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  • #759513
    shrink2cork
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    Just got in the mail, Cork City Councils South Docks Local Area Plan looking for submissions. They have already decided the make up and use of this urban quarter

    #759514
    ewankennedy
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    @shrink2cork wrote:

    Just got in the mail, Cork City Councils South Docks Local Area Plan looking for submissions. They have already decided the make up and use of this urban quarter

    So what have they decided so far? Any mention on building heights?? Uses??

    #759515
    Pug
    Participant

    Shipton Group are on final phase of Blackpool, due to finish it out in July / August – will there be a move on Douglas / Carrigaline after that do you reckon?

    #759516
    lexington
    Participant

    😮 Today, Wednesday 31st May 2006, saw the final day for submissions due on the application by Frinailla Developments’ proposal to redevelop the much neglected former Keatings Bakery site along the Tramore Road, only a stone’s throw away from the South Ring Dual-Carriageway – offering superb access to either end of the city proper. Lodged toward the end of April, the residential scheme has received 9 seperate submissions from various parties (resident and local representatives alike) – the proposal seeks to rejuvenate the site with a mix of 96 spacious units over basement car-parking and a 399sq m creche. In all, the scheme will incorporate 16x 1-bedroom apartments, 56x 2-bedroom apartments, 10x 2-bedroom duplexes, 12x 3-bedroom apartments and 2x 3-bedroom duplex units. Frinailla have again enlisted Kiosk Architects, who have previously worked with the developer on schemes which include Springmount, Glanmire and CitySquare, Blackpool (under construction). Kiosk have emerged on the Cork architectural scene as a practice of both innovative and distinct character – among their best known completed works may be found along South Main Street in Cork city centre (i.e. the popular Wagamama/Captain America/Suas premises).

    For more details on the Tramore Road project see here.


    Aerial view of the former Keatings Bakery site – now the subject of a new proposal by Frinailla.


    An existing view of the derelict subject site.



    Images of the revival as proposed – a.) as seen fronting Tramore Road; b.) as seen from an internal courtyard.



    City Manager to leave Leeside?

    In this month’s edition of Business Cork magazine (May 2006), a news-brief speculates the possibility of Cork City Manager Joe Gavin taking up the post left by John FitzGerald as Dublin City Manager. The rumour remains unconfirmed by Cork City Council – and here it remains speculation. What does such a prospect mean for Cork? Under Mr. Gavin’s management, Cork has undergone one of its most prosperous revivals – a track record any future City Manager will (should such a post need filling) most certainly be measured comparatively and hopefully seek to sustainably and imaginatively maintain. Mr. Gavin previously held the post of Galway City Manager from 1994 – 2000 and also oversaw various positions in local authorities including those in Sligo, Kildare and Mayo.



    😎 Bernard Crowley & Gerard Paul’s plans to develop 49-apartment units, a gym, basement car-parking and ancillary facilities (designed by Dennehy + Dennehy Design) at the former Riverside Farm along the Model Farm Road has now seen its appeal due date pushed back until June 21st 2006. Further details are posted here.

    – meanwhile, Bernard Crowley’s latest application on a small store site just off Hanover Street (adjoining the recently permitted office scheme by Adrian Power at Clarke’s Bridge – currently in appeal) for a 6-storey office building designed by J.E. Keating & Associates is expected to receive a decision on June 7th 2006. Previously, Mr. Crowley had been refused permission to develop 4x 1-bedroom studio apartments on the small site. Interestingly, the latest application has received an objection from neighbouring property owners John & Michael O’Dwyer – Mr. Crowley subsequently added his own submission to the appeal currently under review on the O’Dwyer’s proposal for an apartment scheme, also along Hanover Street.

    #759517
    kite
    Participant
    lexington wrote:
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    City Manager to leave Leeside?

