developments in cork
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@Radioactiveman wrote:
Yeah, I did mean Lavitts. Sorry for the confusion. Still no nearer to finding out whether its true or not.
I have no idea what TK maxx is but i’ve a feeling if it doesn’t open somewhere in Cork soon a couple of members of this thread could explode with anticipation :pTK Maxx has just opened in Sligo (sorry Cork). Must say it is a peculiar shop – Calvin Klein boxer shorts sit side-by-side with things that quite obviously just arrived in on the latest ship from Taiwan. What is the back ground to the shop? Are they German – they have a certain Lidl/Aldi style to them. Anyway – Corkonians, don’t hold your breath, it isn’t exactly awe inspiring. H & M though will stir Dunnes Stores up – no harm.
@securityman wrote:
I also hear that Arnotts is rumored to be looking to be anchor tenants in this new development.
]hopefully[/I] let you know more when I can.
@Radioactiveman wrote:
Yeah, I did mean Lavitts. Sorry for the confusion. Still no nearer to finding out whether its true or not.
I was passing the Lavitt’s Quay building yesterday, and one of the (large) ground floor retail units has pictures of a book store on its windows, inscribed (in quite small writing) Vibes and Scribes.
So, I’m guessing.. yes. 😉
@PDLL wrote:
TK Maxx has just opened in Sligo (sorry Cork). Must say it is a peculiar shop – Calvin Klein boxer shorts sit side-by-side with things that quite obviously just arrived in on the latest ship from Taiwan. What is the back ground to the shop? Are they German – they have a certain Lidl/Aldi style to them. Anyway – Corkonians, don’t hold your breath, it isn’t exactly awe inspiring. H & M though will stir Dunnes Stores up – no harm.
I dont think H&M will have any effect on Dunnes Stores Trading. The clothing range in Dunnes is totally different.
TK Maxx is an american company.The TJX Companies, Inc. is the leading off-price apparel and home fashions retailer in the U.S. and worldwide. TJX operates eight businesses — T.J. Maxx, Marshalls, HomeGoods, A.J. Wright, and Bob’s Stores in the United States, Winners and HomeSense in Canada, and T.K. Maxx in Europe.
Never mind TK Maxx when is Matalan coming?
I dont think H&M will have any effect on Dunnes Stores Trading. The clothing range in Dunnes is totally different.
H&M tends to cater for the ‘cheaper’, less exclusive end of the clothes retailing market – surely it will provide some competition to Dunnes. Regardless, opening the market up to outside competition is always welcome – it might help Ireland get out of the spiral of excessive costs that it has gotten itself into.
Tk Max is also building there store on the parkway ro, in limerick soon , but not in a hurry! at least Limerick and Cork are not to far from each other, to shop . I’m surprised to see Sligo get one ! 😮 , Is debenhams moving out of the Mahon point ?
I thought they were doing well, at least cork has Debenhams and M&S can’t complain to much! 🙂
@dave123 wrote:
Tk Max is also building there store on the parkway ro, in limerick soon , but not in a hurry! at least Limerick and Cork are not to far from each other, to shop . I’m surprised to see Sligo get one ! 😮
)Having checked out TK Maxx I am a bit amazed that any town would actually want to have own – think of a Pound Shop – same tacky crap, just trades in euros and doesn’t confine its prices to single units of currency as was the traditional wont of the Pound Shop.
As the tourist brochures state ‘Sligo is surprising’.
Being a total shopaholic theres a big difference in the clothes you get in Dunnes compared to H & M. Dunnes Stores caters more for the house wife than H & M would. The more shops the better though!
As for TK MAXX you can get some good quality merchandise and some poor quality too. The same goes for most stores even BT!!
@lisam wrote:
Being a total shopaholic theres a big difference in the clothes you get in Dunnes compared to H & M. Dunnes Stores carers more for teh house wife than H & M would
a salient if perhaps slightly sexist point – it might be best not to pidgeon hole the fashion sense of the average house-wife though – I am sure that there are plenty of young Irish house wives out there who like to slip into a nice goose-pimple arousing belly top prior to frying up a wholesome pan of extra juicy sausages, provided though that they have bought their pan-cover in the Dunnes Stores House and Home section. Nothing worse that a skite of hot oil in the navel region.
Sensibly, CCC have refused permission for the change of use of the ground floor of a listed building a 16 North Mall from living accomodation to office use. A sign was also to be erected on the exterior of the building.
