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Speaking of Frinailla, after ironing out some financial issues with landowners, work has begun on the company’s Lady’s Well development in Blackpool. The majority of demolition work has been completed over the weekend and site testing/preperation work has begun. The company might find thinks though going, since the adjacent Garda Station was beset with huge problems in finding sufficient foundations on what was, surprise surprise, a water course!
Elsewhere in the area, work is complete on the brand spanking new Cork Archives Institute building on Great William O’Brien Street on the rear of the old fire station. Work is currently ongoing to transfer the often fragile and important archive holdings from the former archives building on South Main Street to the new facility- with specialists from the UK having been brought in for the task. The new facility will open to the public on Tuesday 25th April 2006.
The building sensitively deals with the site adjacent to Maddens Buildings (protected buildings). It remains to be seen what use CCC will put the old archives (Christ Church) to. Any ideas?More images later
😎 On March 13th, Reddy O’Riordan Staehli Architects submitted their second batch of Unsolicited Further Information to Cork City Council’s Planning Department following assessment of planner and submission concerns. The original project, submitted n August 2005 by the Crow’s Nest Partnership (Barry O’Connor and Robert Kennedy) sought to redevelop the fire-damaged Crow’s Nest pub and surrounding premises at Victoria Cross – including the MP Crowley and Victoria Terrace sites – with a 74-unit block generally 6-storeys but with a 15-storey tower fronting the Victoria Cross junction. The proposal was to be located over commercial units and a new bar/restaurant provision with dual-deck basement parking for 112 vehicles accessed of the Carrigrohane “Straight” Road.
Northern Elevation of the Original Redevelopment Plan.Following lodgement, 7 objections and 1 submission were marked on the original application. Now with the submission date for the Revised Plans closed – only 1 new objection was issued against the significantly reduced and amended scheme.
With a decision date due for May 1st 2006, the revised proposal has reduced its number of apartments by 20 to 54 (which comprise of a mix of 46x 2-bedroom and 8x 3-bedroom “family sized” units). Heights have been dropped by a full 5-floors to the tower element which now stands at 10-storeys and some reductions have also been afforded the main block which now stands at 5-storeys with a recessed portion. The tower, originally standing at 50.4 metres is now a more moderate height, roughly corresponding to the established heights set by Victoria Mills nearby, as it stands a small bit over 33 metres – this should reduce the impact on views to Cork County Hall and limit over-shadowing concerns. Basement car-parking has been up by just 1 space to 113 over 2-levels, again accessed from the Carrigrohane “Straight” Road. Designs on the commercial elements have also been somewhat rearticulated – the restaurant element is located over the ground-floor bar and possesses an attractive open-deck area with wrap-around balcony feature. The former seperation between tower and bulk apartment block has also been removed. Notably, the material finish has been altered – with a brighter finish to reflect its context more adequately. Tom Hegarty of RORSA was lead designer with McCutcheon Mulcahy acting as project Planning Consultants.
View of revised scheme from Victoria Cross with Cork County Hall in the background.
😉 I was going to note the Frinailla Victoria Cross update but kite beat me to it! :p
Northern Elevation of the Original Redevelopment Plan.
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Following lodgement, 7 objections and 1 submission were marked on the original application. Now with the submission date for the Revised Plans closed – only 1 new objection was issued against the significantly reduced and amended scheme.
😉 I was going to note the Frinailla Victoria Cross update but kite beat me to it! :p
[/QUOTE]🙁 Assistant Director of Planning Services AnnBogan has extended the date for further submissions to 13th April following a legal tussle with the CSD group who cried foul in relation to their rights under the P&D Act 2000
@kite wrote:
🙁 Assistant Director of Planning Services AnnBogan has extended the date for further submissions to 13th April following a legal tussle with the CSD group who cried foul in relation to their rights under the P&D Act 2000
thats rubbish…not your post, the action. they have no more rights than the next man on the street. the further information was printed in the press and given the same length of submission period as any other application. if the group werent quick enough off the mark to lodge a submission thats their own fault. maybe i should do the same everytime im late making a submission.
