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  • #759653
    d_d_dallas
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    …speechless…

    #759654
    ISI
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    From Lexinton’s blog spot. This was the ‘vision’.

    “Developer Tom McCarthy and his wife Michelle McCarthy are devising plans to convert their Jacob’s Mill development to use as a luxury 5-star 35-bedroom boutique hotel. The former mill has lain idle along Father Matthew Quay for almost 45-years and is currently being rejuvenated by contractors O’Flynn of Banteer on Mr. McCarthy’s behalf. The refurbishment design is being handled by Murray O’Laoire Architects with G+A Architects handling interior designs. The redevelopment was originally scheduled to accommodate apartment usage, however a subsequent application will seek a change of use to hotel operations – and the conversion of plans to accommodate 35 bedrooms. It is believed the 20 space parking structure will be retained. The hotel is earmarked to be titled ‘Jacob’s Country House Hotel’.

    Could Tom and Michelle explain where white PVC comes in?

    #759655
    ISI
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    #759656
    kite
    Participant

    @ISI wrote:

    From Lexinton’s blog spot. This was the ‘vision’.

    “Developer Tom McCarthy and his wife Michelle McCarthy are devising plans to convert their Jacob’s Mill development to use as a luxury 5-star 35-bedroom boutique hotel. The former mill has lain idle along Father Matthew Quay for almost 45-years and is currently being rejuvenated by contractors O’Flynn of Banteer on Mr. McCarthy’s behalf. The refurbishment design is being handled by Murray O’Laoire Architects with G+A Architects handling interior designs. The redevelopment was originally scheduled to accommodate apartment usage, however a subsequent application will seek a change of use to hotel operations – and the conversion of plans to accommodate 35 bedrooms. It is believed the 20 space parking structure will be retained. The hotel is earmarked to be titled ‘Jacob’s Country House Hotel’.

    Could Tom and Michelle explain where white PVC comes in?

    😮
    The Midas touch seems to have deserted Tom McCarthy at the moment, his Kingsley Hotel project is gone down “UGLY Street” as well as Jacobs Mills.

    #759657
    lexington
    Participant

    If any of the content below has been posted already (and I know some of it has) – please accept my apologies in advance; just posting for my own records as much as anyone else. Still jet-lagged and attempting a world record for longest a person has gone without sleep before hallucinating. 😉



    😮 Bernard Crowley & Gerard Paul have been greenlit to develop 49 new apartment units over a 6-storey building designed by Dennehy + Dennehy Designs. An Bord Pleanala cleared the revised scheme (with conditions) set for the former Riverside Farm site along the Model Farm Road opposite the recently redeveloped Tennis Village complex (now Eden Hall). As part of the scheme the developers will be obliged to make realignments to the what is currently a dangerous bend on the heavily trafficked roadway – thus providing a safer routeway for pedestrians and motorists alike. Additional details on this scheme may be found in earlier posts.



    😎 Frinailla’s plans to develop 96 residential units and a creche over basement car-parking for the former Keating’s Bakery site along the Tramore Road have seen Further Information requested of them. The scheme provides a mix of couple and family units between 1 and 5-storeys designed by Kiosk Architects.

    – meanwhile the other Frinailla/Kiosk Architects collaboration at CitySquare along the Watercourse Road in Blackpool is now watched over by a 2nd John Paul Construction tower crane. Interestingly is the banner which hangs for the new tower crane displaying the new Frinailla logo in place of the usual John Paul Construction symbol.



    😮 Billy and Ciaran O’Riordan, proprietors of the Millfield Service Station, have enlisted James Leahy & Associates to design their recently lodged scheme of 54 mixed apartments and seperate office block over basement car-parking and including all associated ancillary amenity areas along the Redforge Road located petrol station in Blackpool. The project will be divided over 2 blocks rising to 6/7-storeys. The scheme should help build on this fast emerging area currently anchored by the Shipton Group’s Blackpool Park scheme.



