developments in cork
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- August 10, 2005 at 12:00 pm #757753
jungle
Participant@lexington wrote:
Whoa – check out the rims on that baby! ๐
Thanks jungle – how do you feel about it’s look in the flesh? (Well flesh in the making).
From the outside it looks like so many other airports I’ve seen the world over. It’s not a bad design, but there is little originality.
I can’t imagine that the inside will show any hugely original touches either, but as long as it cleans up the situation where 8 flights are trying to use 2 baggage belts at 9pm on a Friday evening I’ll be pretty happy as one of the airport’s most regular users.
August 10, 2005 at 2:02 pm #757754lexington
Participant๐ You may remember I promised details on a docklands project not so long ago – well I’m reliably informed that the project will now seek planning.
Destined for the Nat Ross premises along the Monahan Road, in the South Docklands, Niall & Sheila Doris (owners of the Beverly Smyth Group – which owns Nat Ross) are seeking permission to construct 104 residential units and 3567sq m of business/technology facilities over a large basement car-parking facility. A creche will also be included in the development, valued at approx. รขโยฌ40m. The architects for the project are SDA O’Flynn, now based along Skehard Road – the layout of the proposal will form 5 linked buildings with 2 @ 4-storeys, 1 @ 6-storeys, 1 @ 8 storeys and 1 @ 10-storeys. I understand that 5 2-storey terraced houses will also be included in the plan.
The project, along with McCarthy Developments’ plan for a new 8-storey office building (designed by Murray O’Laoire) along Centre Park Road, issue the first concrete steps in the redevelopment of Cork’s South Docklands.
A decision on the development is expected for the 6th October 2005.
Images soon.
*UPDATE*๐ Also worth noting today is Tom O’Riordan and his plans for the Western Star pub along the Western Road. Mr. O’Riordan intends to construct 12 new medical suites following a partial-demolition of the infamous student bar – the proposal will link up with the access route in place to the Bons Secours Hospital across the river. Wilson Architecture are behind the design.
August 10, 2005 at 4:08 pm #757755Radioactiveman
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Cork Heritage Open Day will see nearly 30 of Corkรขโฌโขs most fascinating buildings many of which have never been by the public before, open their doors free of charge for one day only on Saturday September the 10th 2005. The Lord Mayor Councillor Deirdre Clune, will open this exciting event at 9.30 a.m. by visiting the historic home of the Lord Mayor of Cork at the Mercy Hospital Mansion House.
Cork Heritage Open Day is a unique event which will be held on Saturday the 10 th of September 2005, celebrating the amazing architecture and history of the Built Heritage in the Cork City Region.
Corkรขโฌโขs Built Heritage tells the tale of wars and peace, learning and praying, high living and humble beginnings through buildings such as Collins Barracks, Blackrock Castle, The Life time Lab, The Unitarian Church, The Clarion Hotel Penthouse and Frank O Connor House to mention a few.
Many of these breathtaking buildings have never been open to the public in this manner before and are relatively unknown to visitors and the citizens of Cork. Cork Heritage Open Day invites you to explore Corkรขโฌโขs hidden treasures and enjoy the unique story of Corkรขโฌโขs Built Heritage.August 10, 2005 at 9:26 pm #757756A-ha
Participantwow jungle, impressive picture. how did you manage to get so close? ๐
August 11, 2005 at 9:43 am #757757jungle
Participant@A-ha wrote:
wow jungle, impressive picture. how did you manage to get so close? ๐
It was taken from my camera phone when I was boarding a flight to Amsterdam.
August 11, 2005 at 11:15 am #757758lexington
Participant๐ Howard Holdings have been taken to appeal by David Matthews (Matthews Centre) regarding their plans for a new 7-storey Comfort Inn at No.16 Lavitts Quay, design by Reddy O’Riordan Staehli. The รขโยฌ20m project was recently greenlit by CCC – images are featured of the development earlier in this thread. The project, which was subject to substantial revisions, features 7-storeys to the rear of No.16 Lavitts Quay (which will be incoprorated for cafe and office use), a retail unit, basement parking and just under 114 rooms (following CCC conditions).
๐ Atlas Developments (a John Cleary Developments enterprise) has been greenlit for a noteworthy light industrial/business proposal along the Old Mallow Road. 21 units are to be constructed over 3 floors and a 54-space basement car-park. The building will equal 2292sq m in floor space. Niall Fitzsimons were Consulting Engineers on the scheme,
๐ฎ The appeal against the Country Club Hotel in Montenotte, which was seeking to extend with a development of 18 no. executive suites, leisure and fitness centre and 19 no. holiday units, has been withdrawn – this paves the way for progress on the hotel’s expansion.August 11, 2005 at 12:22 pm #757759Radioactiveman
Participant@lexington wrote:
๐ Howard Holdings have been taken to appeal by David Matthews (Matthews Centre) regarding their plans for a new 7-storey Comfort Inn at No.16 Lavitts Quay, design by Reddy O’Riordan Staehli. The รขโยฌ20m project was recently greenlit by CCC – images are featured of the development earlier in this thread, which I will try and get back up for this post later tonight. The project, which was subject to substantial revisions, features 7-storeys to the rear of No.16 Lavitts Quay (which will be incoprorated for cafe and office use), a reatil unit, basement parking and just under 114 rooms (following CCC conditions).
