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Ambitious developers Frinailla are to lodge plans for an impressive new redevelopment plan on the strategically located site, formerly that of the Dennehy family, at Dennehy’s Cross. The Dennehy Garage premises were sold to Frinailla earlier this year in a deal estimated to be valued at around the €20m euro mark – since that time, architects O’Mahony Pike have been enlisted to devise a landmark scheme of 163 mixed residential units (59 x 1, 86 x 2 and 18 x 3 bedroom) with 218 car-parking spaces provided over 3 half levels and numerous commercial units (1000m sq) designed for uses such as cafes, retail and other local, community based service activities (including a new post office, pharmacy, restaurant, beauty salon, convenience retail, florist etc). The project should bring back many of the local facilities lost to the area over the years consequent of changing market patterns. The landmark scheme will be submitted to CCC Planning Authority tomorrow (30th September 2005) and will seek to revitalise what has become a worn scene in the Dennehy’s Cross locale. Dennehy’s will seek to relocate operations to a new purpose built facility in the coming future. The subject application will concern only the eastern site premises at this time – a subsequent application will be lodged for proposals on the south-western site premises at some future point – the design of which will be noticeably befitting of its immediate surroundings.
Aerial view of the site (west to east) as it exists.
A comparison, before and after, for the Victoria Cross Road block elevations (west).
Stunning view of the southern elevation leading up toward Dennehy’s Cross along Magazine Road. (Large image, beware!)
New resident ‘green avenue’ – viewed east to west – dividing the 2 blocks.Wow, I never realised that Dennehy’s Cross site was so big.
The development looks nice. Not too tall, and that pointed edge on the southern elevation looks great.
I’d be a little concerned about what looks like an alleyway on the western elevation but other than that i like it.Me liking something Frinailla does – now there’s one for the books. 😀
great looking piece. im more of a curves and twists person myself (a la gehry or calatrava) and omp have a very simple sort of approach to their designs but they do simple well and the dennehys cross project shines in that context. love the use of exaggerated sharp angles, they bring a little distinction and fun to a generally standard design. good use of the site too. the green corridor breaks up the blocks nicely a provides for nice sunlight penetration at varying times of the day. pity omp didnt show the same flair at blackrock.
and radioactiveman i think frinailla are steadily becoming more design conscious and it shows. nice to see. ocallaghans and oflynns seem to be heading that direction too and its very positive for cork as a whole. if obrien/oflynn and fleming catch up now too we’ll be flying it!!! 😉 i hope frinailla keep demanding more of their design teams and aim for more innovative shapes and forms, as for all the other big developers. it’ll be important for their business and development environments more and more so as things progress because i think the public at large are themselves becoming more design conscious and demand higher standards from developers.
dennehys cross looks smashing in fairness – i definetely think Cork has come on in leaps and bounds in such a short while. A decent bus service now with a tram system for the main streets (missed opportunity Patrick St) and a nightlink and we will be set.
The amount of money floating around is unbelievable. People have to have money to buy them and Frinailla need money to build them and will still come out with handsome profits.
@ewankennedy wrote:
What is it about O’Mahony pike architects style??
Well I think they will answer their critics with this project. 🙂 Fabulous looking development for an area that could really need a bit of rejuvination. I live close by and i would be great to have a village type amenity close by that is not totally student orientated. I just hope the CAHRA brigade wont throw a spanner in the works 🙁
Well done to Frinailla for showing some imagination.
🙂 A very interesting little development on historic Sheare’s Street – Michael Bradley has enlisted Magee Creedon to design a new 4-storey building in place of the prominent single-storey fast-food unit. The building is to comprise of a retail unit over basement and ground floor levels, 1st floor office space and an apartment over 2nd and 3rd floor levels with a roof-top garden. The building is a unique idea on such a small premises and given its location, let’s hope Magee Creedon provide a building to be admired.
