developments in cork
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- September 13, 2005 at 12:45 pm #758073
phatman
Participant@securityman wrote:
Mallow, I was down on site today and it looks a nice set up on the first floor there is a number of shops and a cinema on the next level is residential and there is car parking spaces for 450 underneath. It is set to open next month there is also retail and residential across from the main square included in this is Heatons. I know who the main tenants are but it is to be kept secret until everything is sorted out with contracts etc but its no suprise.
Well, by the way you’re talking i’m gonna take it Dunnes are making the move from the main street. Like you say, no surprise, unless i’m mistaken.
September 13, 2005 at 1:33 pm #758074phatman
Participant@lexington wrote:
😎 Cork County Council have permitted the development of a new hotel at Owenahinch, Little-Island. The 207-bedroom proposal is being developed by Irish & European Properties (Dublin) and will include a conference centre, swimming pool, spa and other leisure facilities, car parking, restaurant, bar and 2 retail units.
For anyone who is confused or unaware, this hotel is not being developed at Little Island near Cork City, but in West Cork, at Owenahincha, where there is also an area known as Little Island. I was looking at the planning on the Council website, and surprisingly enough they didn’t stress this, they simply left it as ‘Little Island’, misleading a few people i’m sure.
Also, the developers behind the proposed apartments at Victoria Cross, ie. on the former car showroom site, towards Orchard Road, seem confident of securing the go-ahead, they’ve already erected a sign advertising a ‘proposed apartment development’, a tactic that seems to be employed more and more recently by developers, amounts to little more than propaganda in my opinion. However, i quite like this scheme, should lend a bit more architectural merit to the area in light of some of the more recent additions.
Btw, wasn’t aware of Hegarty’s presence in Victoria Cross, what are they up to across the road, next to the Fleming development?
September 13, 2005 at 3:41 pm #758075Radioactiveman
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@phatman wrote:Also, the developers behind the proposed apartments at Victoria Cross, ie. on the former car showroom site, towards Orchard Road, seem confident of securing the go-ahead, they’ve already erected a sign advertising a ‘proposed apartment development’, a tactic that seems to be employed more and more recently by developers, amounts to little more than propaganda in my opinion. However, i quite like this scheme, should lend a bit more architectural merit to the area in light of some of the more recent additions.
I believe that’s Frinailla again…they do seem to be taking a very agressive attitude to their developments lately. This is the second time they’ve erected advertising signs before planning decisions have been made and their unauthorised demolition on Watercourse Road is continuing seemingly unmolested by those charged with upholding the Planning Laws. A complete block of buildings ajacent to Watercourse Road Garda Station was demolished this morning at approximately 6am.
In my view all of these actions show at best, a severe lack of respect for the law of the land and a worst, a deliberate campaign to undermine planning laws.September 13, 2005 at 4:09 pm #758076lisam
Participant@phatman wrote:
For anyone who is confused or unaware, this hotel is not being developed at Little Island near Cork City, but in West Cork, at Owenahincha, where there is also an area known as Little Island. I was looking at the planning on the Council website, and surprisingly enough they didn’t stress this, they simply left it as ‘Little Island’, misleading a few people i’m sure.
But if you look it up under the planning enquiry system rather than in the weekly reports it states what area it is in
September 13, 2005 at 5:01 pm #758077shrink2cork
ParticipantThank you Lexington for your help
September 13, 2005 at 10:47 pm #758078A-ha
ParticipantOh my God…. I’m like so outraged! The flights due to commence next month from Cork to New York have been cancelled due to a €95 surcharge in fuel. Like, what the fu*k??? I’d pay the extra €95 if it was me! Over 4000 people had booked their flights and will now get a refund. On a brighter note, two new flights will be added to Cork Airport including Dublin and London Gatwick, both from Ryanair. Like we need another flight to London anyway. easyJet already operate the Gatwick route and Aer Lingus operate the Heatrow route with Ryanair operating the Stansted route. By the way, if you want to make a complaint, not because you had booked flights, but because you are a Cork citizen, then ring Slatterys, the operators of the Cork-New York route on 066 9159755. That’s their office, I suspect the phones will be flying off the hook. Although I doubt the CAA will take the news lying down.