@pier39 wrote:
thats rubbish…not your post, the action. they have no more rights than the next man on the street. the further information was printed in the press and given the same length of submission period as any other application. if the group werent quick enough off the mark to lodge a submission thats their own fault. maybe i should do the same everytime im late making a submission.
:confused: I agree, my parents are living in Wilton and are on the CSDs mailing list. They showed me the letter CSD got from Ann Bogan (CSD emailed it to people on their list) it seems from what the letter said that the Planning Dept. agreed that the time limit was not what should have been allowed under the Planning Act.
The submission they made regarding the Bishopstown-Wilton Area Plan is posted on their website, these guys are really overstepping the mark. The submission can be found on http://www.corksouthwest.com@kite wrote:
:confused: I agree, my parents are living in Wilton and are on the CSDs mailing list. They showed me the letter CSD got from Ann Bogan (CSD emailed it to people on their list) it seems from what the letter said that the Planning Dept. agreed that the time limit was not what should have been allowed under the Planning Act.
The submission they made regarding the Bishopstown-Wilton Area Plan is posted on their website, these guys are really overstepping the mark.id hardly give them that much credit. what the seem not to understand is planning applications made prior to their motions and bishopstown area plan have to be considered with respect to the time of their planning lodgement. if a new plan or motion is proposed in the time following it has no legal grounds. their complaints on the dennehys cross plan being granted are invalid. the application came before their illegal motion.
I was going to say this is just another half-arsed design but I quite like it now. I was thinking something more striking would be better in that area but this does fit nicely with county hall. It’s a bit too boxy and boring but if it wasn’t tthen maybe it would have clashed too much. I also think it looks better with the reduced height. I’ve nothing against tall buildings (in fact I love them) but I’d hate to see county hall’s stand-alone look go.
I’m still waiting until we get a sexy 20-storey tower for the docklands. It’ll have to be something with curves, not square shaped. I’m thinking something along Paul Kenny’s The Treasury but in tower form 😀
@malec wrote:
I was going to say this is just another half-arsed design but I quite like it now. I was thinking something more striking would be better in that area but this does fit nicely with county hall. It’s a bit too boxy and boring but if it wasn’t tthen maybe it would have clashed too much. I also think it looks better with the reduced height. I’ve nothing against tall buildings (in fact I love them) but I’d hate to see county hall’s stand-alone look go.
I don’t like the Crow’s Nest development. It’s far too boxy, it doesn’t really make enough of its location and, on this occasion at least, I’d much rather see what is already there refurbished and left as is. This new development will destroy the ‘standalone’ nature of County Hall when viewed from Western Road and Mardyke.
I think it actually looks alright, as was said earlier a sleeker design would be too much in contrast with county hall and actually take from the standalone nature of it. To me there is a continental style (maybe that’s just the clear blue sky;) ) to the design, alright a bit boxy but not bad!
@malec wrote:
I was going to say this is just another half-arsed design but I quite like it now. I was thinking something more striking would be better in that area but this does fit nicely with county hall. It’s a bit too boxy and boring but if it wasn’t tthen maybe it would have clashed too much. I also think it looks better with the reduced height. I’ve nothing against tall buildings (in fact I love them) but I’d hate to see county hall’s stand-alone look go.
I’m still waiting until we get a sexy 20-storey tower for the docklands. It’ll have to be something with curves, not square shaped. I’m thinking something along Paul Kenny’s The Treasury but in tower form 😀
Though I think it is an improvement on the original, its still to boxy and just so bland it makes me sleepy. A curve glazed feature from the ground up, to accentuate the corner, wouldn’t go astray. The sharp edges could be retained by a central glazed feature would at least jazz the tower up a bit. Th height and new materials seem much more attractive…from a distance I don’t think this will impact County Hall too much but from Victoria Cross it would probably limit views big time. I can’t make up my mind on this one…which probably says it all really. I have a feeling people will cite this scheme as another one to add to their arsenal of stupid anti-highrise slurs.
As for docklands tall buildings, I agree that design teams should start thinking outside the lines and embrace some subtle (or not so subtle) curves and twists to buzz up future high-rise proposals. Tall buildings in the docklands should make a statement. It should be a case of design influence versus restrictive requirements. And by that I mean more Turning Torsos, Il Curvo and Swiss Re buildings and less Santry Cross and Sunbeams.
