clustering of the arms), and to generate the gravitas demanded of a street standard. And of course it is completely random, so either way it jarrs unduly.
Meanwhile, the famous seahorse standards guarding Grattan languish as ever with chipped paint, dirty glass lamps, and cumbersome domestic CFL globes competing with their decorative detailing during the day, and giving off a dull glow by night. Such a shame.
Need it even be reiterated that College Green deserves so much more. Is there no pride in the Lighting Division at all? They don’t even seem to have a legacy of rose-tinted information pamphlets and exhibitions extolling their grand projects, past and present, so beloved of other local authority departments. Indeed, it took Derry O’Connell of An Taisce to write, publish and illustrate the definitive guide to the city’s historic lighting back in the 1980s. Now is the time, more than ever, to be reusing, recycling and showcasing this stock on the city’s streets!
October 7, 2009 at 8:04 am #755734missarchi
ParticipantThe way Carlisle bridge is going its only going to get worse vents bus stop and less people crossing… new clear hikort option…
October 9, 2009 at 6:41 pm #755735lostexpectation
Participantdublin south county council now has a mapped report a fault system for any of south dublins busybodies,
http://connect.southdublin.ie/connect/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=249
for reporting broken lights etcNovember 6, 2009 at 3:59 pm #755736lostexpectation
Participantcan’t find the traffic poles thread
Let’s count telegraph poles, says councillor
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/lets-count-telegraph-poles-says-councillor-1936124.htmltaxpayers money, that phrase
March 17, 2010 at 12:06 am #755737lomo
ParticipantThis has been a great thread, I hope people are still interested.
Dublin City Council make lofty claims about protection of architectural heritage, when evidently it did not occur to them that street furniture and in particular street lighting are a very important part of that remit. It has been confirmed to me that all of the 1930s lamp posts have been ‘thrown out’.
The Merrion Square installation was done in the 1980s by a lighting technician from the Lighting Department, i.e., someone with zero conservation training, who took a passing interest.
This is why you end up with the 30s lanterns on the 1903 brackets. This is why 30s lamps are removed from the streets because they don’t fit in with someone’s personal idea of ‘history’.
I expect someone who makes decisions about the landscape of a European capital city to be trained in conservation or history.
There is evidently no conservation officer working with the Lighting Division. I will be writing to the Heritage Office of Dublin City Council, advising them of my concern and disdain. Please do so too, if you care that your heritage is going to landfill. If people who care say nothing, the people who don’t care get away with everything.
Please write to them!
Dublin City Council
Heritage Office
Block 3, Floor 3
Civic Offices
Dublin 8Tel: (01) 222 3824
Fax: (01) 222 2271
Email: heritage@dublincity.ieMarch 17, 2010 at 12:32 am #755738Alek Smart
ParticipantStraying a wee bit off topic,I`m keen to find out if DCC have some form of Blackout policy in force for Westmoreland Street…or is it an attempt to take the spotlight(!!) off the somewhat inapropriate siting of the Weekend Portaloo`s ….:rolleyes:
The Black Hole of Calcutta must surely have been a brighter prospect that the College Green end of Westmoreland Street !! 😮
March 22, 2010 at 1:01 am #755739Paul Clerkin
KeymasterGraham – another view of those concrete posts on O’Connell Street – from the new Edwin Smith book
October 8, 2010 at 7:02 pm #755740Smithfield Resi
ParticipantI spotted one of these (headless) 1912 bad boys today…amazed it has survived in this industrial location…and I had a nice chat with the relevant dept in South Dublin cc about a lick of paint…
October 10, 2010 at 2:54 pm #755741Anonymous
InactiveI’ve spotted that one myself Smithfield Resi … how it survived several bouts of road widening is beyond me, perhaps that says more about South Dublin County Council than anything else (the Nangor road was previously the main road from Dublin to Newcastle)…another from 1912 has survived on the median of the Naas road between the Red Cow & Newlands Cross.
October 13, 2010 at 1:40 pm #755742FXR
ParticipantFrom The Antique Pavement by Derry O’Connell 1975
October 13, 2010 at 1:42 pm #755743FXR
ParticipantFrom The Antique Pavement by Derry O’Connell 1975
October 13, 2010 at 1:43 pm #755744FXR
ParticipantFrom The Antique Pavement by Derry O’Connell 1975
October 13, 2010 at 1:44 pm #755745FXR
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October 13, 2010 at 1:45 pm #755746FXR
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From The Antique Pavement by Derry O’Connell 1975
October 27, 2010 at 8:13 am #755747Alek Smart
ParticipantA quick perambulation along a thoroughly blacked-out Westmoreland St last evening revealed only a single functioning Public Light fitting on the East-Side of the street.
