developments in cork
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- December 12, 2005 at 12:35 pm #758673
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ParticipantThe word has it that Halfords, PC world and Argos are moving in I think currys have pulled out but not fully sure on that one. I believe Tesco are looking to build on to their existing premises in mahon point aswell to cater for more textile and clothing.
December 12, 2005 at 12:39 pm #758674Anonymous
InactiveHas anyone tried to get through to Cork County Council planners these days.. I spent an hour on hold this morning and am becoming very tired with the whole 9.30 to 10.30 Monday and Wednesday issue when its easier to get bird flu that get through to the main and planning switch. Given the level of contribuitions that the Council are taking off developers and the amount of funding they are getting, perhaps the echo (given that they read this web site) would do a story on how long it takes to get through……total contrast to the rest of the country…..
December 12, 2005 at 1:01 pm #758675lexington
Participant@Leesider wrote:
Just saw that the planned UCC IT building has got funding from the government, hopefully this means a start date for construction will come soon. Anyone know when we can expect this?

Design Team
Scott Tallon Walker (Architects)
Project Management Ltd. (Mechanical and Electrical Engineers)
Arup Consulting Engineers (Civil and Structural Engineers)
PKS (Quantity Surveyors)A contractor is yet to be appointed. Planning runs out in 2007.
The proposed IT Building received planning in July 2002 and is to be located on a site on the Western Road which was formerly the Cork Greyhound Track. The strategic location of the site will present UCC with an opportunity to provide a western gateway to the campus on Western Road and its adjacency to the River Lee will allow a riverside walk to be built providing good access to other parts of the campus. The new Medical, Nursing, Therapies & Créche Complex at Brookfield will also be linked via a new bridge connecting the IT Building site to the Brookfield site. The Building comprises 3 floors with a total floor area of 15, 870m 2. Once completed it will accommodate the department of Computer Science and Microelectronic Engineering. The population of the Building will be in the region of 2,000 during the peak academic year.
December 12, 2005 at 3:08 pm #758676corcaighboy
Participantcan’t say the UCC IT Building floats my boat. Appears rather ordinary for what is a great site.
December 12, 2005 at 3:24 pm #758677POM
Participant@corcaighboy wrote:
can’t say the UCC IT Building floats my boat. Appears rather ordinary for what is a great site.
Underwhelming to say the least. Along with the possible Revenue Commissioner offices along the Blackpool bypass it represents another example of 2001 designs approved, yet to be realised and quite frankly would be better off not realised.
For such a fantastic riverside site you’d think STW would have put a little more heart into it.On the subject matter of trying to contact the County council’s planners…disaster! I got so fed up last Thursay I just hung up…better off heading out to the Model Farm Road and asking to see them in person. A waste of everyones time in most circumstances, phone questions would only take a few mins.
December 12, 2005 at 6:30 pm #758678Saucy Jack
Participant@POM wrote:
Underwhelming to say the least. Along with the possible Revenue Commissioner offices along the Blackpool bypass it represents another example of 2001 designs approved, yet to be realised and quite frankly would be better off not realised.
For such a fantastic riverside site you’d think STW would have put a little more heart into it.On the subject matter of trying to contact the County council’s planners…disaster! I got so fed up last Thursay I just hung up…better off heading out to the Model Farm Road and asking to see them in person. A waste of everyones time in most circumstances, phone questions would only take a few mins.
Just spent half the day trying to do the same today so eventually went out there after lunch to drop in a letter. The receptionist refused to accept the letter and redirected me to the planning desk where 7 people stood for 15 mins without anybody behind the counter.Eventually I gave the letter to a porter. What a watste of time.
December 12, 2005 at 7:53 pm #758679lexington
Participant🙂 O’Callaghan Properties are to apply for an additional block as part of their Lancaster Quay development on the former Jurys Doyle site. A new 7-storey block containing 30 apartments (12 x 1-bedroom units and 18 x 2-bedroom units) over retail and ATM facilities are destined for the site area previously designated to the 9-storey Block A – which was removed by ABP following appeal. The appeal conditions however did allow for the possibility of a further application on the site at a later date – and it would now seem OCP are taking the opportunity in hand.

Image showing Block A – hightlighted in red – which was removed on appeal. The new 7-storey proposal is set to replace the original 9-storey block element
Cork 2005: Solas – Journey of LightApologises for the poor image quality. Some images of the Solas – Journey of Light event.