As well as being a god awful design, this Hotel will block out one of the very few views on Shandon from St. Patrick Street.
Next time you’re outside River Island look straight up Maylor Street – its pretty impressive.
I know the Development Plan protects views of listed buildings so thats another reason why i’d support David Matthews appeal.
Speaking of St. Patrick Street, the new shopfront on the AIB adjacent to Penneys is a beauty. In particular the side of the building heading down along Robert Street is beautiful- really sleek and very well finished in limestone. It was worth the wait!
AIB at the other end of the street (adjacent to Waterstones) will close when this one opens. This will leave another vacant store on the Street! Unlike some of the others though, this is of a more attractive size for retailers i’d imagine.
What do people think of the new apartments gone up on Blarney Street- the rear of which are most visible from Bachelors Quay, etc. They certainly make a big impact on the skyline in this sensitive area. Thank god they used pitched roofs- architects (or maybe that should be accountants?) seem to have an obsession with nasty flat roofs even when pitched roofs dominate in a particular area.
I’ll try to post some pictures of the Blarney Street development in the next few days.
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If you haven’t voted already you can do so here.BMW, Leipzig
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August 11, 2005 at 1:26 pm #757760securityman
Participant@lexington wrote:
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๐ Atlas Developments (a Noel O’Flynn enterprise) has been greenlit for a noteworthy light industrial/business proposal along the Old Mallow Road. 21 units are to be constructed over 3 floors and a 54-space basement car-park. The building will equal 2292sq m in floor space. Niall Fitzsimons were Consulting Engineers on the scheme,
.Is this a seperate building to the warehouse being built at the moment on the old mallow road next door to Flemings development for Blackpool Bowl & Leisure
August 11, 2005 at 2:05 pm #757761jungle
Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
AIB at the other end of the street (adjacent to Waterstones) will close when this one opens. This will leave another vacant store on the Street! Unlike some of the others though, this is of a more attractive size for retailers i’d imagine.
I can see that being demolished and something new built there. A store won’t easily go into an old bank. Also, (from memory) a lot of the building is only one storey.
August 11, 2005 at 2:08 pm #757762Leesider
Participant@jungle wrote:
I can see that being demolished and something new built there. A store won’t easily go into an old bank. Also, (from memory) a lot of the building is only one storey.
How about a bar?? Doubt if they would allow it on Patrick’s St though!
August 11, 2005 at 3:34 pm #757763Radioactiveman
Participant@jungle wrote:
I can see that being demolished and something new built there. A store won’t easily go into an old bank. Also, (from memory) a lot of the building is only one storey.
I think you’re confusing the AIB Bank with the Bank of Ireland nearby- this was refurbished about 3 years ago.
There is no chance of AIB being demolished it is almost definately a listed building.Here it is:


Seems a shame if this was to turn into another monsoon or some other foreign fashion shop.
On a totally unrelated subject: as was discussed recently on this thread, The Grand Parade is being re-modelled. It’ll be interesting to note what is done with the bollard located near the entrance of Bishop Lucey Park. I hope the powers that be have the good sense to leave it where it is. It’s made from the inverted barrel of a canon and is one of my favourite little gems on the streets of Cork. It’s apparently unknown where it comes from, but for my money, i’d say its a remnant of the statue which used to be positioned where the National Monument is now. They’re circled in this Cork Camera Club image. Can anybody shed any more light on the subject?
Note the horse in the centre of the pcture is where the street gets its Irish name Sraid an Capaill Bui (Yellow Horse Street), although that particular shade of yellow is slightly exagerated ๐
There’s a great story about the statue. Apparently it was always a bit on the wobbly side and began leaning over soon after it was constructed – you can see the struts supporting it in the image below. One night some “tired and emotional” inhabitants manages to push King George off his perch and into the river. The bronze statue was apparently melted down but it’s head remains somewhere in England- or so the story goes.Sorry for this little aside- but it is the silly season after all! ๐
August 11, 2005 at 8:53 pm #757764A-ha
ParticipantA while back, someone posted a message about a crematorium being built on Howbouline island? Anyone got some updates on this? And securityman, any idea when Harvey Norman are due to open it’s doors to the public?? I expect it will create a huge amount of competion between both PC World and Soundstore.
August 12, 2005 at 12:32 am #757765lexington
Participant๐ Oyster Developments are to now seek permission for the 2nd Phase of their Deane Street/Parnell Place office development. Previously, architects The e-Project, applied on behalf of the Killarney-based development company, to develop a new 7-storey office building on the former O’Brien premises to the rear of No.8 Parnell Place – the latest application will seek to incorporate No.8 Parnell Place (a PS) calling for permission to change usage of the premises from retail and storage, to office on all 4 floors. The lodgement includes proposals for changes (replacement) of the central windows along the western elevation (fronting Parnell Place), creation of space for a roof-light area and 4 large openings on the northern (Bus Station) elevation.
