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Ireland’s first major crematorium outside Dublin is to be built in Cork – at Rocky Island in Cork harbour at a former British navy arsenal. The €2.5m crematorium was approved by ABP yesterday folleowing Cork County Council’s earlier decision to approve the development.
Strikemount Ltd. will build the facility to cater for the demand in Munster for cremations, which, until now, had to go to Dublin. The island is linked to the mainland by a bridge from a spot close to where Indaver are building their toxic waste incinerator. It is linked to Haulbowline Island by another bridge. Part of Haulbowline is currenly being decommisioned and cleaned up after years of industrial use- as Irish Steel. The other part of the Island houses the headquarters of the Irish Navy.According to the Examiner yesterday, Paul Kenny’s Patrick’s Quay development has been greenlit by an Bord Pleanála. Surprised there’s been no reaction here…Opinions??
Did J.Dennehy really say that? Is it in any of the papers?
Its in today’s Irish Times (17/2/06).
Just jockying for position for nominations to run in the next GE. Its a competition for who can look like the greatest gombeen.
@lexington wrote:
*UPDATES* (8/2/2006)
😀 Paul Kenny’s The Treasury development originally intended for Revenue Commissioner contention, has been successful through the appeal process. The project was appealed on both a 1st Party (regarding contribution fees) and 3rd Party Basis (by Bell Scott Engineering & McLaughlins). The project was granted by the Bord (ABP) subject to reductions in height which involved the removal of the entire 4th floor at Block One (the south facing Patrick’s Quay section – although this will not affect the dramatic curved facade) and the removal of the 5th floor of Block Two (which backs onto the Lower Glanmire Road to the north). The floorspace of the approx. 12,000sq m office and retail project has been markedly reduced. Parking, in line with CCC implemented conditions, restraints at 150 basement spaces. Though the Wilson Architecture project lost out on the Revenue Commissioners bid, favourable market conditions leave the option open for Mr. Kenny to proceed with the development should he so wish at some future stage. The former Kirwan lot on the corner of Ship Street and Patrick’s Quay (which forms part of the subject site) is currently up for lease, this would suggest that development plans are likely to be put on hold for the interm.
Here you go phatman.
Sorry, I have lost touch a bit with this thread, and also seem to have forgotten how ahead of things we can be round here. And how behind things the Examiner can be.:D
@phatman wrote:
According to the Examiner yesterday, Paul Kenny’s Patrick’s Quay development has been greenlit by an Bord Pleanála. Surprised there’s been no reaction here…Opinions??
I’m actually a little surprised it got through, and mostly unscathed at that. I think it’s a stunning development, but it’s very tall, and likely to block views of the church behind it. Methinks there might still be a few groans and whines once people see it go up.
@who_me wrote:
I’m actually a little surprised it got through, and mostly unscathed at that. I think it’s a stunning development, but it’s very tall, and likely to block views of the church behind it. Methinks there might still be a few groans and whines once people see it go up.
IF…….it goes up. And I really hope it does. Can you imagine driving along the quays and seeing this beauty all lit up at night. It’s interesting Mr Kenny carried this project the whole way through appeal despite losing out on the Revenue plan. It suggests he’s keeping his options open.
Yeah…I’m so glad it has been greenlit, it should make such a lovely addition to the area, as you said POM, especially at night. Can’t wait to see the pics. of Academy Street and I really like what I see in the Good Shepherd Convent, even more so with the BMW parked outside the front door, it looks so classy. Can I ask what’s happening with the Hilton Hotel supposed to be built in Mahon Point? When is it due to open… or even be built?
@who_me wrote:
I’m actually a little surprised it got through, and mostly unscathed at that. I think it’s a stunning development, but it’s very tall, and likely to block views of the church behind it. Methinks there might still be a few groans and whines once people see it go up.
That actually is the one reservation I have about the development, the effect on the view to the church behind.
It mightn’t be an issue looking across from Parnell Place, but further down the quay past the bus station will unfortunately lose part of that lovely view of the ridge. But I’m still optimistic about the development, should be a striking addition to the riverscape, and it is as sensitive a design as I could have hoped for, at least facing the river. Any images of the Lower Glanmire Road persepective?Regarding The Good Shepherd Convent,
I’d like to see how the new buildings relate to the old ones from a distance, e.g. Mardyke Walk or UCC campus. The new developemnt looks nice and stylish- it’s is their positioning with respect to the Convent buildings themselves which will be the important factor.@Radioactiveman wrote:
Regarding The Good Shepherd Convent,
I’d like to see how the new buildings relate to the old ones from a distance, e.g. Mardyke Walk or UCC campus. The new developemnt looks nice and stylish- it’s is their positioning with respect to the Convent buildings themselves which will be the important factor.The views you suggest would be a factor. The design looks great to me..so much better than the albeit acceptable design of Friniallas proposal for Dennehy’s Cross. Are the same architects involved in both?
Just on the academy street project.
The lane that goes between Emmets place and patrick street, I really hope they do a similar job on this like the 2 lanes leading onto Paul Street. Could see this lane being transformed into another restaurant/ pub hub in the city. Mix it in as part of the Hugenot quarter too.