September 13, 2005 at 11:00 pm #758079Anonymous
Inactivei’d say that would be a slap in the face alright. i have family living in cork who fly to new york and hate that long drive to shannon. and that’s before the queues. i’d be furious if it were me living in cork. i myself believe that cork airport needs to grow.
September 14, 2005 at 1:16 am #758080lexington
ParticipantRidiculous!
However Ryanair have made a positive(?) stride regarding Cork. See link below.
September 14, 2005 at 2:50 pm #758081Anonymous
Inactive@daniel_7 wrote:
is market square the new development in midelton or mallow?
Market green is the new development in Midleton
September 14, 2005 at 3:14 pm #758082lexington
Participant🙂 Cork’s first permanent ice-rink (albeit a synthetic one) has been cleared for development at the North Main Street S.C. The ice-rink received permission by OCP and will be operated by 2 local businessmen. The ice-rink will be located on the 1st floor of the S.C. at the former Tall Order Diner and will reach a size of approximately 2,000sq ft, accommodating 76 hours of operations per week and 40 skaters at any one time for sessions of 30 minutes each. Also included will be a theme diner. The scheme was designed by Patrick A. Cashman & Associates who have also worked with OCP on the design for their new HQ, recently completed, at 21 Lavitts Quay.
😎 Meanwhile David Crowe’s Oyster Developments have seen Further Information requested of their 1st Phase office scheme at Deane Street. This phase seeks to construct a new 7-storey office building designed by Sabine Wittman’s The e-Project, based in Dungarvan. The 2nd Phase, also currently in planning, will include the conversion and refurbishment of No.8 Parnell Place for office use, this will adjoin the new office building in Phase One. 4 large window openings are proposed as part of Phase 2 on the northern facade of No.8 Parnell Place, a protected structure.September 14, 2005 at 4:41 pm #758083Radioactiveman
ParticipantI see subway (yum!!) have moved into the basement of the building at the corner of St. Patricks Hill and MacCurtain Street. Presumably a listed building and I’m unsure whether they have planning for a change of permission from the existing public house. Let me know if I’m wrong though!!
September 14, 2005 at 5:08 pm #758084who_me
Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
I see subway (yum!!) have moved into the basement of the building at the corner of St. Patricks Hill and MacCurtain Street. Presumably a listed building and I’m unsure whether they have planning for a change of permission from the existing public house. Let me know if I’m wrong though!!
😉 Why do I get a sense of deja vu?
September 14, 2005 at 5:31 pm #758085lexington
ParticipantSean Mhuileann
Just some images of Sean Mhuileann Phase 2 as it nears completion. Unfortunately, the 4th block is a little out of sight. The substantial Section 23 apartment development was developed by Joe Carey & Frank Sheahan, designed by J.E. Keating & Associates. Phase 1 was constructed by PJ Hegarty & Sons Ltd with Phase 2 built by Rohcon.
@Radioactiveman wrote:I see subway (yum!!) have moved into the basement of the building at the corner of St. Patricks Hill and MacCurtain Street. Presumably a listed building and I’m unsure whether they have planning for a change of permission from the existing public house. Let me know if I’m wrong though!!
Planning does exist, Alan O’Herlihy sought permission on a change of use last May (2005).
September 14, 2005 at 5:39 pm #758086Radioactiveman
Participant@lexington wrote:
Planning does exist, Alan O’Herlihy sought permission on a change of use last May (2005).
Good man Lexington.
September 14, 2005 at 6:38 pm #758087lexington
Participant🙁 The James Leahy & Associates designed plan for Pitwood Limited, which comprised of a new 116-bedroom hotel on the Corbett Bros.-owned site at Parnell Place and Beasley Street, has been taken to ABP on appeal following a grant by CCC. The substantially revised proposal features a unique Beasley Street elevation (see image below) and is to incorporate the protected facades at 17/18 Parnell Place. The revised proposal also took heed of a reduction in height so ao impact on the protected structure at 97 South Mall (TCH HQ).
