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i wouldn’t know. what do others think? by the way, has anyone seen montevetro in london? it looks much better than the one proposed for dublin. our one will look like a poor copy. it is slanted in “almost” the same way!
Work hasn’t started yet on either.
AFAIK the burntout warehouse on the Montevetro site is still there.
has constuction started on tara street? i recall someone here saying it has, and it ihas “approved” status on skyscrapernews.com, is it the same proposal or have a few floors been chopped off for the sake of sunlight? :rolleyes:
@Graham Hickey wrote:
Quite the opposite ihateawake – it seems to be dead in the Liffey’s water.
it a real pity that corner is such a mess at the minute and that proposla looked really well
Any news on Alto Vetro and Montevetro? Has construction started yet?
No.
AFAIK the burntout warehouse on the Montevetro site is still there.
Correct. It is a very small site, isn’t it? The site for the other one is even smaller though – I don’t see how you could get the equipment for a 16 storey building on it.
has constuction started on tara street?
Tara St. Station has been a construction site for about four years, but there’s no movement on the new building. The recent upswing in the Dublin office market might change that.
i hope so. the tara street proposal is very very nice. i love the proposed shape. it should be well under construction by now but we are still waiting. that area is very bulit up anyway. i don’t see what the problem is. it would complement one george’s quay plaza very well.
@ihateawake wrote:
has constuction started on tara street? i recall someone here saying it has, and it ihas “approved” status on skyscrapernews.com, is it the same proposal or have a few floors been chopped off for the sake of sunlight? :rolleyes:
I wouldn’t pay any attention to that website. Several proposals that have been made for Dublin/Ireland don’t even get a mention there. For example, the 41 storey building proposal in South County Dublin along with a few others.
agreed. they don’t even mention royal canal park. i had to do some surfing to find out about that one.
Is the highrise at Royal Canal Park really going up? If so, when is it due to start? The cranes in that area at the moment are far to small to build such a tall building.
No signs of any highrise construction in Ireland yet.
Meanwhile, Manchester’s ‘Beetham Tower’, which was reduced from 60 floors to a ‘moderate’ 50, will be finished in a few months.
In London, about twenty 40+ story buildings approved in the past year or so. A few 70+ story towers approved. Have a look here:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17479978&highlight=london+projectsI’ve actually given up on the whole highrise Dublin thing at this stage. NOTHING is happening. Heuston Gate is a relatively low density building compared to other European capitals, and tucked away in the back arse of the west city centre – I’m not too excitied about it. There’s absolutley no chance of a proper skyscraper in Dublin for at least another 40 years by which time I’ll be probably be a corpse.
@naz78 wrote:
I wouldn’t pay any attention to that website. Several proposals that have been made for Dublin/Ireland don’t even get a mention there. For example, the 41 storey building proposal in South County Dublin along with a few others.
What’s this?
@Andrew Duffy wrote:
What’s this?
The building proposed is over 40 storeys in height and is to be built in the Inchicore/Ballyfermot/Cherryorchard area. There was some talk about it a few months back. I don’t have any pictures though and I don’t know whether it is still going ahead or not. Sorry for not being able to mention the exact area for the proposal. Maybe someone else can explain better. It does seem like a funny area to place such a tall building.
i’m not fully convinced about heuston gate anyway. i don’t believe that this will be built. if we can’t build the likes of the southbank tower/merchants gate/tara street/sir john rogersons quay/alto vetro/montevetro and numerous others how can anyone be expected to believe they will put up a 32 storey building at heuston station? i’ll believe it when i see it. it will be the year 2015 and we still won’t have heuston gate. all the issues surrounding highrise construction in ireland has led me to think this way. i’m sure i’m not alone. that 40 storey proposal makes me laugh.
Architectural conservatism in Dublin??? Just a couple of images which might be of interest. All of the talk about how modern/high-rise buildings fit in with the Dublin skyline, reminded me of an art musuem built in Graz, Austria for when it was European capital of culture in 2003. If conservative southern Austrians can build and accept this amidst an absolute architectural paradise, why cannot Dublin manage a few nicely designed high-rises. Are we that conservative????
@PDLL wrote:
Architectural conservatism in Dublin??? Just a couple of images which might be of interest. All of the talk about how modern/high-rise buildings fit in with the Dublin skyline, reminded me of an art musuem built in Graz, Austria for when it was European capital of culture in 2003. If conservative southern Austrians can build and accept this amidst an absolute architectural paradise, why cannot Dublin manage a few nicely designed high-rises. Are we that conservative????
That building is whacky. But I agree Ireland has to be one of the most tight arsed, reserved, conservative, humourless, sexless places when it comes to contemporary architecture. Look at the new emerging Dublin docks, my favourite example. So much for Dublin been the parteeee city, looks morelike a tea party in a methodist churchyard.
Hopefully the likes of the new U2 tower, Calatrava’s 2nd bridge and the Lansdowne Road proposals, etc… will help to shed this image and fire the imaginations to produce more exciting architecture for Ireland.
Whacky it is and it lights up at night!!!! I am serious. Would this have received planning permission in any part of inner city Georgian Dublin?????????? This is made all the more remarkable given the seriously pernickedy nature of the civic authorities in Austria – this is a society where the chimney sweep has the legal right to enter your home and where the police can reprimand/charge you for using your lawn mower on a Sunday. What does this say about the architectural party poopers in Dublin!
The real point I think that you are making is that regardless of the height of the structure proposed contemporary architecture in Ireland is beyond a few Civic buildings of excellent virtually non-existent. It is not about height it is about measured imagination and this is sorely lacking at present. What sums it up for me is BKDs O2 building nearing completion at Sir John Rogersons Quay the DDDA have a lot to answer for on many counts not least the complete absence of cultural facilities. It remains a sad fact that the best buildings in the Docklands i.e. Busaras and Customs House Docks Phase One were built before this city had any cash. It is further amazing that BKD could design a decent building in 1988 but appear unable to deliver anything decent at a similar waterfront location in 2004.
Exactly, Thomand Park. I am not specifically commenting on issues related to height, but on how far we are willing to accept a changing cityscape that does not have to be eternally and solely defined by one period in its history (ie red-brick three/four storeys over basement monotony). There are new building technologies, new materials available, new design strategies – why not use them to the full. Why should the limits of how far we can go be defined by the type of apartment buildings that were built along the length of the Liffey in the 90s. Is this what architecture boils down to in Ireland? If the Graz civic authorities could allow such a building in the middle of a remarkably coherent and intact historical streetscape that has barely changed for 500 years (with the exception of some WWII damage), why cannot Dublin imagine new approaches for the city and believe me for anyone who has travelled to Graz it is a city with a much more delicate and precious architectural streetscape that much of inner city Dublin.
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