    😮 Much anticipation has pent up regarding Rockfell Investments’ Cornmarket Street scheme, however, a positive progression has been made today as William O’Brien Crane Hire were in action over the large site today erecting the first-section of a tower crane on behalf of Munster Joinery. Meanwhile, further progress is in swing along this prime potential street with Cork City Council having tendered for architectural and engineering design concerns regarding the street’s rejuvenation as previously posted.


    #759658
    d_d_dallas
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    “…their Jacob’s Mill development to use as a luxury 5-star 35-bedroom boutique hotel…”

    says it all. how can it be 5 star and yet be a boutique hotel? Don’t think there’s many of either around with such an atrocious and ignorant approach to reusing existing structures. ESPECIALLY on such an important vista on the South channel.

    #759659
    ISI
    Participant

    I don’t know how this act of vandalism was allowed happen.

    #759660
    ISI
    Participant

    I was down by the quay so I took a few photos of progress on the School of Music.

    #759661
    lisam
    Participant

    jacobs – the original planning drawings specified timber windows!!!

    #759662
    lexington
    Participant

    😮 Interesting to see the Painting & Decorating company has moved retailling from a wonderful redbrick premises at the corner of Parnell Place and Lower Oliver Plunkett Street, formally called Nelson’s Quay. The business has relocated to a suburban business park and leaves open the possibility of a sensitive (very sensitive) renewal opportunity at this location. Arthur O’Connor who possesses a pivotal corner site directly opposite Nelson’s Quay (across Oliver Plunkett Street) has set about refurbishing the building’s upper floors into a residential townhouse – pity that this entire corner from the Barber Shop around the corner and back to Deane Street hasn’t seen redevelopment activity to date – as this area is out of sync and an eye-sore on what could be an better measure and more tasteful larger scale development. However that may soon change.

    😮 Also interesting is Gerry Barrett (of Edward Holdings/Monogram Hotels) and his involvement backing Topaz Energy’s acquisition of Statoil Ireland for the €285m. Topaz Energy, which is majority held by Ion Equity, and is already active in forecourt trading through its Shell Ireland operation will likely seek to merge activities between the 2 brands. As part of the acquisition, Topaz attains Statoil Distribution facilities in Dublin, Cork and Galway, among other centres. It would be interesting to see if merged trading activities free-up lands here for development. Notably, it could allow in activity transfers by Shell to more accessible Statoil facilities (such as those at the Tivoli Docks) – an example like that of Shell’s Cork Docklands facility could be a possibility. Currently Shell engages in costly distribution transfers of its deposits between facilities in Cork by vessels (petroleum is refined at its Ringaskiddy facility and transported to Centre Park Road for distribution – operationally it would make more sense to locate a distribution centre closer to the source of refinement or at a more accessible site; petroleum is offloaded on the quays at Marina Commercial Park and pumped across Centre Park Road to its distribution facility). It may make long term sense to wind up activity at the Docklands site in light of a new facility gained through the Statoil acquisition and allow the Cork Docklands site seek redevelopment. Would Gerry Barrett be interested in such an opportunity? Its all a speculative long-shot of course, but then again, Mr. Barrett has been sizing up opportunities in Cork over recent times and has made moves such as the purchase of a 4.25 acre commercially zoned site along the Airport Road for €13.8m. It is believed not to be his sole consideration in the Cork market over the coming future.

    #759663
    Lincoln
    Participant

    Mill on Fr Matthew Quay development: “Jacobs “Mill

    what a horror show-! surely this does not conform to the conditions of planning! I believe that Murray O Laoire Architects who prepared the planning permission for the mill have had no involvement in the construction of the hotel buildng and that there is effectively no professional guidance on the project other than the structural engineer! this is like the bad ol’ days when the architect was regarded as only good enough to get the planning and then is not required when you have to build it .

    They should be injuncted and forced to build as per the planning conditions – this building is too important and prominent to let a developer get away with such shoddy treatment of our city fabric.