With the exception of the Franciscan Well (Public House) and an office at the Sunday’s Well end, all this terrace of three-storeys are in residential use. However the City Council would do well to instruct the new student accomodation provider at the Sunday’s Well end of the street to remove the unsightly plastic signs attached to the doors. Afterall, the owner is pretty well known to them 🙂
CCC have also refused permission for James Ronayne’s 3 storey retail (3 units) and apartment (8) building on Thomas Davis Street, Blackpool. The report found that the proposed development would result in “over-development of the site (and) would produce a living environment of low amenity value.”
This place is quickly turning into the shopping channel 🙁@Radioactiveman wrote:
This place is quickly turning into the shopping channel 🙁
Yeah, I’m all for discussing relevant tenants and so-called ‘signature’ tenancy developments – after all they sometimes have crucial impacts on development successes and viability etc etc (and God knows I do it myself a bit) – but I think the conversation has strayed a little. It’s no intended jibe at anyone, but aren’t there other forums to discuss the latest styles? :p
]*UPDATES*[/B]😎 Just may be worth noting, given the level of controversy around this project – that Bernard Crowley & Gerald Paul’s plans for a 5 to 7 storey apartment building with 67 units, gym and 49 space basement car-park destined for the Riverside Farm site along the Model Farm Road, and designed by Dennehy + Dennehy, has seen it’s due date pushed back until October 21st 2005. The design slopes south to north peaking at 7-storeys. The developers have had previous applications for a student development on the site. This application has received over 30 seperate objections – including that of a member of the CCC Planning Dept. Issues of traffic management are also a further concern. It’ll be interesting to see how this outcomes.
🙂 Also a strategically located apartment development for Cork city centre is expected to be lodged imminently, the project was previously indicated in an earlier post (possibly in LADSOCL) and I will bring full details of that shortly.
What surprised me more about TK Maxx then the one in Sligo is that there is also one in Letterkenny. It must have been a godsend for the local people of Donegal. And there is a huge difference between H&M and Dunnes, the main one being that there isn’t a H&M on every corner in Ireland and H&M do more trendier type stuff. And whoever mentioned Matalan (I can’t see where it was written) I thank you. I go over to England every year around Christmas with my cousins to stock up on stuff from Matalan. Clothes, electronics and most importantly…. big tubs of sweets. I wish Woolworths were still in Cork, why did they have to close!! Also, the main reason I am obsessed with TK Maxx is cos I can’t afford to go to Brown Thomas every day of the week, like someone my age can afford to buy FCUK jeans for €90 a pop whenever they feel like it. I spend my money on other things, like saving for a car 🙂 We’ll see who’s laughing when I drive past Brown Thomas in a 1967 rust coloured Ford Fiesta.
Was very impressed with the progress being made with County Hall, I saw it yesterday for the first time in about two or three months. The bottom third of the side facing towards Ballincollig was done in the new glass they are putting on it. Very modern, although, anything would look modern compared to what it was. Ireland’s tallest building should become Ireland’s nicest, lol. I can’t wait to see what it look’s like when completed. It will be like a completly new building.
Sorry for typing my third message in a row, but I prefer it rather than editing a previous post and doing this, that and the other to it, but what is the height of R&H Hall, it’s quite tall for Irish standards, or else it just looks taller cos it hasn’t any windows, but all the same…. is there an official height on it?
i make it 45 metres to the shoulder of the front section closest the river. 55 at the highest point on the back section. i’ll dig up some survey drawings if you want.could take a while.
Does anyone know what’s the story about the appeal for Eglington Street……I heard that they were appealing the fact that they have been charged development contributions for basement car parking…..a bit odd as the Development Plan makes them provide parking?
@yorktown wrote:
Does anyone know what’s the story about the appeal for Eglington Street……I heard that they were appealing the fact that they have been charged development contributions for basement car parking…..a bit odd as the Development Plan makes them provide parking?
My understanding is that it is in part due to reductions made to the Eglinton Street elevation. As for the basement car-parking, I would agree that development contributions should not be charged for providing parking spaces which CCC have called for themselves. But as you know, OFC faced a bit of a sticking point with the Planning Dept. on the quantity of spaces they wished to provide at basement level (553) – the developers claimed the numbers were crucial to the overall viability and attractiveness of the development, I would tend to support the argument in this case and for other arguments beyond viability issues. Generally such spaces facilitate a development (and the immediate surrounds). OFC were granted the spaces ultimately subject to a rearrangement of space usage. Predominant usage of the car-park is for long-term residents, therefore traffic generation should generally be minimised with respect to the development. Spaces are however also available on a short-term basis for retail & office associated uses.