The images below show 1. No.8 Parnell Place (western elevation) fronting the street. and 2. The new office building in relation to No.8 (which can be seen to the right of the office building) – this is a perspective of the northern elevation which will be subject to the 4 new light opening features.
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Nat Ross RedevelopmentFor the life of me, I have no idea why my images of the Nat Ross site won’t upload – however, the project by Niall & Sheila Doris – seeks (as mentioned previously) to construct 104 residential units over 3 4-storey blocks, a 7-storey block and 10-storey tower all interlinked – over 2 floors of business/technology accommodation and basement car-parking. A creche and 5 2-storey terraced houses will also form part of the project – I believe Johnathan Horgan (open for correction on that) with SDA O’Flynn was involved in the project design. The site is not far removed from Centre Park House and the Goldcrop site now being redeveloped by McCarthy Developments as an 8-storey, 100,000sq ft office scheme. The actual Nat Ross is not as large as you may actually think, but indeed sufficient. I wonder how planners will judge the scheme – though I believe the docklands are more than sufficiently capable of hosting buildings of this height (peaking a 10 storeys) and certainly perhaps, some taller buildings closer to the waterfront – the Nat Ross site borders close to residential areas and this may have some impact on the project in terms of submissions, conditions etc. The lower height buildings will edge closer to the residential areas – however the site is adequately well shielded by groupings of relatively tall trees to the south of the site – which should help minimise any negative impacts residents may be concerned about.
As I said, images will come soon and in the event of their absence, and the further absence of site images (for the time being) – a simple map outlining the approximate (not dead-on) location of the Nat Ross site (and the McCarthy Developments scheme nearby) is posted below. Sorry – it’ll have to do until I can get someone more technically apt than myself to sort out the problems with uploads. ๐ฎ
August 12, 2005 at 10:26 am #757766jungle
Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
I think you’re confusing the AIB Bank with the Bank of Ireland nearby- this was refurbished about 3 years ago.
My mistake. You are correct.
My excuse is that I bank with Ulster Bank and don’t need to know which is which ๐
August 12, 2005 at 1:00 pm #757767lexington
Participant๐ Ridge Developments are today erecting a new tower crane over Paul Montgomery & Edmund Kenneally’s Phase 2 site of Victora Mills, designed by Derek Tynan & Associates. The 2nd Phase development will range in height between 5-storeys to the rear (south) and 4-storeys fronting Victoria Cross – over an extended basement. A large commercial unit will occupy much of the ground floor area and 31 student apartments will form the remainder of the project.
๐ Frinailla Developments have donated a six-figure sum to the Cork2005 fund – joining the likes of OCP, Bowen Group and Shipton Group, who have also donated generously. As recognised by Director of Cork2005, John Kennedy ( ๐ ), members of the development & construction community in Cork have been among the most vehement and generous supporters of the Capital of Culture reign. Good show.August 12, 2005 at 2:07 pm #757768securityman
Participant@A-ha wrote:
A while back, someone posted a message about a crematorium being built on Howbouline island? Anyone got some updates on this? And securityman, any idea when Harvey Norman are due to open it’s doors to the public?? I expect it will create a huge amount of competion between both PC World and Soundstore.
Id say by October is the plan, they will bring major competition to the area considering that pc world are moving into Mahon aswell. Id say you could see someone else of that nature moving into the second phase of Blackpool when its open aswell. Anyway its all good for the consumer in Cork.
August 12, 2005 at 3:48 pm #757769A-ha
ParticipantThx securityman, I heard Dixons are keeping an eye on a Cork location, but I believe more of a city centre property, Acadamy St. or the Coal Quay perhaps? And for anyone in the know, what about the crematorium?? ๐
August 12, 2005 at 3:56 pm #757770lawyer
ParticipantA-ha wrote:Thx securityman, I heard Dixons are keeping an eye on a Cork location, but I believe more of a city centre property, Acadamy St. or the Coal Quay perhaps? And for anyone in the know, what about the crematorium?? ]
Dont worry, A-ha.
It will be there in time for you.August 12, 2005 at 4:00 pm #757771A-ha
ParticipantOh my buddah, I love a sense of humour, but I am being totally serious. I really need some information on it and can’t get any on the web, I dont even know if I’m spelling the name of the island correctly! Oh, and there was one supposed to be built in Ovens a few years back (don’t even get me started on the ironic side of it), but the plans fell through. ๐
August 12, 2005 at 4:01 pm #757772Radioactiveman
ParticipantT&C partnership have been given permission by CCC for the complete demolition of what remains of the old Capuchin Church on Blackmore lane (which the company illegally demolished last year).
Both the company involved and Cork City Council should be ashamed of themselves.It seems it is now a free-for-all.
If anybody wants me i’ll be up at St.Finbarres Cathedral with my wrecking ball — I fancy some student apartments and lets face it, who’s going to stop me??
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