developments in cork
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- January 8, 2006 at 10:07 pm #758813
ewankennedy
Participant@orion wrote:
In reference to Esso site sales in Cork ,I have heard Paul Montogermie paid under 6 million for the Western Road site.Derek Tynan a.k.a Victoria Mills is finalising plans but planners not happy for this site to achieve same height as Jury Hotel, as its on other side of river!
Does any one know plans for Douglas and Wilton (Esso Site) and who bought them?’Think Derek Tynan architects will deliver on this site?? Its a prominent location and will need a sensitive design…or is it another Crosses green hotel on the way? I liked the use of black limestone on the hotel but the design was utterly awful. Am I getting my hopes up too high?
January 9, 2006 at 4:31 pm #758814who_me
Participant@anto wrote:
If the Cork docklands are to become an extension of the city centre then development should be urban in form, i.e. there should be streets, squares etc. This building while quite dramatic seems to be set in a business park/campus setting. Green space can be incoporated in the form of parks or a linear park with cycle ways along the river bank. The docklands needs to be developed in a high density manner if things like light rail linking it to the city centre are feasible.
True, though this is at the Eastern end of the South Docklands area, where it borders the attractive Marina/Atlantic Pond area. I think a project such as this would blend nicely between the urban dockland setting and the quiet, recreational Atlantic Pond.
January 9, 2006 at 4:57 pm #758815Radioactiveman
ParticipantHere’s a few questions, maybe somebody can help me with:
1. Does anybody have images of the proposed development by Rothbury Estates at the former Sunbeam site in Blackpool?
2. What is the current state of play with St. Nicholas’ Church near the Revenue Building on Sullivan’s Quay? Does UCC still own it? If so, what is it used for?
Thanks.
January 9, 2006 at 11:08 pm #758816ewankennedy
ParticipantSaw the Rothbury thing. Don’t get in a panic its nothing amazing…still dont understand why they put the tower where they did.
January 10, 2006 at 10:51 am #758817-Donnacha-
Participantre; rothbury sunbeam application. saw that also – have to agree with ewankennedy – the location of the tower element seems completely random, and looks lost in respect of everything else on the site – the whole thing looks a bit of a mess to be honest. no real logic either in the choice of an oval shaped building for the corner of the site or the positioning of that oval shaped building in a north-south axis?
January 10, 2006 at 1:31 pm #758818POM
Participant@kite wrote:
🙁 I agree, but some are saying that “doolally” was the cause of a senior member of the city planning team being removed “fired” from his job in the past few weeks…What damage will more DOOLALLY do if left unchecked?
Oh be careful there kite, we dont want the Irish Examiner accusing us of ‘prompting’ more rumours i.e. last Thursday.
January 10, 2006 at 2:52 pm #758819James Furlong
ParticipantNo news for us lexington? Your very quiet these days. Read something today in the paper about the showgrounds? Any details.? Keep up the good work, this is a very good website.
James Furlong
January 10, 2006 at 3:06 pm #758820Saucy Jack
Participant@James Furlong wrote:
No news for us lexington? Your very quiet these days. Read something today in the paper about the showgrounds? Any details.? Keep up the good work, this is a very good website.
James Furlong
Very strange that Lex is’nt about these days – Skiing I hope !
January 10, 2006 at 4:37 pm #758821tomthevet2003
ParticipantHas anybody any news on the Academy Street Development – I though planning permission would have been applied for at this stage:rolleyes:
January 10, 2006 at 5:04 pm #758822Radioactiveman
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Fleming Construction have offered to build a new 6,000- 10,000 seat events arena similar to the Odyssey in Belfast as a new home for the Munster Agricultural society, currently located adjacent to Pairc Ui Caoimh. Thats according to a report in today’s Irish Examiner by Tommy Barker.
The multi purpose arena would be built at Curraheen, off the Ballincollig bypass and would be swapped for the Society’s 22 acres at the Marina. Fleming had bought 126 acres in curraheen last year, zoned amenity.
According to the report, the development at Curraheen would include:
6,000 elevated seats
Extra seating at floor level
Restaurants
Bars
A floodlit outdoor arena
Show rings
stables
Car parking.Yesterday, Jope Gavin re-affirmed his view that adjacent to Kent Station was the best location for an events centre in Cork. and said that the council was strongly opposed to green spaces and sporting facilities being handed over for development. The council is Landlord of the Marina site, which is leased to the Society.
Read the article here.
January 10, 2006 at 5:59 pm #758823kite
Participant@POM wrote:
Oh be careful there kite, we dont want the Irish Examiner accusing us of ‘prompting’ more rumours i.e. last Thursday.
😉 Point taken, would not want the messengers shot…
January 10, 2006 at 6:48 pm #758824Leigh Teabing
Participant2. What is the current state of play with St. Nicholas’ Church near the Revenue Building on Sullivan’s Quay? Does UCC still own it? If so, what is it used for?
I think it is owned Barry Supple and is to be occupied by Probation Officers & Parole Officers working on behalf of the OPW.
January 11, 2006 at 9:35 am #758825kite
Participant@Saucy Jack wrote:
Very strange that Lex is’nt about these days – Skiing I hope !
:confused: I think Lex may have moved many of his GREAT posts to….http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054862371&page=2
January 11, 2006 at 11:23 am #758826PTB
ParticipantWhat on earth is all that about?
January 11, 2006 at 2:23 pm #758827Radioactiveman
ParticipantYes, I’m not sure what has happened to Lexington these days, but I’m sure he’ll let us know in his own good time!!