Any One Know Whats Happening With O Sheas Site Farranlea Road, Rumour Machine Says It Has Been Sold To A Kerry Building Group.
The only reason I said it was OK is because it blends nicely with county hall, other than that it’s very average.
John Paul Construction are steaming ahead with Frinailla’s CitySquare (Lady’s Well) development along the Watercourse Road in Blackpool. With extensive demolition works underway, joint agents FML and Global Properties are scheduled to shortly release the first wave of residential units – with names currently being taken for interested parties. The mixed-scheme will seek to inject new life into an old and worn-out part of Blackpool with Kiosk Architect’s design rising from the ground (well…basement car-park) over the months ahead. Well over 100 mixed apartment units and a range of community and commercial units will be made available on realisation of the project.
Meanwhile, not far away, Ascon Rohcon are expected to start moving on some works at Susie’s Field, off Assumption Road and the Blackpool By-Pass over the next few weeks, for the provision of the new Revenue Commissioners offices titled Linn Dubh. The Jack Coughlan Associates designed scheme, first championed by Frank Sheahan & Joe Carey, will provide over 13,511sq m of office space over 397 space basement car-park (over 2 levels) and is scheduled to be ready for occupation in late 2007. Meanwhile, options on the future of Government Buildings at Sullivans Quay are being drawn up with details hoping to be released later this year.
*UPDATES*😎 A 54-unit apartment scheme near Douglas is scheduled to be submitted for planning in the coming days with Patrick A. Cashman & Associates leading the design on the scheme, destined for Castletreasure. Mr. T. O’Connor hopes to realise 3x 3-storey apartment buildings with units between the blocks divided 17, 22 and 15 format.
😎 Scott Tallon Walker Architects have applied to CCC with the intention of providing a mixed-scheme for Saint Patrick’s Place along Wellington Road in the city centre. The firm are seek the part demolition , redevelopment and extension to existing Victorian terrace (including remodelling of former Cork Grammar School) all on a 0.08 hectare site. The proposed development comprising of four storeys over lower ground floor and basement includes 10 no. apartments, 653.26 sq. m of office space and 308.27 sq. m of commercial showrooms at street level. The development will also include basemnet parking, individual apartment stores, plant landscaping, terrace areas and all associated site works.
@pier39 wrote:
id hardly give them that much credit. what the seem not to understand is planning applications made prior to their motions and bishopstown area plan have to be considered with respect to the time of their planning lodgement. if a new plan or motion is proposed in the time following it has no legal grounds. their complaints on the dennehys cross plan being granted are invalid. the application came before their illegal motion.
🙁 Tonights Echo reports that Cllr. Bermingham FG. PD, or whatever banner he now goes under has joined the growing list of anti high rise muppets, a question to J.Gavin (city manager) for next weeks CCC meeting will demand he puts the height cap in place.
Its all very well saying not to give the csd any credit but they are getting councilors on board on a daily basis and getting money from the likes of my parents who live in the area despite my objections to them.Is it time that those of us who support balanced, well designed and necessary highrise developments in suitable locations around the city formed some sort of group in opposition to these ludicrous motions being proposed? They are being proposed and supported because the individuals involved believe there are votes and public support to be won by doing so. It must be time that those who oppose such motions made their feelings known in some way?
Outright bans never work
unfortunately many politicians have realised that nimby = votes and some very ill considered positions emerge as a result. Whilst not all areas are suitable for even mid-rise buildings other locations are very well suited to tall buildings such as the docklands.
@Thomond Park wrote:
Outright bans never work
unfortunately many politicians have realised that nimby = votes and some very ill considered positions emerge as a result. Whilst not all areas are suitable for even mid-rise buildings other locations are very well suited to tall buildings such as the docklands.
😎 Right on the button Thomond Park, hopefully CCC will come out with a well balanced suitable plan for the docklands.
If CCC admitted that they made a HUGE mistake in giving the likes of the Victoria Mills permission it would take a lot of steam out of this whole anti rise thing. Unfortunately CCC insistance in describing VM as a “landmark gateway” building is only adding fuel to the fire!!
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