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😀 lol……. when our public transport is finsihed , we should all organaise a bunngee jump off the dart bridge over the liffey, anyone interested?? dis date will be sometime in the next century ! 😀 to celebrate
Planning permission has been granted for a 32-storey building in Dublin.
The building, which will be the State’s tallest, is part of a development planned by the Office of Public Works near Heuston Station at Kilmainham in Dublin.
An Board Pleanála gave the go-ahead for the developement this morning.
The proposed development includes 197 residential units, offices, a museum building, a health club, restaurants, a pub, a childcare facility, an educational facility and an observation desk.
The lowest three floors of the 32-storey building will be used as a restaurant while 28 floors are for residential use. There will also be a public observation desk on the top floor.
At its highest point the building will be 140.55m above sea-level.
The board ruled against its own inspector and passed the development by 5 votes to 2. It said the high quality of the design involved was a factor in the decision.
ireland.com 15062005
@ewanduffy wrote:
Planning permission has been granted for a 32-storey building in Dublin.
The building, which will be the State’s tallest, is part of a development planned by the Office of Public Works near Heuston Station at Kilmainham in Dublin.
An Board Pleanála gave the go-ahead for the developement this morning.
The proposed development includes 197 residential units, offices, a museum building, a health club, restaurants, a pub, a childcare facility, an educational facility and an observation desk.
The lowest three floors of the 32-storey building will be used as a restaurant while 28 floors are for residential use. There will also be a public observation desk on the top floor.
At its highest point the building will be 140.55m above sea-level.
The board ruled against its own inspector and passed the development by 5 votes to 2. It said the high quality of the design involved was a factor in the decision.
ireland.com 15062005
has the tide turned…finally??
has work started on the spencer dock development yet? also… i see from a picture of this development that there will be a couple of taller buildings in it. how tall will the tallest one be? any detailed pictures?
thanks for the info. somehow i thought one of them would be at least be 16 storeys. it is hard to tell though from the pictures i’ve seen.
I think one 60m is mooted, but generally the plan is higher than IFSC 2 but not on the “tower” front
indicative images:
just got an email from treasury holdings. according to the email construction work on alto vetro is due to start in september/october 2005.
I can’t give a link to it because http://www.ddda.ie is down at the moment but there’s a PDF document on the site somewhere which outlines the plans for Spencer Dock.
The document is a witness to the DDDA’s inexplicable fixation with limiting building height. Most of the Spencer Dock development will comprise of five or six story buildings according to their plans. For no good reason that I can see, a residential block is allowed to be one story higher than an commercial block in the development. These 5/6 story blocks will be allowed an extra story if it is set back from the parapet (i.e. hidden). I presume this is to protect the public; someone could easily have a heart attack if confronted by the sight of a building overtly over five stories tall. There is a suggestion that in cases of “outstanding architectural design” they may allow one or two extra stories; if the current state of the north docklands reflects their taste in architecture, then this doesn’t promise much for me. I’m sure a fortune will be spent on high quality fitting of the public areas in this new development only to extend the lifeless, soulless IFSC eastwards. It’s odd if you go past George’s Dock; the buildings are both too big (squat, bulky and blocky) so they lack any feeling of human scale while simultaneously are boringly low rise and monotonous so they create no visual interest.
I would have hoped that the DDDA might have learned some lessons from the obvious failures of the western section and changed tack for the rest of it but instead they offer minor tweeks and refinements to their retarded model for urban development and regeneration. A great opportunity to create a vibrant modern city quarter has been squandered. A great setting for an area of modern taller buildings in Dublin has wasted; it now looks like Dublin will end up with oddball tall buildings dotted at random around the city. The initial mistake with the IFSC was almost understandable; the boom hadn’t really sunk in at that stage and getting anything at all built down there must have seemed like a “win”; compounding the mistake is unforgivable.
I think the DDDA might be realizing how shite and unimpressive the overall impact of the Dublin docks is. In the Irish Times this morning there is a report saying that they intend to raise the height of a proposed tower to 100 metres down nearby the Point Depot. This is to give a gateway effect with the proposed U2 tower across the way at Britain quay which has been raised in height to 100 metres as well. Exciting stuff!
btw jimg – i’m guessing the reason residental is allowed a floor more is that the floor heights are the smaller, 7 stories of residental and 6 of offices are roughly the same height.
It really boils my blood. I would have been happy with a floor height of at least 8/9. That should be the absolute minimum.
Spencer Dock is a suburban business park, it wouldn’t look out of place on the outskirts of some provincial US city. It’s a pure waste.
The DDA has destroyed this opportunity to redefine the city for the 21st Century. What I don’t understand is why this was not greeted with the outcry and horror and dark mutterings from the Taoiseach that Kevin Roche’s scheme was.
I do think the docklands needs to be much higher density if it’s to create the critical mass of population needed to support the kind of shops, restaurants etc that would turn it into a lively urban quarter. I think the area would have to generate its own activity and buzz before you get people venturing what is a fair distance outside the established city centre.The low-rise extended IFSC is a bleak, soulless case in point.
Two towers plonked on the waterfront is lip-service to providing some skyline interest for this terrible scheme.I diasgree I think that the present plan for Spencer Dock is a lot better than 90% of the other schemes proposed for the area the 02 building almost directly opposite is real suburban office park territory.
What do you all think of the Montevetro block? Not sure I like the top two floors much, a bit boring. I don’t know if this is even going ahead. They haven’t even gotten rid of the burnout warehouse on the site there.
And what about the Alto Vetro building. I see they have boared off that whole site, wonder if they’re going ahead with it,
Have to say I agree with your observations on Montevetro. Its very clumsy looking. In fact I think the whole building itself is terrible…anywhere architecture strikes again. Alto Vetro (whats with all these Italian names) is much better. I think its holarious that it will occupy such a small site. I would imagine this is going ahead as the original buildingon the site was demolished last year. Perhaps they are waiting for more details on the new MacMahon Bridge before they start construction.
Yeah I think its a bit dissapointing how uninspiring the whole Docklands scheme is although it is quite a pleasant area from ground level. There are plenty of good elements in the completed schemes but a bit more height and variety of would have been welcome. The diagram with the IT article highlights this very starkly I thought.. I think the new tower at the Point Village (note to architects: can we please move away from these dreadful generic names for schemes) should go higher. Interesting that the original height was set by the then Minister of Environment (Dempsey). Might answer your question Morlan. Its astounding how much intereference from national politicians there is in the planning process. Like he had nothing better to be getting on with!
i think montevetro is a bit ugly and boring. as for quay lodge it is meant to be going ahead in september/october according to an email i received from treasury holdings.
An email from the DDDA regarding Spencer Dock density (or lack thereof).
It is the Authority’s objective to secure a high density of development on the Spencer Dock site in line with Government guidelines and the Docklands Area Master Plan. The development is up to 9 storeys of residential along the quayside and 10 storeys towers along the canal, with a 44m high (12 storeys) landmark building in the centre of the site. The National Conference Centre will also be 42m in height fronting onto the quays.
Hmm, nothing I didn’t know already. 12 stories is hardly a landmark tower either. They should double the height.
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