    In this month’s edition of Business Cork magazine (May 2006), a news-brief speculates the possibility of Cork City Manager Joe Gavin taking up the post left by John FitzGerald as Dublin City Manager. The rumour remains unconfirmed by Cork City Council – and here it remains speculation. What does such a prospect mean for Cork? Under Mr. Gavin’s management, Cork has undergone one of its most prosperous revivals – a track record any future City Manager will (should such a post need filling) most certainly be measured comparatively and hopefully seek to sustainably and imaginatively maintain. Mr. Gavin previously held the post of Galway City Manager from 1994 – 2000 and also oversaw various positions in local authorities including those in Sligo, Kildare and Mayo.

    ]http://www.bailii.org/ie/cases/IEHC/2001/53.html[/url]

    #759518
    ewankennedy
    Participant

    @ewankennedy wrote:

    So what have they decided so far? Any mention on building heights?? Uses??

    Can anyone answer that question?? I’d be very interested to know.

    Also i know I’ve asked this already but no one seemed to answer about O’Flynns having any plans for the South docklands??

    Oh one other thing will there ever be movement on the Mannix site on Washington street? It must have planning almost 2 years at this stage and still nothing. I think along with the Parnell place hotel it is probably one of the most need rejuvenation projects in Cork city centre? Its a shame this has got going. The same should be said for the long long overdue redevelopment of the Kino cinema further up the street. What is happening with these 2??

    #759519
    lexington
    Participant

    @ewankennedy wrote:

    Oh one other thing will there ever be movement on the Mannix site on Washington street? It must have planning almost 2 years at this stage and still nothing. I think along with the Parnell place hotel it is probably one of the most need rejuvenation projects in Cork city centre? Its a shame this has got going. The same should be said for the long long overdue redevelopment of the Kino cinema further up the street. What is happening with these 2??

    The Mannix project, as far as I am aware, is not a priority for the site owners. There are apparently issues with tenants on the site such as the Cork Gay Project and the Flower Shop at the corner of St. Augustine Street – I’m not clear on where these issues stand at the moment. There was speculation that the premises may go up for private sale for redevelopment with a 3rd party – but this would not seem to have materialised. Previously, it seemed certain involved parties weren’t even 100% sure themselves. However I agree, the current state of the site drags much of Washington Street down, the redevelopment would add enormously to the street-scape.


    The single-storey remains of the Mannix & Culhane premises – image copyright of CorkSpace

    As for the Kino, again I can’t give you a definite here, but I believe delays may be related to issues of funding. Of course I am open to correction on all points mentioned here.


    Images of the Kino redevelopment proposal designed by Dennehy + Dennehy Design.

    #759520
    THE_Chris
    Participant

    That looks awful. Why do we want to see a pile of stairs from the roadside?

    #759521
    kite
    Participant

    @lexington wrote:

    As for the Kino, again I can’t give you a definite here, but I believe delays may be related to issues of funding. Of course I am open to correction on all points mentioned here.


    Images of the Kino redevelopment proposal designed by Dennehy + Dennehy Design.

    🙂 Issues of funding and also I believe that one of the owners of Eden hall / Tennis village project owns some adjoining property that may be delaying progress.
    I agree THE_chris, a fire escape surrounded by glass is not an appealing design

    #759522
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @kite wrote:

    @lexington wrote:

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    City Manager to leave Leeside?

    In this month’s edition of Business Cork magazine (May 2006), a news-brief speculates the possibility of Cork City Manager Joe Gavin taking up the post left by John FitzGerald as Dublin City Manager. The rumour remains unconfirmed by Cork City Council – and here it remains speculation. What does such a prospect mean for Cork? Under Mr. Gavin’s management, Cork has undergone one of its most prosperous revivals – a track record any future City Manager will (should such a post need filling) most certainly be measured comparatively and hopefully seek to sustainably and imaginatively maintain. Mr. Gavin previously held the post of Galway City Manager from 1994 – 2000 and also oversaw various positions in local authorities including those in Sligo, Kildare and Mayo.

    ]http://www.bailii.org/ie/cases/IEHC/2001/53.html[/url]

    The City Manager was in Dublin the other day for final interviews for the Dublin City Manager post……..

