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  • #759333
    supperflash
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    Thank s for your massage!

    #759334
    Radioactiveman
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    @supperflash wrote:

    Thank s for your massage!

    They’re giving out massages in here???? I want one too 😀

    #759335
    Pug
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    @lexington wrote:

    CIE had attempted an appeal against the Oyster Developments proposal to convert No.8 Parnell Place to office use – their arguments include that it may inadvertently compromise their intention to redevelopment the Bus Station on Anderson’s Quay at a later date.

    what a cheek – after years of waiting on Horgans Quay and a poor attempt at a bus station redevelopment they objected to a building that might affect them in the future? what a brilliant precedent that would have set.

    I posted a query before as to what was happening with the new City Hall – there was a horrible metal cage going up all around it – just noticed there that a big layer of glass is going up on the metal frame, looks pretty cool actually

    Seems to be nothing on water street yet

    #759336
    securityman
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    @Radioactiveman wrote:

    Anybody know what’s happening to the former “Rhino Room” pub on Castle Street? It’s just got a new coat of paint. Has this anything to do with the extensive renovation of the building next door, facing onto Daunt Square?
    Also, while I’m at it, whats the latest on the eyesore at the corner of South Main Street/Washington Street? I thought planning had been granted.

    Its reopening as a bar in the next couple of weeks one of the lads that was behind lebowskis is one of the partners the other is a former bar manager of the raven

    #759337
    A-ha
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    WizzAir have announced a new route from Cork to Katowice in Poland. Flights begin 14 July with prices beginning at €9.99 one way excluding taxes and can be booked at http://www.wizzair.com.

    #759338
    Anonymous
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    A quaint little spot it is too well was 12 years ago

    #759339
    Pug
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    isnt academy st decision due next week???

    #759340
    lexington
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    @Pug wrote:

    isnt academy st decision due next week???

    The decision is due May 2nd 2005. Expect Further Information or an Extension however.

    #759341
    Radioactiveman
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    Bord Gáis announces Co Cork plant plans

    Bord Gáis has announced plans to build a €300 million gas-fired power plant on a 25-acre site in Co Cork.

    The company has reached agreement to buy the site at Whitegate.

    The proposed 440-megawatt plant is subject to planning approval and a connection agreement with Eirgrid. Bord Gáis hopes it will be fully operational by 2009.

    The company said the development would provide it with a long-term source of power and allow it to expand its position as an electricity provider in the Irish market.

    Dave Kirwan, Head of Strategic Investments at Bord Gáis, said the Whitegate site represented a strategic and desirable location, as it was near an existing industrial development, with access to fuel storage facilities, seawater cooling and an electrical grid connection.

    #759342
    ewankennedy
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    I have a question. Has the Victoroa cross development by Frinilla been granted? I thought it was in appeal and the decision hadnt been made yet? Cos I was looking into it and told that a number of the apartments had already been sold?? The prices they quote me seemed astronomical for a 2 bedroom apartment!! Its pricing like that that makes people sceptical about the long term sustainability of the housing market.

    #759343
    lexington
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    Radioactiveman wrote:
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    I had heard about that and it makes me wonder all the more about the McNamara proposal for Little Island that was refused. Its a welcome announcement, however I continue to have the biting sensation that fossil fuel based power sources are not the way to go in this country. Sustainable alternatives like wind, tidal and geothermal to me continue to be the preferred option.

    #759344
    kite
    Participant

    @ewankennedy wrote:

    I have a question. Has the Victoroa cross development by Frinilla been granted? I thought it was in appeal and the decision hadnt been made yet? Cos I was looking into it and told that a number of the apartments had already been sold?? The prices they quote me seemed astronomical for a 2 bedroom apartment!! Its pricing like that that makes people sceptical about the long term sustainability of the housing market.

    Is it the Dennehys site you refer to?, 2 bed apts. have been sold for 430,000 euro, ok value given the location. (this price includes a car park space)

    #759345
    A-ha
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    @lexington wrote:

    I had heard about that and it makes me wonder all the more about the McNamara proposal for Little Island that was refused. Its a welcome announcement, however I continue to have the biting sensation that fossil fuel based power sources are not the way to go in this country. Sustainable alternatives like wind, tidal and geothermal to me continue to be the preferred option.