Cork City Council have opened (for UCC students and staff) the first phase
of the walkway which runs from the Mardyke to the western boundary of the
UCCMercy University Hospital (MUH) lands at the North Mall. UCC has
constructed a connecting link walkway which provides access to their North
Mall Campus.
The overall project when completed by City Council (expected end January)
will extend the entire length of the riverbank through the jointly owned
lands and terminate at the entrance gates to the North Mall adjacent to
Distillery House. This is being facilitated through close co-operation
and land transfers between the University, Cork City Council and Mercy
University Hospital.
The walkway is a key part of teh UCC physical master plan and will provide
easy pedestrian access to current and future developments at the North
Mall.
The City Council have committed to providing public lighting on the
pathway which will be installed in the coming months.A map of the walkway is located here.
January 11, 2006 at 3:14 pm #758828Leesider
Participantquestion for you radioactiveman, where did you get the above image? Would be very interested in seeing similar quality photos for the rest of the city
Strange that Lex is using a different forum, but at least he hasn’t stopped altogether
January 11, 2006 at 3:17 pm #758829anto
Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
Yes, I’m not sure what has happened to Lexington these days, but I’m sure he’ll let us know in his own good time!!

Cork City Council have opened (for UCC students and staff) the first phase
of the walkway which runs from the Mardyke to the western boundary of the
UCCMercy University Hospital (MUH) lands at the North Mall. UCC has
constructed a connecting link walkway which provides access to their North
Mall Campus.
The overall project when completed by City Council (expected end January)
will extend the entire length of the riverbank through the jointly owned
lands and terminate at the entrance gates to the North Mall adjacent to
Distillery House. This is being facilitated through close co-operation
and land transfers between the University, Cork City Council and Mercy
University Hospital.
The walkway is a key part of teh UCC physical master plan and will provide
easy pedestrian access to current and future developments at the North
Mall.
The City Council have committed to providing public lighting on the
pathway which will be installed in the coming months.A map of the walkway is located here.
Wow, That sounds great! I used to work near there and often wished there was river walk that linked the city to FitzGearld Park and or the Lee Fields. It’s a lovely part of the City. Hopefully people will respect it and not liiter/leave beer cans etc. Hopefully!!
Well done to all concerned!
Great Picture Radioactiveman!
January 11, 2006 at 6:53 pm #758830POM
ParticipantInteresting in that picture Radioactiveman that you can see the Good Shepherd Convent in the background. I believe there is an application for a new upmarket housing project on that site soon.
January 11, 2006 at 7:03 pm #758831Radioactiveman
ParticipantYes, Frinailla now own the Good Shephards, after a disasterous fire which ruined the central section some years ago. I believe movement on this site is imminent, with high quality residential use being the core feature.
Note, credit is due to UCC buildings and estates office for the aerial photograph above.
January 12, 2006 at 4:26 pm #758832POM
Participant@kite wrote:
:confused: I think Lex may have moved many of his GREAT posts to….http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054862371&page=2
Thanks for the link kite. Hope they don’t mind me pickpocketing below.
From lexington originally:
BEGINS:
Revenue Commissioners Move Confirmed
As indicated in the 1st Post on this thread, the OPW have today confirmed the move by the Revenue Commissioners (and their approx. 600 staff) from Government Buildings along Sullivans Quay to soon-to-be-built offices off the Blackpool By-Pass/Assumption Road.See post here -> http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp…75&postcount=1
The winning bid has come from auctioneer/developers Frank Sheahan & Joe Carey in conjunction with Ascon Rohcon (who have the option of buying out the almost 2-acre site from the formers). The developers secured planning in 2003 for a 4-storey office development, designed by Jack Coughlan & Associates back in 2001, for Susie’s Field – not far from their recently complete Sean Mhuillean apartment complex (designed by J.E. Keating & Associates). Construction on the project will commence almost immediately following the ironing out of issues concerning the move between the OPW and bidders – a scheduled completion is set for mid-2007 and relocation by the RC to commence after Summer 2007. As part of the winning bid, the developers will now secure a highly attractive and valuable site of 3/4 acres along Sullivans Quay (Government Buildings) which will now be up for substantial redevelopment – given the site currently suffers from issues of subsidence. Any prospective development here could accommodate a landmark mixed-use development with extensive commercial and leisure provisions to boot. Ascon have been pushing further into development in Cork over the last few years and now have their sights set on a number of potential city centre developments which could include a sites along Albert Quay (an assembled half-acre premises which may see the planning office later this year) & Sullivans Quay. The focus will now be on Sullivans Quay, undoubtedly expectations will be high given the prominence of the site with respect to Grand Parade.
ENDSMe again:
This represents to me all that is indicative of the OPW. Its a shortsighted move meaning that now 600 or so Revenue staff, most residing in the south side of the city will have to make the daily trapse through the city centre to the northside. Its a logistical nightmare, and the impact on traffic will undoubtedly be significant as if it weren’t bad enough as it is. Were my hopes set to high that the OPW might show some foresight and relocate to somewhere like Saint Patricks Quay? Even a move to Centre Park Road, were many Revenue staff have been temporarily relocated would have made more geographic and logistical sense. Instead we can see another nice green area in the city’s northside lost to a monstrosity of a four storey building. All said I have to commend Ascon for fighting off some tough competition and am anxious to see what they’ve planned for one of the city’s most interesting sites at Sullivan Quay. Will imagnation be shown or can we expect another lot of apartments? Surely the location demands better than that. - AuthorPosts
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