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There is definitely a new control tower complex going in with the second runway and yes the height will be 80m.
Planning was to be done this year for it but the new tower is only needed to coincide with the second runway which has now been put on hold.
Didn’t really realise how big it was until now
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/anetpics2009/023.jpg
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/anetpics2009/025.jpg
It’s looking sleek from this angle anyway.
Pier E progress from DAA website
not what it should have been but having worked on the design of that for 18 months and having to deal with US immigration and their needs, well I am happy enough with it.
Found these browsing at breakfast.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42452696@N04/sets/72157622223354983/
On “Today with Pat Kenny”; RTE. Radio 1 this morning, the host was given a sneak preview of the new terminal building. He was shown around the facility by an (understandably enthusiastic) spokesman for the DAA. Although there were the familiar hackneyed references to the “high tech” and “state of the art” nature of the project, it was in interesting audio tour nonetheless. Worth a listen if you get time. If you want to catch it online the clip began about 15 minutes into the programme after a piece about the ongoing shennanigans at FÃS. It was interesting to note how the DAA spokesman (I didn’t catch his name), enthused about the new terminal opening around the same time as the conference centre and new Lansdowne road, with the suggestion of a synergy between the three projects.
The DAA spokesman was CEO Declan Collier I tuned in about half way through it and found it worth while to listen to.
T2 is coming to get you.
Updated images:
http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/TDA/Image_Bank/t2_construction_gallery.html
Might make for an interesting view of the belly of the beast…
New road for Dublin airport
A new access road at Dublin airport will officially open tomorrow.
Passengers who are being dropped off at the airport by car will now have to access the terminal by taking the new road, which takes motorists through the centre of the soon-to-be-opened Terminal 2.
Passengers using the short-term car park and those arriving by taxi, bus and coach will, for another two months, continue to access Terminal 1 by the existing approach road.
From March all passengers departing from Terminal 1 will access that terminal via the new approach road.
The traffic changes are part of the ongoing programme to upgrade the airport’s campus roads and will be clearly signposted on overhead gantries and other signage as vehicles enter the airport.
Terminal 2 is due come on stream in November with a capacity of 15 million passengers. It will accommodate all of the airport’s long-haul traffic and offer a unique new customs clearance facility for US-bound passengers.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0125/breaking60.htm
approach road bit like the sex scene in the naked gun, trains into tunnels and all that. Went through it today, certainly something new for ireland anyway.
@Bago wrote:
approach road bit like the sex scene in the naked gun, trains into tunnels and all that. Went through it today, certainly something new for ireland anyway.
:)Very explicit. Have you seen the ad elswhere looking for a new Architecture critic for the Sunday Times:p
@Bago wrote:
approach road bit like the sex scene in the naked gun, trains into tunnels and all that. Went through it today, certainly something new for ireland anyway.
Indeed. One could call it a Freudian slip-road.
Oh I can see this thread following the Lansdowne Road thread . . . . down the sewer
On the building itself, are we sure that it’s wise to design a bottleneck into a mass transportation building?
@gunter wrote:
On the building itself, are we sure that it’s wise to design a bottleneck into a mass transportation building?
The building can be demolished gunter, whats your point !?
just two through lanes isn’t it?
Looking at it last week it is really taking shape; Dublin Airport is going to be a real pleasure once this opens up given the amount of floorspace in proportion to the number of passengers. I would love to see Aer Lingus develop swap codeshares with a US carrier opening up new US destinations to unlock their impressive European route network. The floorspace to make Dublin viable is in sight.
A video tour from DAA : http://www.dublinairportauthority.co…s/introt2.html
From the off, I’ve been sceptical about passenger flows in the new terminal.This “tour” only heightens my fears.
For starters, departing passengers have to rise 2 floors after check in for security and shopping, only to have to descend 2 floors again to get to the gates.OR (USA bound passengers) descend 3 floors and rise another.
This is done so that arriving passengers only have one level change.In the current terminal departing passengers have NO level changes and arriving passengers have one(after getting off the plane).
Not only do passengers have to change floors time and time again, but departing and arriving passengers actually intersect on the 1st floor of the terminal!!Never have I seen this happen outside of tiny regional airports.By the looks of things, departing passengers will have to walk through the ever present crowds of waiting plebs to get to security.
This layout is there because of the “bridge” over the T1 road.However, the roads were re-arranged to suit the new terminal, not the other way round.Therefore the bridge was unnecessary, and a more traditional and more effective terminal could have been designed.
Even if the bridge had to be there, a more flow friendly layout could have been adopted, with arrivals on the ground floor, check-in on the first and security on the 2nd, with the pier layout changed respectively.
Or arrivals on the top with check-in and security below.In other words there were a million different possibilities that could have been used to design a more user friendly Terminal.I am dubious about T2 in that respect.
I hope I’m wrong, but I think T2 will be an incredibly annoying place to pass through..But I guess I’ll have to wait and see…It looks well though..
@PVC King wrote:
I would love to see Aer Lingus develop swap codeshares with a US carrier opening up new US destinations to unlock their impressive European route network.
They already have codeshares with Jetblue and United Airlines that open up a vast amount of cities to Aer Lingus passengers.They even have through-checked bags and it’s all on one ticket.
Not trying to be funny but Aer Lingus don’t do trans-atlantic; they have a few flights to Boston, New York, Chicago and San Fran plus a tourist flight to Orlando (should have been Miami). They don’t have the money to expand and no doubt Ryanair would do a harder deal on a new fleet with Boeing the next time a major US or European carrier falls over and is unable to complete an order as they are sitting on billions in cash; but in the absence of financial armegeddon I can see very little chance of RYA parting with it until it gets to the point of unfair subsidies being overlooked because protectionism is a forgone conclusion.
However there is a massive market from the both the US and Europe from secondary city to secondary city; the route map out of Dublin to secondary cities in Europe is when Aer Lingus and Ryanair is combined is very impressive. What is missing are the routes to secondary cities such as St Louis, Portland, Denver, Detroit etc that for all but the largest European hubs require a change anyway. Sadly no airline Irish or otherwise flies these routes so Airports like CDG, Schipol and Heathrow get the business often with three legged connections. Code share is no consolation for missing a flight between legs resulting in delays; with the absolute supply side advantage that the DAA possess they should be offering free landing charges for 3 years for any new Transatlantic and South American routes and get their short term income via the turnover provisions of the retail leases which could rebuild their duty free business that was decimated a decade ago and was for a long time their largest revenue stream.
Most of these flights can be completed in two legs, something that services from Dublin to US secondary cities couldn’t improve on.If I want to go to, say, Charlotte I either fly direct to New York (Aer Lingus) and onto Charlotte (Jetblue) or I fly to London and straight to Charlotte.Two changes.
Dublin just dosn’t have the demand for routes to lots of secondary cities on its own.The only way for it to get them is to try become a major hub (as every other European airport is trying to do).I’m not saying it shouldn’t try but the reality is that 4 major hubs, with even more relatively major ones, in Europe is probably all that’s required now.
Unless Dublin gets that parallel runway it wants PLUS an extension to its current runway it can’t become a hub.
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