Stages of Life – at OCP HQ 21 Lavitts Quay, the building’s various levels and sweeping glass facade are effectively used in a display that seem to chart varying stages of life’s development from Birth at ground level, to Childhood at 1st Floor Level to Adolesence at 2nd Floor Level. Attractively coated in varying light projections
Shadon Lane – off Pope’s Quay to the north of Shandon Bride, was stunningly decorated in a pattern of simple candles which illuminated the tiny laneway and created an extraordinary sense of continental romance – if only my image was able to convey the atmosphere sufficiently without ‘Romeo’s’ inclusion to the left!!! 😀
St. Mary’s Cathedral on Pope’s Quay looked nothing short of spectacular in a dressing of multi-spectrum light projections. The trees to the garden on the eastern elevation were individually dressed in primary colour light with a beautiful ‘Olympic Torch’ style fire in the foreground.The manner in which structures were brough to life via simple lighting techniques is certainly remarkable – and the effect was exceptional in this circumstance.
See comparison of St. Mary’s Cathedral below: (the daylight images are copyright of Archiseek.com)
December 13, 2005 at 1:39 am #758680A-ha
ParticipantThey should leave that light feature up all year round. Every building in London and Paris is lit up like that all the time….. why can’t we do it? It really does look outstanding. As for Mahon Point, I would have thought Argos would have gone for a smaller unit than the ones in the retail park…. I imagine they will be quite big if Halfords and PC World intend to go in there. I hope Currys still come, they would be nice to have…. and a very big name aswell.
December 13, 2005 at 2:11 am #758681GrahamH
ParticipantCork Court House has without doubt one of the finest floodlighting schemes in the country – looks spectacular on the News every night now the Special Criminal Court has been forced to sit down with yez 🙂
http://nemesis.co.jyu.fi/~mikyrjol/photos/digital/ireland_2005/cork_courthouse_2811.html
Pity about the corner columns – nothing that can be done unfortunately.
December 13, 2005 at 2:34 am #758682lexington
Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
Cork Court House has without doubt one of the finest floodlighting schemes in the country – looks spectacular on the News every night
Agreed – it does look pretty great. In some ways, one of the most unfortunate aspects of the Central Court House is its lack of a suitable vista. It’s a stunning structure which is deserving of a powerful perspective – I’ve always thought the site currently occupied by the Capitol Cineplex (and the future destination of a large retail development) would have been a wonderful location for a structure like the courthouse, providing a dramatic vantage down the length of Washington Street. Even so, I think the (costly!) renovations have been well employed. Great image too.
I’ve been long wishing to take a photographic series highlighting ‘Cork at Night’ – I think it would allow people see an often neglected dimension to many of Cork’s fine but overlooked structures. Someday, when I have time…someday…:confused:
December 13, 2005 at 10:52 am #758683jungle
ParticipantJust a very minor correction.
The church pictured is St Mary’s Dominican Church on Pope’s Quay. St Mary’s Cathedral is the church at the top of Shandon St.
December 13, 2005 at 12:36 pm #758684ewankennedy
ParticipantThought the one at the top od Shando street was Saint Marys and Annes??
Oh well…either way. 🙂
December 13, 2005 at 1:08 pm #758685jungle
Participant@ewankennedy wrote:
Thought the one at the top od Shando street was Saint Marys and Annes??
Oh well…either way. 🙂
You’re right. That is its full title.
December 13, 2005 at 2:42 pm #758686POM
Participant@A-ha wrote:
They should leave that light feature up all year round. Every building in London and Paris is lit up like that all the time….. why can’t we do it? .
Not every building in London is decorated like a nostalgic 60s discotheque. I agree that the lighting is visually attractive but I think much of the impact it provides comes consequent of the rarity associated with such lighting techniques. Were it in place all year the impact would be lost. Maybe an equally imaginative but moderately subdued effect would be satisfactory.
