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The following diagram gives us a good idea of building height for Spencer Dock and Point Village. A depressing 4/5 floors for the majority.
“In promoting the central spine on Major Street, it is recognised that buildings should be of particular urban scale which give importance to the street and clearly enlose the major spaces at Station Square and Point Square.”
I don’t get it. In promoting the central spine (Major St.) surely the buildings should be generaly higher than 5 floors. :confused:
Spencer dock will work well most of the buildings will feature setbacks bringing the height up, critically it will be a pleasant user environment where all the buildings have unshadowed natural light. There is no question in my mind that this development is a lot better than the application that was refused in 2000.
@Thomond Park wrote:
Spencer dock will work well most of the buildings will feature setbacks bringing the height up, critically it will be a pleasant user environment where all the buildings have unshadowed natural light. There is no question in my mind that this development is a lot better than the application that was refused in 2000.
What was refused, Thomond? I’m not saying that the development is all bad, of course not. Most of the developments of of very high quality and I like them.. just wished it was a tad denser.
how can 10 storeys be considered a tower? it makes me laugh. i agree. they really do need to go higher in that area. at present it is so flat.
@Morlan wrote:
What do you all think of the Montevetro block? Not sure I like the top two floors much, a bit boring. I don’t know if this is even going ahead. They haven’t even gotten rid of the burnout warehouse on the site there.
And what about the Alto Vetro building. I see they have boared off that whole site, wonder if they’re going ahead with it,
what is that tallish brown building to the left of alto vetro?
@alpha wrote:
what is that tallish brown building to the left of alto vetro?
I’m not sure. It looks like an early 20th century industrial block. I quite like it.
It’s simply known as “The tower” and yes it was/is an industrial building but is mainly used for crafts/restaurants now. The Trinity (formerly IDA) Enterprise Centre was built around it. I work about 50m from it, so i can let yee know when work on nearby towers begins and post some photos.
I’ll be very interested to see how they actually construct alto vetro. The site is incredibly small – footprint is about that of a 3bed semi, and there isn’t anywhere for them to put stores/machinery. I imagine given this fact it will probably need to be substantially prefabricated and just hoisted/assembled on site… we will see!thanks for the info. i like it too. as for alto vetro, i’m looking forward to construction starting soon. let’s hope the info i got about it is true and that construction starts then.
@CiaranMurphy wrote:
It’s simply known as “The tower” and yes it was/is an industrial building but is mainly used for crafts/restaurants now. The Trinity (formerly IDA) Enterprise Centre was built around it. I work about 50m from it, so i can let yee know when work on nearby towers begins and post some photos.
I’ll be very interested to see how they actually construct alto vetro. The site is incredibly small – footprint is about that of a 3bed semi, and there isn’t anywhere for them to put stores/machinery. I imagine given this fact it will probably need to be substantially prefabricated and just hoisted/assembled on site… we will see!I was just going to ask what those red brick buildings were. They take up a massive amount of space there, an absolute goldmine. I’m sure in the next 5 years they will be flattened and swallowed by luxery apartments.
You’re right about the Vetro footprint. I was inspecting it the other day and it I find it hard to believe a tower could fit there.
Ever since that rendering of the Alto Vetro was first posted months ago, no matter what way it is viewed I have found it equally as poor as the other one: it looks like a Benidorm apartment block – with net curtains.
Does anyone have a better image that proves just how wonderful it really is?!
@alpha wrote:
how can 10 storeys be considered a tower? it makes me laugh. i agree. they really do need to go higher in that area. at present it is so flat.
Equally a wall of tall bland structures would fail; in three words selective design quality
😡 Its bloody awful, aaaagggghhhhaa! 😡
Its gaudy, rigid, square, monolithic, industrial and bland, for god’s sake, DDDA say they are designing one of the best waterfronts in the world, the actions don’t prove the words :rolleyes:
If they are going to put up a building that high, then it should dress to the nines! 😡
Even something like colour a bit of boldness??
The only tower I like on the entire DDDA plans is the U2twisting tower, and the tower is increased from the current proposal of 60 metres to a mere 100metres, which is good, as its a well designed and designed by a famous architects, in that case in can be as high, as it pleases
When your putting a high rise up, good or ugly it WILL BE SEEN, so I cannot understand there are making the same mistakes again, I-e Hawkins house 😡 they look like cousins as the new one proposed – Alto vetro and the other one
@Graham Hickey wrote:
Alto Vetro
I disagree AltoV is perfect for both its relationship with Zoe’s first architect designed building and its ability to use site constraints as an advantage. For me it is the bland use of portland in Montevetro that fails terribly it is Shay Cleary’s Santry Cross without the redemtive quality of the podium that gave the Santry Cross scheme a certain ‘Man from Uncle’ charm.
I have found all the Treasury Holdings & Anthony Reddy high-rise plans for Dublin to be utterly disappointing. They baste in banality and look like the left-overs from a Benidorm developer’s wet-dream. I’m sorry but Dublin deserves better! It’s not as though Treasury don’t have the money to back up a quality design – nor Mr. Reddy lacking in talent to produce one.
In my mind the Craig Henry-design (U2 Tower) remains the best proposal so far – now that SJR by OMS and Dunloe Ewart is out the window.
Heuston Gate, Santry Cross and the rejected proposal for the Players-site were also let downs. That’s my opinion, but it’s because I know the Irish architectural community is brimming with talent and imagination – and if Dublin is going to embrace high-rise it should do it with a little style.
Yes but it was designed by Shay Cleary and not Toni Ready
http://www.homanobrien.ie/housing02.html
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@Graham Hickey wrote:
Does anyone have a better image that proves just how wonderful it really is?!
Here’s a slightly enhanced version.
I’m not entirely sure about this tower either. Actually it looks like Liberty Hall in disguise – all it needs is the Chineseish roof. Ah it’s not that bad really, it doesn’t scream awful to me just yet.
Wonder what they’ll do to that white floating box. I don’t like it, terribley bland. They should paint each square a different colour of the spectrum.
@Thomond Park wrote:
Yes but it was designed by Shay Cleary and not Toni Ready
http://www.homanobrien.ie/housing02.html
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Thanks Thomond Park 🙂 – know about SCA and Alto, but had the 32-storey Treasury disaster in the back of my mind when thinking about that post. Shudder! 🙁
There was an image of that up in one these threads not so long ago – what an awful proposal. Must seek out that image again to remind myself of how a building shouldn’t look.
the amazing thing about this building is the footprint, it was a single house before! they can’t be getting much more than a unit a floor. tcd must be thrilled to have that height established so close to the innovation centre.
What’s happening with 35/35a Barrow St. ?
I did a search and found two developments under the same address. I don’t know what the status is of either.
The 7 story office block is incredibly boring. The highrise is over the top and I can’t see it ever being built here. I’d have to say though, I’m so anxious for anything skyscraperish they should go ahead with it!
They all are like cousins to the Liberty hall and Hawkins house ! 20 / 30 years span it took to start the whle idae of high rises , yet most are still dreary and drabby. sorry, they really look boring for this day and age,
the one above looks way out of proportion, and reminds me of something in Hong Kong !
Whats going on wth architecture? these propasals are really nasty.Morlan, it grey and bland,not something i’d show to anybody in a hurry, c’mon its terrible
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