    #759523
    kite
    Participant

    @yorktown wrote:

    @kite wrote:

    The City Manager was in Dublin the other day for final interviews for the Dublin City Manager post……..

    😉 Fingers crossed then??

    #759524
    lexington
    Participant

    Tomorrow sees the final submission date for proposals on the highly attractive premises that is Cork City Central Library along Grand Parade. Intentions to receive proposals on the site were made known by City Manager Joe Gavin last February – the prospect of a joint redevelopment (including a new 55,000sq ft to 60,000sq ft library) or relocation of the library to a new city centre premises was invited. A number of developers have expressed interest in the valuable premises, among them Ascon, John F. Supple Contractors, Frinailla Developments, the Kenny Group and at least 2 other parties have expressed interest. Ascon have assessed plans in conjunction with Joe Carey and Frank Sheahan to relocate the library to the recently acquired Government Buildings site along Sullivans Quay (as part of a broader mixed-development to include offices). The existing Central Library building was completed on designs by Kelly Barry O’Brien Whelan Architects in 1975 and is set to be demolished as part of any new proposal. The prospect of the site’s acquisition will be one of prestige to the successful developer and open the way for a dynamic commercial development quarter, which may have some room for residential components also. Development at this site should serve to further enhance Grand Parade’s position as a primary retail extension to the Patrick’s Street area (along with Cornmarket Street), but may also build on emerging recreational and residential patterns nearby.


    The Central Library spans 57 – 61 Grand Parade, curiously the limestone facade pictured above remains unlisted on the Protected Structures record.


    The 1975 library frontage onto Grand Parade as designed by Kelly Barry O’Brien Whelan Architects.



    😮 Somewhat related to the details on Ascon above, hoardings were being erected and diggers excavating furiously today in preparation for construction work by the contractors on their Linn Dubh project at Susie’s Field, off Assumption Road and the Blackpool By-Pass. The project will be built to house the new Revenue Commissioners offices – consequent of Ascon’s successful bid in conjunction with Frank Sheahan and Joe Carey, who had attained planning for the office scheme through architects Jack Coughlan & Associates, back in 2003. As part of the winning bid, the developers have acquired Government Buildings on a 3/4 acre Sullivans Quay site facing across the River Lee’s South Channel onto a soon to be rejuvenated Grand Parade.



    😎 DAT Partnership have seen a request called of them by CCC for Further Information yet again regarding their CentrePoint proposal along Clontarf Street. A decision date had been set for June 6th 2006.

    #759525
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    kite wrote:
    yorktown wrote:
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    Perhaps its a case of better the devil you know………

    #759526
    POM
    Participant
    kite wrote:
    yorktown wrote:
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    Why do you feel that?

    On another matter, reading that write up by Frank MacDonald in the Irish Times regarding Academy Street, I’m curious as to why he is giving the scheme so much attention? He has written at least 3 articles this year to my mind on the proposal and its progress in planning. Is it because he genuinely has an interest in the project or is there something a little more questionable at hand (i.e. a little incident last year involving a to-and-fro between he and the subject developer)? Not that I’m complaining, I’m as interested in this scheme as the next man and think it will be good for the city, but even just reading the selected quotes I’m a little curious.

    #759527
    jdivision
    Participant

    In case people missed Cork supplement in Sunday Business Post last week, second phase of Ballincollig town centre retail scheme is now in masterplanning. An additional 100,000 square feet of retail is planned, some of which will be retail warehousing. In addition, a deal has been agreed in principle with a retailer for one of the two large retail units at the Emmet Street end of O’Callaghan’s Academy St. scheme. H&M, Next, Zara and Arcadia are in talks regarding the two units. Arcadia would presumably put Top Shop in there. I wasn’t able to establish which of the retailers has signed the deal in principle – my preference would be to see H&M there and probably Top Shop, which is massively popular in Dublin. The Zara effect seems to have worn off already. Fingers crossed it’s not Next, blandness blandness everywhere.