    #759664
    who_me
    Participant

    @Lincoln wrote:

    Mill on Fr Matthew Quay development: “Jacobs “Mill

    what a horror show-! surely this does not conform to the conditions of planning! I believe that Murray O Laoire Architects who prepared the planning permission for the mill have had no involvement in the construction of the hotel buildng and that there is effectively no professional guidance on the project other than the structural engineer! this is like the bad ol’ days when the architect was regarded as only good enough to get the planning and then is not required when you have to build it .

    They should be injuncted and forced to build as per the planning conditions – this building is too important and prominent to let a developer get away with such shoddy treatment of our city fabric.

    Incidentally, what are the plans for the open section in the front wall? I assume it’s for a glass frontage, but it would be pretty horrible if it ended up being PVC bordered glass panes.

    #759665
    lexington
    Participant

    @who_me wrote:

    Incidentally, what are the plans for the open section in the front wall? I assume it’s for a glass frontage, but it would be pretty horrible if it ended up being PVC bordered glass panes.

    The frontage, as par the granted plans, calls for a glazed frontage.

    #759666
    POM
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    Hope you’d a nice holiday Lex.

    Just on the plans for the Muskerry Service Station at the Western Road. I had a little visit to view the plans for myself over the week. I saw today only 3 objections lodged on the project. Honestly I have to say of all the projects in planning at the moment this is perhaps the one that is ripe for controversy. It happens to be a rather awful dire contraption. The architects were marked as DTA Associates which I understand is Derek Tynan work again, the same team that gave us the awful Victoria Mills, the even worse extension to Victoria Mills and the equally terrible office building planned for Crosses Green. Again DTA seems on an ambitious mission to even top its other mistakes with what is essentially a half glass, half stone wall pair of blocks. From the photomontages it seems the buildings will jut close to the roadside blocking views down the Western Road of the infinitely more attractive new Jurys and create an eyesore viewing up the Western Road from the city along the river. It essentially rises up facing the road as a bare stone wall with only a few slits for windows. Awful awful stuff.

    #759667
    kite
    Participant

    @Lincoln wrote:

    Mill on Fr Matthew Quay development: “Jacobs “Mill

    what a horror show-! surely this does not conform to the conditions of planning! I believe that Murray O Laoire Architects who prepared the planning permission for the mill have had no involvement in the construction of the hotel buildng and that there is effectively no professional guidance on the project other than the structural engineer! this is like the bad ol’ days when the architect was regarded as only good enough to get the planning and then is not required when you have to build it .

    They should be injuncted and forced to build as per the planning conditions – this building is too important and prominent to let a developer get away with such shoddy treatment of our city fabric.

    😮 I agree that Murray O Laoire Architects seem to be redundant in the redevelopment of the Jacobs Mill site.
    Tom McCarthy and Tom Kelly are taking the same “direct labor” type approach to the Kingsley hotel redevelopment, again with disastrous results.
    It must be embarrassing for Murray O Laoire, or any other professional company to have their names linked in any way with this type of development, (that said, wasn’t it a “professional” body that gave Victoria Mills an award last year?)

    #759668
    mickeydocs
    Participant

    @POM wrote:

    Hope you’d a nice holiday Lex.

    Just on the plans for the Muskerry Service Station at the Western Road. I had a little visit to view the plans for myself over the week. I saw today only 3 objections lodged on the project. Honestly I have to say of all the projects in planning at the moment this is perhaps the one that is ripe for controversy. It happens to be a rather awful dire contraption. The architects were marked as DTA Associates which I understand is Derek Tynan work again, the same team that gave us the awful Victoria Mills, the even worse extension to Victoria Mills and the equally terrible office building planned for Crosses Green. Again DTA seems on an ambitious mission to even top its other mistakes with what is essentially a half glass, half stone wall pair of blocks. From the photomontages it seems the buildings will jut close to the roadside blocking views down the Western Road of the infinitely more attractive new Jurys and create an eyesore viewing up the Western Road from the city along the river. It essentially rises up facing the road as a bare stone wall with only a few slits for windows. Awful awful stuff.

    Can someone please post some pics of the jurys site if they get a chance? It would be very much appreciated by an exiled corkonian.