🙂 Frinailla can expect a decision date for their Dennehy’s Cross development come November 24th 2005 (same as Water Street appeal outcome), however it remains to be seen whether this date holds. Hmmm. 😉
🙂 Not so long ago I noted that Dunnes Stores would be looking to build on its discussions with CCC by lodging an application for the redevelopment of it’s “birth” store premises along St. Patrick’s Street. Well, Dunnes Stores are now ready to lodge that very application for a massive €30m redevelopment of the historic premises. Dunnes will seek to demolish all existing structures on its 0.024 hectare site bounded by Bowling Green Street to the west, William O’Brien Street to the east, Drawbridge Street to the north and Saint Patrick’s Street to the south – however the St. Patrick’s Street facades at numbers 103, 104 and 105 will be retained and incorporated into this impressive new scheme. Permission will seek to construct a new 6-storey over basement commercial and retail building with convenience retail (predominantly grocery, off-licence etc) at basement level and comparison retail over the remaining 5 levels – among which, a new public restaurant facility will be provided. The gross floor area of the new project will total 13, 863m sq and is located across Bowling Green Street from a new €150m retail, residential and office development set to be lodged by O’Callaghan Properties later in October. This project signals the 1st of at least 3 new major retail development projects earmarked for the Patrick’s Street area over the coming months and years. Design on the project is by Bertie Pope & Associates.
The Dunnes Stores redevelopment site can be seen hightlighted in blue.(Images and further details soon.)
I’ll be honest, its not what I was expecting. I live nearby and was quite frankly dreading the prospect of this development. As a standalone proposal it looks quite pleasant but i would be concerned at how it looks when viewed from the crossroads. A part of me is undecided on this but i don’t see this proposal detracting significantly from our area. Personally i’m a little more concerned at how the other proposal for the car showrooms will look as it is deeper in the bosom of some very sensitive homes. Cleary a 5 storey type building in this location would be utterly unsuited no matter how good the design is. I’ll await anxiously and will need a lot of convincing. But for the time being, i suppose I’m pleasantly surprised to some extent and see how this could be a valuable rather than negative addition to the area. Owner occupiers will be important to tag though.
on the ball lexy, the county library has put in a planning application for the Carrigrohane Road for a 6 storey building
@lexington wrote:
Dunnes will seek to demolish all existing structures on its 0.024 hectare site bounded by Bowling Green Street to the west, William O’Brien Street to the east, Drawbridge Street to the north and Saint Patrick’s Street to the south – however the St. Patrick’s Street facades at numbers 103, 104 and 105 will be retained and incorporated into this impressive new scheme.
I was just about to throw a big hissy fit until I noticed the facades are being retained! 🙂 At least one of them is quite attractive!
This should be a great boost to the area, should it go through. Am I right in thinking Bowling Green St. itself will be redeveloped and some retail units may front onto this street? If so, that could add significant new retail frontage to the Patrick St. area, which could use some to counter spiralling rents, to be honest.
😮 Today, Friday 30th September 2005, has been something of a triple bonus day for large-scale development in Cork. First came the announcement of Frinailla’s exciting Dennehy’s Cross redevelopment, then news of a €30m redevelopment of Dunnes Stores’ Patrick’s Street premises into a brand new 6-storey retail centre of some 13, 863m sq, now Blarney-based John Cleary Developments have confirmed that they are lodging plans for a new 13, 831sq m (just under 150,000sq ft) retail and office development at the former Sifco premises near Mahon Point. The development will rise 5-storeys over a dual level basement car-park for 301 spaces, with a further 68 spaces at surface level. The proposed offices will be located over 4 no. ground floor retail showrooms ranging between 700 and 704 sq m gross floor areas – this essentially leaves approx. 11015 sq m of office space available, or 118,564sq ft – more than adequate for say, a tenant such as the Revenue Commissioners? I’ll look into those details early next week. The design is by Coughlan de Keyser Architects. John Cleary Developments have also attained planning permission for a substantial motor-mall on the former Sifco site, and marketing is in full swing.
Image of MotorMall already proposed by John Cleary Developments for the former Sifco site.I really like those plans for Dennehy’s Cross. I like the picture of the Southern Elevation. Any updates on the airport? Who was it that usually posted a few pictures now and then? jungle? Urghh, I’m after forgetting! Anyway, I’m keen to see how everything is coming into place. Post anything at all if ye can. Thanks.
Dunnes have a massive site on St. Patrick Street, a lot of which is going to waste. Its good to see that plans are emerging which will utilise fully this space and further buffer Cork’s main street from the effects of ou-of-town shopping malls.