😎 And as previously noted on this thread, Werdna’s Water Street Oral Hearing dates with ABP are set for the 11th to the 13th of October in the Gresham Metropole Hotel along MacCurtain Street with a decision date rescheduled for November 24th 2005. From contact I’ve had with one party involved, though anxious, if the appeal is favourable in it’s outcome – Werdna will be enthusiastic about getting to work on the project – no date was given, but I would suppose early 2006. When asked about what the outcome would be should the Bord not offer the developers their hoped for decision, the source said it would be a matter for ‘re-evaluation’, with no clear opinion expressed. Many fingers will undoubtedly be crossed. 😮September 14, 2005 at 9:50 pm #758088lexington
Participant:confused: Following the successful votes by Cork County Council regarding rezoning of the Mallow GAA grounds and lands near Midelton, Castlelands Construction looks set to proceed with their proposed development of 200 houses in Mallow and are preparing an application for well over 700 new homes in Midelton. The Midelton zoning is permitted following a promise by Castlelands to provide 8m euros toward the development of a new fly-over near the Ballincurra junction to alleviate the projected gridlock of the area. As part of the Mallow deal, Castlelands will provide the Mallow GAA with land for new grounds near the town. Castlelands dealings with the GAA however are not believed to be strictly limited to Mallow, as speculation continues to mount regarding their involvement with a docklands development in the city. However an unconfirmed rumour also indicates that Castlelands may have also been assessing the 11-acre Ford Motor Co. site currently the subject of bidding. As I said, this has not been confirmed and is mere speculation.

🙂 International construction firm Laing O’Rourke are looking to set up an office in Cork within the next few months. The firm already has offices in Dublin and Galway, and is also assessing setting up and office in Limerick. A reliable company source noted that Laing O’Rourke has identified Cork as being an exciting expansion opportunity and noted that the move represents their vote of confidence in the Leeside market. LOR will be seeking to competitively win contracts on a number of fronts – more details on that when they become available.
😮 River Island have indicated that they are actively seeking for an additional but larger sized unit in Cork. A company insider stated that the Academy Street development nearby didn’t present an immediate attraction to the company, but it would assess their options nonetheless. Preference has been expressed for any new unit to be at least twice the size of their existing city centre operation on Patrick’s Street.September 14, 2005 at 10:36 pm #758089A-ha
ParticipantAnother Subway in Cork. The company must find Cork a profitable market. I’m glad it isn’t another McDonalds or something, in case you haven’t heard, it’s bad for you. Yes, I agree, Subway, ummmm and healthy! What a load of you know what, I can’t imagine Ryanair filling 3 loads of 200 seater aircraft every day on fligths from Cork to Dublin. But, even better news, I’ve heard rumors that easyJet wanted to make Cork their main hub for the Republic of Ireland, they have already made moves, according to two Sunday newspapers, for starters, they decreased the amount of flights from Shannon to London and trebeled the amount of flights from Cork to London since they began operations. Come to think of it, I’m surprised an easyInternetCafé hasn’t opened up in one of the Subways yet (they have some deal thing), I bet it won’t be long before you see one in the airport when the Subway opens in there. Fingers will also be crossed for Water Street. 🙂
September 14, 2005 at 10:38 pm #758090A-ha
ParticipantOoops, I posted the same message twice. :p
September 15, 2005 at 3:33 am #758091Radioactiveman
ParticipantDoes anybody know the exact nature of the appeal to ABP re. the hotel on Parnell Place?
I didn’t personally love the thing, but i can see no reason to appeal to, especially given the fragile nature of the facades onto Parnell Place 🙁On the whole Ryanair thing, we shouldnt really be that thankful to them. In my view they’re moving into Cork in order to p*ss off Aer Arann. And they’ve also announced plans to fly to two more London airports!! Woopdedoo, the world and his mother is flying to London. If they were that interested in making Cork a Real hub they would have introduced new destinations in Europe, not ones which are already being served.
Anybody know when the ABP decision on AIB Blackpool is due?
September 15, 2005 at 10:17 am #758092-Donnacha-
Participantanyone know the location of the rezoned midleton lands discussed earlier in the context of castelands – i know its south of the N25 (?) but how close are the lands to the ‘ballinacurra’ roundabout – its a terrible planning decision to encourage large scale development south of the road – and it apparently was pushed by a number of councillors as well as maurice moloney – the key thing was that the developers promise to fund a flyover – how come the logic of land use zoning has been corrupted so much that underfunded local authorities are effectively bribed by private interests to provide infrastructure that the state should be providing?
btw – does anyone think that the sean mhuileann (?) development in blackpool looks CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP – pure 1990s tax-incentive red brick underwhelming designs – probably will be redeveloped in 10-15 years – almost as bad as the other development on commons road – cannot remember the name (advertised as dreamland)
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