    Agree with you 100%. Don’t they give subsidies and incentives to farmers in the west if they put up wind turbines? I don’t think that enough property developers are putting green energy sources into new buildings as done in other countries. Many new apartments built in places like France, Germany and the UK are all fitted out with solar panels and pellet boilers, we just don’t do enough in this country to promote cheaper energy that is eco friendly. And as I’m on a roll, what is with the price of petrol….. €1.26 a litre is not on! Although I read somewhere last week that some of the city buses are to run on bio-fuel.

    #759346
    ewankennedy
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    @kite wrote:

    Is it the Dennehys site you refer to?, 2 bed apts. have been sold for 430,000 euro, ok value given the location. (this price includes a car park space)

    No kite I mean the site next to Top car motors. The prices go up to 695,000 euros for a 2 bedroom penthouse and around 420,000 for a standard 2 bedroom and prices dont include a parking space which are selling for 45,000 euros per space. It makes me wonder how long auctioneers and developers want the property market boom to last. Are they just trying to squeeze things for what they’re worth now cos they secretly not confident in the long term prospects of the market?? Of course thats dangerous talk. Seems to me that if they want the property boom to last longer a more restrained price approach would benefit all.

    #759347
    A-ha
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    @ewankennedy wrote:

    Prices dont include a parking space which are selling for 45,000 euros per space.

    I think I would prefer a holiday apartment in Budapest overlooking the Danube for that price. Don’t forget Census Day tomorrow, you’ll be arrested and given a life sentence if you don’t fill in that official governmental looking form that doesn’t cover half of what it should.

    #759348
    kite
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    @ewankennedy wrote:

    No kite I mean the site next to Top car motors. The prices go up to 695,000 euros for a 2 bedroom penthouse and around 420,000 for a standard 2 bedroom and prices dont include a parking space which are selling for 45,000 euros per space. It makes me wonder how long auctioneers and developers want the property market boom to last. Are they just trying to squeeze things for what they’re worth now cos they secretly not confident in the long term prospects of the market?? Of course thats dangerous talk. Seems to me that if they want the property boom to last longer a more restrained price approach would benefit all.

    Wow, 45k for a car space sounds OTT to me. I thought CCC had some policy against selling car spaces separately to Apts?, maybe i got that wrong.
    As for the property boom..reading the newspapers yesterday and being told of the % increase in 12 weeks in house prices is almost as unbelievable as reading that petrol could go to 5E per litre.

    #759349
    lexington
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    Cork City Council has indicated its intent to receive submissions by interested parties regarding the realisation of the South Docklands Local Area Plan currently under compilation by consultants DTZ Pieda. The plan is scheduled to be formalised later this year. The Cork Docklands covers an area of some 400-acres, of which the South Area, constitutes the primary bulk. The progress of Cork’s broader docklands area has had some, if limited success to date.

    North Docklands

    Beginning in the North – the docklands area formal may be said to start at Brian Boru Street and proceeding east. The first main site that strikes note here is the site under ownership (predominantly) by Paul Kenny. Mr. Kenny has employed Wilson Architecture in devising an exciting new office scheme at this location (fronting Saint Patrick’s Quay) – known as The Treasury (its progress has been well documented on this thread and its predecessor) which will proceed for construction within the next 4 to 5 months. The exciting design will be a strong selling point for the development which has already received much attention – it represents a strong example of how good design represents good investment.

    An interesting opportunity may exist for a further prospective development at the junction of Brian Boru Street and the Lower Glanmire Road at Clyde House – DFOD Consultants have initiated a move to new accommodation at the Shipton Group’s Blackpool Park – and the Irish Girl Guides may stand to benefit from new premises and a tidy cash injection. The site, though difficult to work on (given the need to maintain views running north-south to Summerhill and the Presbyterian Church), represents the gateway to the new North Docklands Quarter – concurrently, an argument can be made here for a landmark design to act as an appropriate entrance to the area. However, the cobble-stone paving adjoining Clyde House and refurbishment of the old rail corridor between the site and the Paul Kenny development will need to be utilised in some complimentary fashion.

    Moving east – Alfred Street will seek to be extended as part of the Manor Park Homebuilders (MPH) redevelopment of Horgan’s Quay. The street has found entrance points by the recently completed construction of Unity House by BrideView Developments and older but still interesting presence of Oppermann Associates’ design for Jack Lynch’s Siemens House – as part of Penrose Wharf. Kiosk Architects are handling an application by Finbar Gannon to vertically extend Saint Patrick’s House (fronting the Lower Glanmire Road). A steady progression in building heights (of up to 6-storeys) may be envisaged proceeding closer to Railway Street. A number of premises offer excellent redevelopment opportunities, not least the McCathy’s Motorpoint facility and former Johnson & Perrott used-vehicles centre which extends toward Penrose Quay frontage. A large 18,000sq ft site was purchased a number of months ago through Dominic Daly Auctioneers on the junction of Railway Street and Alfred Street for a reported €4 + million which may offer a strategically valuable redevelopment move – especially as part of a broader assembly. Heights and designs here will need to pay careful consideration to the Cork Steampacket Offices (protected structures) fronting Penrose Quay – which remains in itself a striking quayside structure (although some TLC wouldn’t go astray).