December 13, 2005 at 6:45 pm #758687Anonymous
InactiveI was just thinking the other day about the new stadium being talked about for munster in limerick and i know limerick is meant to be the home of rugby and all that but wouldnt it make much more sense financially for it to be built in cork not only because of the bigger population factor but they could share it with cork city who are the best supported team in the country and who it is known would like to move to a bigger more independant stadium!maybe it could be built just outside blackpool for the limerick crowd with all the development going on there!also just wondering does anyone have any info on the conference/event centre as its just geting anoying now with all the talk of it when there is such a need/market for it!(hopefully it will be an indoor arena like the odessy in belfast which i heard was planned for the showgrounds and which would be of much more benifit to the city)
December 13, 2005 at 7:25 pm #758688lexington
Participant@daniel_7 wrote:
also just wondering does anyone have any info on the conference/event centre as its just geting anoying now with all the talk of it when there is such a need/market for it!(hopefully it will be an indoor arena like the odessy in belfast which i heard was planned for the showgrounds and which would be of much more benifit to the city)
The time is nigh. 😀
As for Munster Rugby, you can be sure the organisation are fully aware of some of the points you’ve mentioned. 😉
December 13, 2005 at 9:06 pm #758689rebel_city
ParticipantI was looking for a website to see the cresent shopping centre in Limerick, but was unable to find one. The likes of zara, virgin, h&m have set up there, which is a positive sign of the times. I also came across a site http://www.coonaghcross.com which is poised to be the biggest shopping centre in munster I think. Wonder how opc feel about this one! is Limerick set to take over Cork as a major shopping hub!?
December 13, 2005 at 9:12 pm #758690rebel_city
ParticipantAlso, I was reading back over some of the previous posts and I got confused as regards the plans for Eglintine Street. The former An Post site is due to be developed into office space, a few stories high, and the proposed tall structure, approx 19 storys high, has been stalled/going ahead??
December 13, 2005 at 9:42 pm #758691Leesider
Participant@rebel_city wrote:
Also, I was reading back over some of the previous posts and I got confused as regards the plans for Eglintine Street. The former An Post site is due to be developed into office space, a few stories high, and the proposed tall structure, approx 19 storys high, has been stalled/going ahead??
All elements of this development are going ahead including a 17 storey tower. You are probably thinking of the Water St project which is still in appeal.
December 13, 2005 at 9:44 pm #758692lexington
Participant@rebel_city wrote:
Also, I was reading back over some of the previous posts and I got confused as regards the plans for Eglintine Street. The former An Post site is due to be developed into office space, a few stories high, and the proposed tall structure, approx 19 storys high, has been stalled/going ahead??
Project: Eglinton Street – 226 resdential units (as revised, originally 217), 30,000sq ft across 7 own-door offices, retail facilities including bulk and convenience goods, 550 underground car-parking spaces over 2-levels. Construction set to take place over 2 phases commencing in 2006, with a feature 17-storey landmark tower (70 metres) in the south-west corner of what was formerly the 3-acre An Post Sorting Facility. Purchased by the developers at a value estimated at €15m.
Developer: O’Flynn Construction
Architect: Frank O’Mahony w/ Wilson Architecture, No.5 Lapps Quay, Cork
The project was subject to a 1st Party Conditions Appeal concerning development contributions. ABP found in favour of the developer, however the subject may yet be referred by Cork City Council to the DoE and appropriate legal authrorities (?).
As for the retail issue – I think the future is looking good for Cork’s position as a primary retail and services centre, in no small part to O’Callaghan Properties. A couple of issues pose problems – not least among them ‘rent values’, naturally a landlord wll seek to maximise the possible return he/she can determine from their holdings, however I fear the exploits of some landlords may injure their own long-term activities if they’re not careful. A mre structured approach is favourable with gradual, sustainable progressions according to appropriate market conditions. Just because some tenants are willing to splash out on significant rents – this does not necessarily represent the broader sentiments of the market. Restrictive existing floorspace and excessive rental demands are maintaining some unwarranted vacanies – entrants need to be encouraged into the market (and with respect to the type of tenant willing to occupy limited floorspaces) and rental issues, once the situation is stable, can be re-evaluated. A strong city centre trading area is vital – I do believe that significant retail opportunities are capable and indeed necessary as part of an extended city centre in some docklands regions – however securing city centre dominance is a must. A city without a heart is no city at all. Steps are being made to secure this future – again, O’Callaghan Properties are close to applying for a large scheme at Academy Street occupying a block bordered by the said street, Emmet Place, Bowling Green Street and St. Patrick’s Street. Site assembly is estimated at €80m + with project development values estimated in the region of €130m to €150m. 200,000sq ft of retail space over 3-primary levels, 80 + apartments on 3 additional levels, some office provision and basement residential and loading parking. Further initiatives will concern Paul Street S.C. and Lavitts Quay/Half Moon Street. Rockfell Investments are forging ahead a retail and residential scheme at Cornmarket Street, Joe O’Donovan is believed to be assembling properties for another large scheme fronting Patrick’s Street, Grand Parade and possibly Oliver Plunkett Street – while other schemes are pitched for Grand Parade, Dunnes Stores on Patrick’s Street and so on. - AuthorPosts
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