    #759669
    POM
    Participant

    @kite wrote:

    😮 I agree that Murray O Laoire Architects seem to be redundant in the redevelopment of the Jacobs Mill site.
    Tom McCarthy and Tom Kelly are taking the same “direct labor” type approach to the Kingsley hotel redevelopment, again with disastrous results.
    It must be embarrassing for Murray O Laoire, or any other professional company to have their names linked in any way with this type of development, (that said, wasn’t it a “professional” body that gave Victoria Mills an award last year?)

    I don’t think the building projects are direct labour. O’Flynn Banteer Builders are working on both sites for the developer.

    #759670
    lexington
    Participant

    I’m just putting this post up here to answer some questions I get asked quite often so as to clear up or inform those who seek details. Sorry if I step to one-side from prime topics for a moment.

    1. Aviation Development

    I posted a few weeks back of news on a possible aviation development related to Cork which I would try and make known before July. I have held back on details as I do not have clarity on a number of issues – again, I may post some details as ‘speculation’ in the absence of such details. However the development does not relate to Cork Airport or the Cork Airport Authority.

    2. Abercrombie & Fitch

    Apparently some persons have not forgotten the post I made last July (2005) regarding the prospect of an expansion by highly popular US-based fashion chain Abercrombie & Fitch into Europe and possibly Ireland. The details here have mixed and matched over the last few months following a stir up in management with the company, most notably the resignation of Chief Operating Officer Robert Singer in August 2005 after only 15 months with the company. It was Mr. Singer who had championed the expansion of the chain into Europe and aided the set-up of a European-division based in Milan and headed up by former Gucci executive Francesco Giannaccari. A&F had agreed terms to open its 1st European store at Burlington Gardens situated off Bond Street, Oxford Street and Saville Row in London. The unit which A&F had intended to occupy was tenanted by retailler Jil Sander. Under Mr. Singer, A&F sought to open up to 20 stores across Europe – Ireland had indeed been cited as a destination for up to 2 possible stores in the short-to-medium term although this was never formally confirmed. Other locations cited included additional stores in the UK (and specifically London), Spain, Italy and unspecified Scandinavian locations. CEO Mike Jefferies has indicated recently that A&F is still committed to expansion in the UK, Canada and selected European markets but will do so cautiously. As I understand it, again, Ireland is well positioned given the generally high mark-up by many recent international trading names established here. Along with the UK, Ireland is increasingly seen as a ‘safe’ location for expanding US chains such as Guess? Jeans who are eyeing up a unit in a prospective retail development by Paddy McKillen’s Clarendon Properties just off Grafton Street in Dublin. Based on information a few months old, were any expansion into Ireland initiated, Dublin would represent the initial trading location (preferably city centre) with additional moves made based on the store’s performance, however regional expansions were not ruled out – though the individual markets remained unassessed. Outside the UK, other possible locations shortlisted for investigation included Barcelona and Milan. No set timeframe for a roll-out is clear. Undoubtedly such a prized catch would represent nothing short of a coup for proposals in locations like Academy Street, Joe O’Donovan’s plans or even the plans of Manor Park Homebuilders. Wishful thinking perhaps? :rolleyes:

    The company operates 352 Abercrombie & Fitch (premium brand) stores, 163 Abercrombie (children’s clothing) stores, 289 Hollister Co. (slightly lower cost clothing) stores and 6 RUEHT stores across the US and Canada.

    #759671
    kite
    Participant

    @POM wrote:

    I don’t think the building projects are direct labour. O’Flynn Banteer Builders are working on both sites for the developer.

    🙂
    What I meant by direct type labor is that Tom McCarthy’ Mills development and his and Tom Kelly’s Kingsley development are been directed by their own management team.
    Any snags or penalties fall back on the owners, not the builder, engineers etc. An unusual way of doing business on developments of this size I would think?

    #759672
    lowrise
    Participant

    In connection with victoria cross area , could any enlighten me as to whats happening to topcar garage at orchard road.thanks.

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