    Manor Park Homebuilders seem clear now, following recently reported finalisations on a 10-year equity deal with CIE, regarding Horgan’s Quay’s redevelopment. The long-delayed saga has been on-going for 8-years (longer according to some) – and has been beset by various interests. Discussions with Cork City Council remain on-going although an agreement is understood to have been reached regarding movement on an application – progress is hoped for by all concerned to see an application in the planning office by mid-year although some skeptics may challenge this prospect. O’Mahony Pike Architects have been employed to design the large scheme which will incorporate 1,300 new high density homes, retail facilities, new public areas, some office space, an extensive boardwalk and possible marina. The project will also see the construction of a new, reoriented railway terminal and ancillary bus facilities. MPH have expressed their hopes to see construction of buildings in the range between 4 and 14-storeys in height – however this was played down by CCC on formalisation of the NDLAP, so too were MPH’s retail ambitions for the 17-acre site (which may yet be re-evaluated). As for heights, the general aim by planners will be to retain within reason perspectives of Cork’s North Ridge – part of its unique topography. Room exists under the North Docklands Local Area Plan for at least 3 landmark building locations, which, subject to design may offer taller prospectives. Expectations on design are high and the sooner an application meets planning the better according to many. Options on the highly anticipated event centre, as noted in earlier posts, are understood to be under review with contact made with MPH from an interested party (hinted at previously by the local media in a December 2005 article as being Paul Montgomery).

    The McMahon-family controlled development agency Werdna Limited have been through the planning reels with their intentions for Water Street. Murray O’Laoire Architects have head the design here with the scheme’s well-documented 2nd incarnation fate soon to be known by An Bord Pleanala. An announcement long due. The project was granted at less than half its original scale by CCC in 2005, and ABP have since requested further revised drawings which were recently submitted and will see further alterations to the end-product. News on that very soon.

    South Docklands

    To date, schemes at No.6 Lapps Quay and CityQuarter have marked the most significant realised advances in the docklands area here. Howard Holdings’ have produced a strong scheme at Lapps Quay and have made their intentions on the rest of the docklands very clear with the acquisition of the former Ford site along Centre Park Road and co-operative arrangement with the Rehill-family regarding the Tedcastles site also along Centre Park Road. Closer to the city centre, Howard Holdings have just neared completion on a new WebWorks facility for Enterprise Ireland along Albert Quay – and acquired the east end of the same quay block from the Doyle Warehousing group. Options on the site are being advanced – Ascon are also understood to be addressing their holding. Theo Cullinane of Ascon had hinted that a planning application may be due on their (just) 0.5 acre Albert Quay site early this year, the outcome should be known soon.

    PJ Hegarty & Sons Ltd have commenced prep work on the highly-anticipated Eglinton Street scheme by O’Flynn Construction and designed by Wilson Architecture. The much applauded design will produced the city’s tallest building and has given hope to prospective opportunities in the south docklands further east.

    A major point of importance which the DTZ Pieda Masterplan will need to address is the establishment of building heights in the South Docklands. The need for clarity on this issue will be instrumental in dictating the progress of future development in the area. Eglinton Street has shown that the provision of well-designed taller structures have a future in Cork’s skyline – the extent of this will be guidelined by the masterplan. Although planners will be of the capacity to consider each project on an individual basis. The sooner such a framework is established, the better for progression.

    To date, significant schemes along Monahan’s Road by Niall Doris and SHUL Developers will aid the changing face of this area. Niall & Sheila Doris’ residential and business scheme for their Nat Ross site, designed by SDA O’Flynn, recently submitted revisions of a reduced scheme now peaking at 6-storeys (formerly 10-storeys). The scheme now has a greater presence onto the road and is due for a decision in early May. SHUL Developers are at an advanced stage of preplanning on a further 150,000sq ft of commercial/office provision on a 3-acre former coal-yard site near their Tellenganna House development (recently completed) – both are designed by Wilson Architecture. A further office scheme is mooted for another coal plot to the west of the SHUL proposal.

