developments in cork
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We deserve the Cllr’s we have…after all we elected them! The problem is that local politics is seen as nothing more than a talking shop or a stepping stone for election to higher office. So common sense and rational argument tends to be relegated in favour of overblown hyperbole designed to bloat their egos and gain the maximum of newsprint. The amount of hot air generated by these Cllr’s could be the answer to the international energy shortage..and eco-friendly too:)
POM wrote:I am of the same frame of mind about our councillors but its not just Jerry Buttimer…and I think people posting such perhaps watch their choice of wording when expressing disappointment at their public representatives.Point taken. But good old Jerry buttimer was on the bandwagon again yesterday according to todays Examiner, supporting art students (a good cause im sure) along with Sinn Fein and GP. Anything to get his name in print?
I notice that “industrial units” are now being advertised for lease at a Watercourse Road site which was at the centre (literally and geographically) of a recent planning saga. This site had been a pivotal part of Frinailla’s City Quarter/Lady’s Well development (for which they recieved permission prior to Christmas) after a lenghty planning process at CCC and ABP level.
ABP ruled that a large central block of apartments be omitted from the plans and granted permission for the remainder. It is thought that this loss of residential space has impacted financially on the deal between the site owner and the development company. It is speculated that this will have an impact on the timeframe within which work can begin. CCC has recently advertised that Alinett’s Lane (which runs through the site) will be closed from next month to August 2007 to allow construction to take place.
As people might be aware, the shortlist has been drawn up for the ART BOX competition orgainised by Cork City Council and administered by RIAI.
The competition aims to create a mobile performance and exhibition space. As a space The Art Box will be used for a range of different events. These would include:
Film Screenings,Art Exhibitions, both installations and hung art work, Lectures, Performances, ranging from theatre, recitals, cabaret to dance, Public Meeting space, Festival Club or meeting point or Workshop space.Shortlist:
Entry no. 9 – White Table / Price + Myers 3D Engineering, London
Entry no. 36 – O’Mahony Pike Architects, Cork
Entry no. 52 – Murray O’Laoire Architects, Limerick
Entry no. 60 – eldridge Smerin, London
Entry no. 67 – Peter Feeny Architects & 3P.Urban.Process, LondonFinal results are due in early Feb.
Here’s 2 questions…are we EVER going to see Horgans quay get a move on? And is Grand parade plaza ever going to begin construction??
Radioactiveman wrote:I notice that “industrial units” are now being advertised for lease at a Watercourse Road site which was at the centre (literally and geographically) of a recent planning saga. This site had been a pivotal part of Frinailla’s City Quarter/Lady’s Well development (for which they recieved permission prior to Christmas) after a lenghty planning process at CCC and ABP level.
ABP ruled that a large central block of apartments be omitted from the plans and granted permission for the remainder. It is thought that this loss of residential space has impacted financially on the deal between the site owner and the development company. It is speculated that this will have an impact on the timeframe within which work can begin. CCC has recently advertised that Alinett’s Lane (which runs through the site) will be closed from next month to August 2007 to allow construction to take place.:confused: Is that area zoned for industrial use given that CCC are due to vote to rezone land in Churchfield to allow lidl to build a supermarket on land zoned for industry?
Horgan’s Quay
Last June if I remember correctly Martin Cullen announced the government had approved the redevelopment of Horgans Quay with Manor Park Homes. The press statement noted that an application was now ready to enter planning. Nearly 7 months later and nothing. As for tweaking the project out, in fairness, they’ve had 8 years to do it…is this just yet another political hush ’em up? How many more months/years do we have to wait for a project that is already long overdue and will undoubtedly take a long time to great through planning let alone construction??? It seems a constant frustration.
@Saucy Jack wrote:
Its all political attention seeking and image enhancing behaviour.Total gimp unworthy of any votes – EVER.
We’ll see him go very quiet when Bishopstown G.A.A. and Highfield come up for development in the next few years.Total nonsense as ever in todays Irish Examiner fron Fine Gaels Mr.Buttimer.On the subject of Highfield RFC and Bishopstown GAA, has anyone updates on how far advanced plans are to relocate both to Cork County?;)
Reports today suggest that the Office of Public Works (OPW) is about to commission a study into the flood risk posed to Cork City and harbour areas in the future. The study, which is expected to be completed during 2007, is also due to suggest a variety of work which may be done to ameliorate this problem.
One source suggests that a ‘Thames Barrier’ type structure may have to be built at Roches’ Point to adequately protect the city from flood damage in the future.
Thames barrier@POM wrote:
Anyone hear how John Cleary got on today for his Mahon office building??
Think it got planning but they knocked 2 floors off it. It was 5 storeys now its 3. About 8000sq m or something from 13,000sq m, not sure.
@Radioactiveman wrote:
One source suggests that a ‘Thames Barrier’ type structure may have to be built at Roches’ Point to adequately protect the city from flood damage in the future.
I remember speculating about such a system last year on this very board. Although I envisaged it being a smaller affair located at the end of the city quays to maintain a constant water level in the city for both aesthetic and flood prevention reasons.
It will be a problem that will have to faced in time to come as the sea level rises due to global warming etc.