@kite wrote:
The views you suggest would be a factor. The design looks great to me..so much better than the albeit acceptable design of Friniallas proposal for Dennehy’s Cross. Are the same architects involved in both?
I dont know if I would say that. I personally feel the Dennehys Cross design looks very well. Its sharp angular profile looks most well, very defined. The Sherphers convent look seems very slight. I would have reservations about the wooden finish. If its a case of the timber greying or discolouring in the most awful manner like that thing next to Dunnes in Bishopstown i would stress for some sort of condition to maintain its upkeep.
BTW, anyone know anything else about the proposed redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel.
I saw a picture earlier on in this thread of doing a huge redevelopment, taking in other buildings with a frontage on patricks quay.
Talking of the Metropole, I wouldn’t mind seeing some sort of plan for McCurtain street.
At the moment it has one hotel, a theatre, a few restaurants and a nice few pubs. SOme beautiful buildings there too. the building housing isaacs restaurant is nice, (the back with the waterfall is very classy).
Pity though that the street is left down by that awfully ugly Zanussi building beside Isaacs, not to mention the general seediness added by Cash Converters and the sex shop bang in the middle of the street.
@Micko wrote:
Talking of the Metropole, I wouldn’t mind seeing some sort of plan for McCurtain street.
At the moment it has one hotel, a theatre, a few restaurants and a nice few pubs. SOme beautiful buildings there too. the building housing isaacs restaurant is nice, (the back with the waterfall is very classy).
Pity though that the street is left down by that awfully ugly Zanussi building beside Isaacs, not to mention the general seediness added by Cash Converters and the sex shop bang in the middle of the street.
Indeed that Zanussi Building is fair bad. Downgrades one of the most splendid city centre streets. Another street that needs serious addressing is the lower end of Oliver Plunkett Street, behind the Clarion. The paving is ridden with potholes, it is dirty, unkempt and a favourite for antisocial behaviour. It takes what is suppose to be and will be Corks new business district down a few notches. The city council should seriously look into it fast.
I mention that above as I was travelling the streets of Cork today. A couple of things struck me like the emerging shape of the second phase of Camden Court there on Carrolls Quay. I think pics are posted of it earlier in this thread. Though still shrouded in scaffolding already it is turning out to be one of Corks better and most striking apartment buildings. I can’t wait to see the finished product as it looks very impressive. More of this please.
I noticed that the rooftops of 21 Lavitts Quay are the latest haunt for the crowds of seagulls in and around the Lee. Any chance we’ll see Owen O’Callaghan out sometime soon with a rope, harness and a power hose in hand to rectify the consequences of hosting such visitors??? 🙂 A tidy up may be due.
Good to see this thread with a bit of life in it again.
@altuistic wrote:
I dont know if I would say that. I personally feel the Dennehys Cross design looks very well. Its sharp angular profile looks most well, very defined. The Sherphers convent look seems very slight. I would have reservations about the wooden finish. If its a case of the timber greying or discolouring in the most awful manner like that thing next to Dunnes in Bishopstown i would stress for some sort of condition to maintain its upkeep.
:confused: I take your point about that shambles next to Dunnes in Bishopstown, the reason that type of cladding was allowed at the time is that it would be maintainance free..bleech with the sun ect.ect…how wrong can you be?
For Joe Gavin to call this one of the “finest” buildings in Cork says a lot?.. anybody got photos of Galway when this gent was running that town?Sorry for the edit, no photos, but thanks to Kevin for the following newspaper articles…
Spiralling costs and no end in sight to the Eyre Square nightmare
The Irish Times“Fallujah square”, as Galway’s city centre is sometimes called these days, has been dogged by controversy since plans for its latest redesign were presented to city councillors in January 1999. As one angry businessman remarked yesterday, the siege-like sandbags around its 17th century Browne doorway in the middle of the square,”say it all”. A local councillor has remarked that the Eiffel Tower in Paris was built at a faster rate. At the time, former city manager Joe Gavin was very enthusiastic about transforming Galway’s city centre, which was once a medieval jousting ground and market, hosted US president John F. Kennedy’s historic visit, and was last redesigned in the 1960s. The distinctive limestone figure of writer P
@POM wrote:
Saw this in the planning office a while back, its a funny scheme, I’m not quite sure about how its laid out. As a proposal in itself it seems like it could be very good for Blackpool. Design wise it is perhaps a little blocky and there is room for a little more flair. Usually Richard Rainey produce pretty quality stuff and I suppose I was a little let down by the results on this project. I think a landmark tower would go down well at this location but the way it’s proposed in this scheme is baffling, I don’t understand the proposed axis or orientation of the tower and its form is unsuited. At the very least, I would have thought the tower should be orientated facing the Mallow Road as it approaches the valley north to south. The tower is oval shaped and would be far more striking were in a taller, narrower, sleeker structure. In order to accentuate its nature, I would have suggest the lowering in heights of the surrounding blocks and the increase in tower height by at least 2 to 3 further storeys, it should lose the balconies and perhaps replace them with glazed features to give the tower a sleeker look. As proposed the tower was utterly lost in the overall bulk of the scheme.
any chance you could get these pics up?anyone have contact detils for the planning office,are they allowed send you out planning applications?
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