I know however, a friend of mine, would argue that if the developer intends to market these spaces, they should be included in consideration of the overall development and thus liable to development contributions. But I’ll leave you consider that yourself. OFC, I am told, remain optimistic about an early 2006 start to the project. 🙂
A Fianna Fáil junior minister has described as unintentional his use of ministerial notepaper from the Department of the Environment for a letter supporting a land rezoning in Co Cork.
Batt O’Keeffe, Minister of State with responsibility for environmental protection, made the submission on behalf of a developer to the draft action plan for Fermoy last January. It was received almost a week before the plan was published.
His intervention caused concern among officials in Cork County Council, one of whom warned of “difficulties in the future” if the council accepted a submission made via a politician before the plan went on public display.
Mr O’Keeffe wrote in support of plans by Hollycourt Developments, one of the largest house-builders in Munster, to have lands at Watergrasshill zoned for housing and commercial use. As a TD for Cork South-Central, he does not represent Watergrasshill.
The Minister for the Environment has the power to reverse any rezoning made by councilllors and is usually loath to intervene directly in local planning issues in case he is accused of a conflict of interest.
Yesterday, Mr O’Keeffe agreed that his use of ministerial notepaper for the submission was open to misinterpretation. “In the normal run of events, I would have sent it on TDs’ stationery. I’m surprised it happened that way. If it had gone through the department, they would have stopped it.” The Minister, who is in China, said he would have been aware that the documents would be made public. “I’m not that stupid to leave myself open to that interpretation. But then maybe I am.”
County councillors will next week finalise 13 local area plans for Cork in the aftermath of a process marked by intense lobbying by developers for land rezoning. The county manager’s recommendation that Hollycourt’s submission be rejected has already been accepted by councillors.
No mention of the politician’s involvement was made in the manager’s report to councillors last April, which listed the two submissions on the Watergrasshill land as coming from Hollycourt.
A council spokesman said that there was “nothing unusual” about representations being made by TDs and even ministers on planning issues. Asked how a submission could have been made before the plan was published, he said: “People would have had a fair idea what was coming up.” The plan had been with the printers for four months before it was published.
According to the council’s file, Donal Herlihy, of Hollycourt Developments, wrote to Mr O’Keeffe on January 4th, enclosing a map of the lands he hoped to get rezoned for housing. He suggested that three of the 15 acres be developed for a 60-bed nursing home and a number of sheltered housing units. It appears Mr O’Keeffe sent this letter on to the assistant manager, John Deasy, on the same day. However, the Minister’s letter is not on file.
The draft plan went on display on January 10th. On January 18th, Mr Deasy wrote to Mr O’Keeffe, acknowledging receipt of the letter, which he said he was forwarding to a senior planner in the planning policy unit, Paul Murphy.
On January 27th, another official at the unit wrote to Mr O’Keeffe, acknowledging receipt of his “submission/observations” and assuring him that it would be taken into account before the plan was finalised.
However, in a hand-written note to Mr Murphy on February 9th, a council official says he/she is “a bit concerned re the implications of accepting this submission”.
The writer, whose signature is not legible, says this is because it was sent to Mr Deasy on January 4th, before public display began, and because it was not sent as a submission directly, but “via Batt O’Keeffe”.
“In order to avoid difficulties in the future, Batt O’Keeffe TD should be written to [ to] submit this as part of the process before February 21st [ the closing date for submissions] or to advise the landowner to write in before the end of the public display period.” In a note appended to the memo, Mr Murphy expresses agreement and suggest a phone call to the developer “will do”.
Two days later, Ms Susan Leahy, a council official, wrote to Mr O’Keeffe, saying “it has come to my attention that this was not a submission and the acknowledgment was made in error”.
On February 15th, Mr O’Keeffe replied on notepaper marked Office of Minister of State, Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, stating: “I would advise that I did intend my letter to be a submission.”
In a replying letter to the Minister, Ms Leahy then confirmed that his letter would be treated as a submission.
© The Irish Times
sw101, thanks for that, but no need to go to any more trouble, I just wanted a rough idea of it’s height. If it is 55m at it’s highest, does that make R&H Hall Ireland’s third tallest building (after Liberty Hall 59m in second place)??? Some people don’t regard it as a building…. but what else could it be called only a building!
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