Anyone have any ideas on who will out of the homegrown boys be a big docklands player?? I mean theres a limited amount of land there and i know Howards and Flemings have all indicated their interest big time but what about the likes of O’Flynn construction and the Loves and such. I thought theyd be well in there for a large docklands masterplan. It so far seems to be ruled by outsiders like Manor park and the Werdna and Nat Ross…??
According to RTE, the Mardyke pedestrian bridge has finally been opened today
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0201/cork.html
Is this for everyone to use now, or was this just a formal opening with the bridge still restricted to UCC staff and students?
Here’s an image of the new Mardyke bridge:
also, here’s an image of the FIRST official ‘opening’ of the bridge on 17th June 2005!!!!
Former Lord Mayor Sean Martin is there with the usual gang, blatantly codding us by suggesting that the bridge was in fact open to the public!
The first time the public got near the new bridge was when it was opened to UCC students and staff on the 11th of January 2006! Today’s opening (phase two) allows the public to continue through Distillery Field to the North Mall. Unfortunately, as of ten minutes ago, phase two of the walkway was once again closed to the public!! Genius, sheer f***king genius!!
The phantom ‘opening’If you want to see a nice aerial view of the new walkway and bridge, click here.
If you want to see a map of the new walkway and bridge, click here.
And to see the FIRST official ‘opening’ in all its glory, click here.
It seems there may be a reappraisal on the cards with regard to the Crows Nest proposal.
All aspects of the proposed development are being looked into, viability (due to the amount of unsold apartments in the area), planning headaches (residents, CSD ect) and the appetite for such developments from the new director of planning.
It looks like the 15 storey landmark building may not go ahead.
It may just reopen as a pub-restaurant as before.
Pity Lex is gone so quite, he was always able to give a ya or na to such rumours with great accuracy.Today’s Cork Independent reports that a motion to go before CCC calling for a light rail system from the airport to the city centre from Cllr.Dave McCarthy (Fianna Fail) drew sniggers from other councilors.
These begrudgers should put up or shut up. Most of us would disagree with Cllr.McCarthy’s support of the recent vote on the height cap but it is this type of “dogged can do attitude” that is sadly lacking in other politicians (local and national)The Taoiseach said of Cllr.McCarthy when he was Lord Mayor of Cork that the first phone call he received every morning was from McCarthy asking for money for Cork, this is evident all over the Northside of the city where the best sporting and leisure facilities in Ireland are found.
Love him or hate him, one has to say, that guys got balls.Yeah, saw a little bit about that in the Echo on Tuesday. It’s a shame the councillors are so small thinking that he got sniggered at. Try and think outside the box! You’d think the Lord Mayor would agree with him, she is very big into the airport development. Was at the airport the other day, it looks really well. It’s very glam and I like that it’s all lit up and bright… it can be seen from the runway at night…. not like the tinted glass thing that’s there at the moment. It looks really futuristic. Also, the Kinsale Road flyover looks well, and looks to be on schedule? When is it due for completion?? Oh and for anyone that didn’t see the Echo on Tuesday, it also said that the toll for cars on the Fermoy by-pass will be €1.60…. I don’t care what they do as long as they don’t toll the tunnel!
@A-ha wrote:
Yeah, saw a little bit about that in the Echo on Tuesday. It’s a shame the councillors are so small thinking that he got sniggered at. Try and think outside the box! You’d think the Lord Mayor would agree with him, she is very big into the airport development. Was at the airport the other day, it looks really well. It’s very glam and I like that it’s all lit up and bright… it can be seen from the runway at night…. not like the tinted glass thing that’s there at the moment. It looks really futuristic. Also, the Kinsale Road flyover looks well, and looks to be on schedule? When is it due for completion?? Oh and for anyone that didn’t see the Echo on Tuesday, it also said that the toll for cars on the Fermoy by-pass will be €1.60…. I don’t care what they do as long as they don’t toll the tunnel!
😡 Like you say, “small minded”..no wonder Cork is way behind development wise.Some of these snigger buggers must think that we are not entitled to a modern city.
I wonder do Werda Ltd. (hope that spelling is correct) regret trying to break into the Cork market (Water St.) taking on the big wigs in the city with all the nods and winks that makes our world in Cork go round??Great greetings to you Archiseek members! It’s wonderful to see that Cork has its very own vibrant and even controversial!! thread, particularly one that provides architectural discourse within a broader political and developmental context.
To add twopence to the current topic: Recently passing through the gothic-nightmare-otherworld of Charles de Gaulle airport I was saddened to note that all commuters were forced to pay slightly extortionate (by metro standards) fares to and from the city. Travel tax? Airport cash-cow? It is unfortunate that this is one of the first impressions given to visitors.
Similarly, I was embarrassed when asked by a relative visiting Cork whether a bus sevice operated from the airport- yes a sort of half time service? not in the evenings? once every? get a taxi? Whether a bus service or a light rail service or a skytrain or a space shuttle an effective regular and economical public transport service would repay itself hundred-fold, in my opinion, because of the first impression it would provide to visitors of a modern accessible humanist city, and the ensuent millions of new visitors attracted “in cork sure theres a feckin space shuttle that takes you from the airport into the the snug in the long valley” they’d tell their friends.
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