    #759528
    lexington
    Participant

    😮 Paul Kenny has been granted permission on his plans to develop 32 houses between 2 and 3-storeys on the former John A. Woods premises along the Carrigrohane Road – not far from Cork County Hall. The land, which hosts The Kenny Group’s new Cork offices, measures approx. 2.63 acres – Mr. Kenny sought permission for 26 terrace houses with roof-gardens and conservatories adjacent to the steep “cliff” face on site, with amenity access to the ridge zone for occupants. A further 6 houses were proposed with access to the Curraheen River. Generally, private open space is provided in a combination of roof terrace and access to forest gardens along the escarpment or riverside – while public space is proposed to connect to the bridge and river walkway. The scheme is designed by Murray O’Laoire Architects and came highly praised by the planner who opened his assessment of the scheme stating, “Overall, the proposed development has much that commends itself…”; of the house and landscaping designs it is stated in the planning report, “The quality and size of the units is a significant departure from the norm” and “the quality of proposed landscaping is of a high order”. Again, Mr. Kenny seems to be showing continued evidence of a strong focus on design – another prominent project of his, that of The Treasury scheme along Saint Patrick’s Quay garnered strong praise for peers and planners alike, that scheme was designed by Wilson Architecture. Early word of designs Mr. Kenny is working on for his pivotal Citi Car-Park site at 50 Grand Parade (backing out onto South Main Street) are positive – though clear designs of the scheme have yet to be seen. There would seem to be a recognition that investment in good design pays off.



    😎 Blackpool Developments (The Shipton Group) are likely to appeal their scheme granted today for Blackpool Park. Originally, a 6-storey building over 54-space basement car-park with 30 apartment units and ground floor retail, again designed by Kelly Barry O’Brien Whelan Architects, sought permission for development to compliment the already successful and well-praised scheme. The planner sought it necessary to omit 3-floors from the scheme via condition.



    Western Road Apartment Scheme

    Mentioned first a few weeks back, Paul Montgomery’s plans for a residential scheme along the Western Road on the former Muskerry Service Station site are now scheduled for a decision on July 19th 2006. The scheme is designed by Derek Tynan & Associates (Or DTA Architects as the firm is now labelled) and comprises of 59 apartments over 2-buildings of varying heights between 5 and 6-storeys and basement car-parking for 54 vehicles. The scheme is designed to maximise vistas and perspectives of its riverside location with extensive glazing patterns on the east and southern elevations. The blocks are divided by a break in the forms allowing channelled perspectives from the road to the water’s edge. A mixture of hard, timber and soft landscaping is arranged on site. What is likely to draw controversy however is the treatment of elevations to the north and west which are extensively curtained by stone cladding with intermittent breaks in the form of fenestration. The cubic and steep verticals of these elevations are located close to the roadside and offer an imposing sight. Top floors are recessed. It will be interesting to see how planners consider the application.

    Unfortunately, access to images is limited – the example posted below is of poor quality but reflects the Western Road frontage (northern elevation) of the eastern block. Protruding glazed frontages to the east can be seen facing the river.

    Again apologises for the quality – piteously I don’t have available images to otherwise highlight the scheme in its entirety.

    – the other DTA scheme in Cork that is making talk is that of Victoria Mills’ second phase. The scheme is an extension of the controversial student accommodation development and offers 31 student apartments over basement car-parking and commercial floorspace. The architect has opted for a brown brick finish to the scheme rather than a continuation of the original phase and its lighter render. It has been almost a week since Ridge Developments, contractors on the scheme, have removed the tower crane. Below find some images detailing the scheme’s construction and more recent images following removal of the scaffolding.


    A perspective of the scheme as viewable from O’Neill Crowley Bridge approaching Victoria Cross.


    From the west: the 1st Phase of Victoria Mills can be seen in the background.


    Among the best assets the scheme has is its location next to the Curraheen River – the setting is quite attractive.