    Monahan’s Road has potential, and as outlined in the Cork Docklands Development Strategy 2001, to be the area’s primary residential location. However, in providing a healthy mix of uses, limited/conducive provisions should not be prohibited from areas elsewhere. The IAWS sites between Centre Park and Monahan’s Road offer a superb opportunity to provide a broad mixed-use community area with extensive public and resident amenity areas. Important here will by CCC’s job in broadening and developing recreational areas along the length of the crescent waterway (largely hidden) that runs adjacent to Monahan’s Road. This water feature, with possible wooden decking walkway, should be emphasised – and would offer a nice break between structures.

    McCarthy Developments have drawn up plans for a large scale redevelopment of its Centre Park House and Goldcrop/Advance Tyres site which links between both Centre Park and Monahan’s Roads (both of which will need significant tree-lined upgrading by CCC to facilitate and compliment the broader redevelopments). The 8-storey, 100,000sq ft office scheme designed by Murray O’Laoire – originally sought as a contender for Revenue Commissioner tenancy – is of ‘status unknown’. However McCarthy Developments have noted their intention for a further 250,000sq ft commercial development addition to the site as Part of Phase 2.

    The IAWS (R&H) site fronting Kennedy Quay has the opportunity to offer a significant public plaza/square orientated to address the quays and city centre, surrounded by a myriad of commercial and cultural functions. In my opinion, R&H Hall – with some modifications internally and externally, with a thoughtful lighting scheme at night, always offered the opportunity for a wonderful new central city library. A spectacular skylight could naturally illuminate the interior of the library by day while balconies wrapped around the interior rim walls in an ascending format (stacked with book shelving). By night, light projections could illuminate the skylight and penetrate the night sky.

    A number of the existing silos could make way for demolition (i.e Souther Milling) – while the Odlums building presents a superb opportunity for a considerate facade retention and vertical extension.

    The 80,000sq ft Southern Fruit site was privately purchased in 2004 and offers a wonderful waterfront development opportunity. It aligns a complex site in that of Gerry Wycherly’s Marina Commercial Park. It is understood ‘eyeing-up’ has taken place here – if only speculatively – the Park, at its water’s edge, juts out into the river ever so slightly and possesses a superb tall-building opportunity. However, the design will require a reflection of true landmark value. The Park also happens to have the advantage of a strategic location opposite the Water Street Bridge which will land to the south on Park grounds. CCC have indicated 2010 as its intended provision date for the controversial proposal. A spectacular design will need to justify its position.

    #759350
    -Donnacha-
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    OT I know, but very quickly …

    I continue to have the biting sensation that fossil fuel based power sources are not the way to go in this country. Sustainable alternatives like wind, tidal and geothermal to me continue to be the preferred option.

    Sustainable techs are undoubtedly the way forward (particularly once we get at least one functioning interconnector up and running) , but due to the small size of each project it takes time to get a lot of capacity on to the grid. And with the economic growth we’re seeing, we need several new power plants in the very near future (before 2010) and at least one of them has to be in the South if the Cork harbour area is to keep the current rate of growth in high end industry. Combined Cycle Gas Turbine plants are the most efficient power generators available, and, per unit generated, are significantly cheaper than wind right now, which is why the government has to subsidise wind power. Equally, and because of this, there is also a huge amount of wind power about to come on stream, to the effect that we’ll probably beat our 13.2% target by 2010. But to use this power, we need a matching amount of power from conventional plants, like this one. Its not a case of either or, we need both.

    Anyway, back to Cork …

    #759351
    lexington
    Participant

    ABP have approved plans by Howard Holdings to develop a new 102-bedroom hotel, with 8-apartment suites, double-deck basement car-parking, retail and boardwalk on Long Quay in Kinsale Town Centre. The hotel designed by Scott Tallon Walker is not clearly earmarked for any construction date yet but will provide a significant boost for the town when complete. The former mill site has seen a number of previous development attempts in the past including a 5-star hotel proposal by Cumnor Construction. More details soon.

    #759352
    Hafez
    Participant

    Hey, Just wondering is there any news on what’s happening with the Esso site on the Douglas road. It has been sitting there since before christmas without much work at all. Is it going to stay a petrol station or car garage or will it be changed into something residential. Hopefully not, it’s a prime location for a petrol station and did absolutely huge business!

    Also, Any news on Pc World and Currys coming to Mahon Point. And what’s happening with the new industrial type place built by Pizza Hut and KFC in Little Island.

    Cheers

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