However i’d have two main worries:
1. That proper use would be made of Bowling Green and William O’Brien Street- French Church street would be a good example of the type of development required here. Merchant’s Quay ‘Backs to the street’ philosophy needs to be avoided at all costs. In fairness, from what i can gather, this is in hand.2. I’d hate to see the St. Patrick’s Street facades with the new development sitting on its shoulders- in other words, the six-storey proposed should be built back far enough to maintain the building heights on the street.
Other than these two issues, I cant see this development doing anything but good for Pana 🙂
The Retail showrooms and offices are to the rear of the Sifco Site. The Car Showrooms are still going ahead at the front of the site.
@lexington wrote:
😮 Today, Friday 30th September 2005, has been something of a triple bonus day for large-scale development in Cork. First came the announcement of Frinailla’s exciting Dennehy’s Cross redevelopment, then news of a €30m redevelopment of Dunnes Stores’ Patrick’s Street premises into a brand new 6-storey retail centre of some 13, 863m sq, now Blarney-based John Cleary Developments have confirmed that they are lodging plans for a new 13, 831sq m (just under 150,000sq ft) retail and office development at the former Sifco premises near Mahon Point. The development will rise 5-storeys over a dual level basement car-park for 301 spaces, with a further 68 spaces at surface level. The proposed offices will be located over 4 no. ground floor retail showrooms ranging between 700 and 704 sq m gross floor areas – this essentially leaves approx. 11015 sq m of office space available, or 118,564sq ft – more than adequate for say, a tenant such as the Revenue Commissioners? I’ll look into those details early next week. The design is by Coughlan de Keyser Architects. John Cleary Developments have also attained planning permission for a substantial motor-mall on the former Sifco site, and marketing is in full swing.
The Kenny bid is still the superior proposal in terms of design and location. Plus it has the advantage of planning. The appeal will be the next hurdle. The McCarthy proposal is a good one but do the Revenue Commissioners really want to relocate to Centre Park Road? Maybe a few years down the line but now? Mahon is too peripheral and is disadvantaged time-wise. If it is a stand alone project, then it has Mahon Point offices and NSC to contend with, but will probably successfully soak-up tenants over time.
@who_me wrote:
I wouldn’t call them ugly at all, .
the other views look alright, but this elevation is horribly disproportionate. the townhouses on the roebuck development are dealt with much better.
Same images as posted by who me, just a little clearer – may help some with their interpretation of the development. Design is by O’Mahony Pike, on lands bought by Lyonshall Limited (Kieran Coughlan and Claire O’Riordan) at the Ursuline Convent in Blackrock, subsequently developed by Pierse Homes and Cobh-based Firestone Developments. Marketed by Hooke & MacDonald (Dublin) and Lisney (Cork). According to Pierse, Phase 1 has sold out and subsequent to the demand, units in Phase 2 have now been released.
Personally, I’m a much bigger fan of OMP’s work for Frinailla at Dennehy’s Cross, but I’ll let you decide for yourselves. 😮
When is Harvey Norman due to open? I can’t imagine them taking much longer. I heard Hickeys are closing down six of it’s stores in Cork due to the increased competition from B&Q and Atlantic Homecare. It should free up some city centre retail space, maybe even room for redevelopment, interesting to see how things will turn out, although I am sorry to see the company come to an end.
@A-ha wrote:
When is Harvey Norman due to open? I can’t imagine them taking much longer. I heard Hickeys are closing down six of it’s stores in Cork due to the increased competition from B&Q and Atlantic Homecare. It should free up some city centre retail space, maybe even room for redevelopment, interesting to see how things will turn out, although I am sorry to see the company come to an end.
Where are Hickey’s stores?
Douglas SC, Oliver Plunkett St/Maylor St, Savoy SC, Ballyvolane SC…
Is that the company closing down or are they just shutting unprofitable stores?
Douglas SC, Oliver Plunkett St/Maylor St, Savoy SC, Ballyvolane SC…
I think you’re confusing HIckey’s DIY and Hickey’s Fabric stores. As far as i’m aware they are two totally unrelated companies.
Hickey’s DIY have shops in:
Maylor Street/Oliver Plunkett Street,
Wilton SC,
Douglas SC,
Ballyvolane SC
and Watercourse Road.Oppurtunities for redevelopment would be immediately apparent at Maylor Street/Oliver Plunkett Street and Watercourse Road- another boost for this rapidly changing suburban hub.
They also have a store in Limerick, trading under a different name (which escapes me now). This will also close.
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