    #759529
    lexington
    Participant

    Again, the site location is enviable – the landscaping of the 1st Phase of the development works rather well. The shots below highlight the relationship of Victoria Mills (or as some of its college-year inhabitants amusingly refer to it “Bricktoria Mills” 😮 ) to its setting. *Large Images*

    From an engineering perspective, the scheme garners much to admire – architecturally and presentation wise, it has caused much controversy. The 9-storey block cantilevers at the south-eastern elevation (suspending 7-storeys), hung by deep plate girders located at roof level. These beams span back over many bays providing restraint for the cantilevers.



    *Additional Updates*

    😎 On the matter of Victoria Cross, the other student development nearing completion, University Hall – developed by Fleming Constuction on behalf of University College Cork and designed by Bertie Pope & Associates – is set to see the opening of a new Centra store, secured through agents Hamilton Osbourne King, open in one of its ground floor commercial units. The news should be a welcome boost to area long deprived of functional community facilities – and should be a handy accompanient to the emergining student population.



    😮 Not far away, Cork County Hall’s 17th storey ‘observation and hospitality suite’ is destined to open as a fine-dining restaurant under the management of Masterchefs Hospitality, a Limerick-based catering and event management group. The facility (which includes additional elements of the renewed Cork County Hall), branded under ‘Cork County Hospitality’, will offer state-of-the-art conference facilities with a capacity for up to 1000 persons.

    #759530
    POM
    Participant

    @lexington wrote:

    Unfortunately, access to images is limited – the example posted below is of poor quality but reflects the Western Road frontage (northern elevation) of the eastern block. Protruding glazed frontages to the east can be seen facing the river.

    Again apologises for the quality – piteously I don’t have available images to otherwise highlight the scheme in its entirety.

    Can’t make too much of it out there. Havent been down to the planning office in a while, but must make a point next time I’m there to take a look at this. From the road at least it looks like one of those haunted mansions. That elevation is ghastly! Its like one big wall!!

    #759531
    kite
    Participant

    [quote=”lexington

    😮 Not far away, Cork County Hall’s 17th storey ‘observation and hospitality suite’ is destined to open as a fine-dining restaurant under the management of Masterchefs Hospitality, a Limerick-based catering and event management group. The facility (which includes additional elements of the renewed Cork County Hall), branded under ‘Cork County Hospitality’, will offer state-of-the-art conference facilities with a capacity for up to 1000 persons.[/QUOTE”]

    😮
    Messrs. Tom Kelly and McCarthy of the “renewed”!! Kingsley Hotel missed out on the County Hall top floor pub / restaurant to the Masterchef group from Limerick as Lex pointed out.
    The Kingsley group had proposed a tired seating arrangement for the unit to allow all patrons a view of the lovely surrounding area (Victoria Mills excluded).
    These gents are having a tough time at the moment with the build and aesthetic quality of the Kingsley development, our Presidents driver stayed there this week when the President was in Cork for the freedom of the city, the Presidential Suite named after our Mary however remained empty on the night, maybe the anticipated reduction of star value is not to her taste?

    On another matter, I am delighted that the board of ABP overturned their own inspector and refused the destruction of St. Colmans in Cobh, however does anyone else get an uneasy feeling with the amount of times that this overturning of professional inspectors at ABP level and planners at City Council level is occurring in Cork? 😮

    #759532
    POM
    Participant

    @kite wrote:

    On another matter, I am delighted that the board of ABP overturned their own inspector and refused the destruction of St. Colmans in Cobh, however does anyone else get an uneasy feeling with the amount of times that this overturning of professional inspectors at ABP level and planners at City Council level is occurring in Cork? 😮

    You must consider that the Board themselves are professional planning associates – an inspector report is to provide an evaluation of the scenario and offer a recommendation, not a decision. Often you will see many inspectors include a section detailling recommended conditions should the Bord wish to grant the scheme in spite of their own inclination. Quite frankly, I think the Bord have made a number of wise decisions over the years – had the inspectors rule been implemented we woulld probably be years behind. A good example is the one you cite yourself about St. Colmans, thank Heavens the inspector’s recommendation was turned down!

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