This shining beacon is tacked on to the facade of the,now empty,former EBS building.
Of itself it`s a fairly brutal fitting as it certainly sits like a zit on the end of a nose,however it is at least working.
The City Council policy for the remainder of that side appears to revolve around the Westin Hotel being good enough to put some candles in their windows as there are NO other public lighting fixtures in place.
The West-Side fares somewhat better with at least two fittings functional,however their output is diminished considerably by the surrounding dense foilage.
What a thoroughly depressing night-time vista this once rather splendind street now presents as it spurs citizens and visitors onto racing through it,lest they experience a mischief.
All the LAP`s and assorted high-sounding plans programmes and intentions do not count for diddley-squat if the Civic Authority do not possess the simple damn interest to take a walk around their own City now and then….after dark that is 😡
December 12, 2010 at 4:16 pm #755748urbanisto
ParticipantI see that the old art deco lampstands on D’Olier Street have been permanently removed and replaced with swan-neck replicas. The new lamps at least match the others on the street but I cant help wondering where the old lampstands have ended up. The “new” lamps have been expertly installed….in lumps of tarmac, however I presume this is because a repaving of this section of the street is being considered in the near future.
April 24, 2011 at 12:17 pm #755749Alek Smart
ParticipantIt’s now reached the stage where I’m actively considering petioning Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II of our nearest neighbours,to see if She may take the Westmoreland St Blackout case on.
I suspect that Dublin City Council’s Public Lighting Section may be fearful of breaching the blackout regulations and allowing the Street to become a target for Boche Bombers or such fiendish types.
I drop in here on an irregular basis,but I retain the hope that someday I shall be able to post a “First Cuckoo of Spring” message and refer in glowing terms to the City Councils recruitment of a Lamplighter and a supply of rushes which could be placed in some framework,perhaps attached to the Portaloos to allow the peasantry to see where to pee,so to speak.
Westmoreland St,up to last week remains in a sea of deep darkness once the Westin turn off their own lights.
Not only is it a depressing sight,but equally it is a Dangerous one,particularly for pedestrians attempting to cross it`s splendid wide aspect.Incredibly,there are lamp units (albeit horrible but functional industrial units) affixed to frontages but which have not been functional for years,yes YEARS.
With 2016 rapidly approaching,I’m wondering if the street was better lit a century ago than it is today ?
I listen on a regular basis to impressively titled Public Representatives and the likes telling us all about the Knowledge Based Economy and our incredible potential to be innovative and attract Googles,Facebooks,and EBays to our City……perhaps the last-named one might be a source of cheap, working,light-units which some passing African Missionaries might endevour to connect up for us in our hour/century of need. :crazy:
May 3, 2011 at 11:57 am #755750aj
Participantbrilliant work Alex
DCC are currently too busy beavering away on the Village Design Statement for Sandymount (Apparently the benches are too clincial and planters too plastic.. quote unquote) to be worried about anything as irrelevant as lighting , cleaning or general maintence in the city centre.
May 3, 2011 at 5:29 pm #755751Cathal Dunne
Participant@Alek Smart wrote:
I listen on a regular basis to impressively titled Public Representatives and the likes telling us all about the Knowledge Based Economy and our incredible potential to be innovative and attract Googles,Facebooks,and EBays to our City……perhaps the last-named one might be a source of cheap, working,light-units which some passing African Missionaries might endevour to connect up for us in our hour/century of need. :crazy:
Exactly, we get caught up with creating the internet capital of Europe here in Dublin but can miss out on the basics. I’d love to have a budget of about a €100 million to go round fixing up the footpaths, sorting out streetlighting, cleaning up facades, repainting road markings and removing unnecessary poles. Simple minor works like this would dramatically improve the urban fabric of Dublin and make it a much more livable and attractive place.
The recession is having a terrible impact on the quality of street lighting and the like here in Dublin. Cheap and garish are the order of the day and Dublin City Council barely lifts a finger to do anything about it.
May 11, 2011 at 9:51 am #755752engstu
ParticipantSaw this http://pix.ie/bohoe/2313362/size/800 on Twitter, apparently only happened this morning – presumably one less old street light in Dublin.
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