Developments in Cork

Home Forums Ireland Developments in Cork

Viewing 20 posts - 1,261 through 1,280 (of 2,109 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #781978
    Pug
    Participant

    i’d have to say the advertising of Cork County Council also isnt the best say for example in relation to their website – Carrigaline had a traffic survey done in 2006 and recently displayed the results of said survey – the turnout to see it was so bad that they displayed it again on another occasion – the bad turn out being because of the fact that no one knew about it – even the latest display wasnt really advertised – certainly not on the website where i look regularly – definitely not by the local councillors – the only way I heard of it and I live in carrigaline was a newsletter from michael mcgrath td – the survey itself then isnt available online so why bother having a website?

    #781979
    Radioactiveman
    Participant

    Manor Park homes have submitted a further planning application for CIE, Horgan’s Quay site.
    -more information to follow-

    #781980
    Pug
    Participant

    wow, thats interesting news, come on radioactiveman, dazzle us with their plans for a progressive, architecturally pleasing, practical and awe inspiring project at Horgans Quay

    the outright refusal the last time was because they didnt have a masterplan for kent station so they MUST have it this time…….

    #781981
    Radioactiveman
    Participant

    Don’t get too excited Pug!!
    As far as I can see the application is for:
    210 residential units, creche, community facilities, a PORTION of Horgan’s Quay Square, basement parking, a new road off Water Street connecting to Horgan’s Quay, demolition of portion of old boundary wall.
    The 210 apartments are in two blocks (Blocks D & E, suggesting there is much more still to come) to the eastern end of the site. Block D ranges from 2-8 storeys, Block E ranges from 2-11 storeys.
    The portion of Horgan’s Square sought in this application will be laid with grass until such time as the rest of Horgan’s square is developed.
    There appears to be no attempt to integrate the CIE workshop (a protected structure) into the development.

    Apologies for the very summary nature of the post. The full notice is on todays Irish Examiner.

    #781982
    browser
    Participant

    And how can that get permission if their last application was premature in not tying in with Kent station redevelopment?

    In law, a case taken can be struck out at its very beginning if it is frivilous and vexatious. Is there such a concept as a frivilous and vexacious Planning Application? If so, we are looking at one.

    #781983
    Pug
    Participant

    I found that notice (planning notice on inside of back page of the Examiner) – I didnt see much about the waterfront mentioned – there does seem to be more open space mentioned but theres no mention of a Masterplan or redevelopment of Kent station – surely Manor Park havent submitted another plan without the masterplan given this was the prime reason for a refusal by CCC of the first application – maybe CCC has been given the Masterplan – or else CIE and Manor Park are just dragging out the whole thing for some reason – Manor PArk was up for sale recently so who knows what will happen

    Thirteen grounds for refusal were noted including failures to adequately provide for ‘a new Kent Station’, for a National Primary Road, ‘to provide a high quality public realm and public open space’, ‘to provide the Quayside Amenity Area in any form on Horgans Quay’, ‘to conserve the Goods Depot (Protected Structure)’, ‘to provide pedestrian linkages from the development to the City Centre’, ‘Tall building unacceptable as a matter of principle due to location and scale’ and ‘the general building height is contrary to the development plan’.

    Building height proposal is down to 11 storeys, no sign of Kent Station plan, no sign of Quayside amenity, road and open space proposals improved – will we open the bookies on this proposal getting through?

    #781984
    kite
    Participant

    City Manager Joe Gavin has stated his opposition to a piecemeal development on this site (i.e. Kent station again not included) so it will be interesting to see the decision of planners to the application.
    Having said that, if one of the Cork mafia went for the same permission, would they be successful?. I for one would think they would.

    #781985
    Pug
    Participant

    how can Manor Park submit a planning application for a site while an appeal to ABP on their previous application for the same site is still underway? that decision isnt due until Oct 8th unless now its been refused already

    #781986
    Radioactiveman
    Participant

    Well, its always the way, isn’t it? You wait for a big juicy planning application, and then two turn up at once!
    Following on from the Manor Park home application yesterday, Murryforde/TNP partnership have finally submitted there plans for the pivotal Kyrls Quay site.

    They are seeking permission for a 120 bed hotel with bar, cafe, restaurant, conference and leisure facilities; as well as a residential development on site. The proposed development has a ground floor ‘podium block’ form with the hotel element and residential element rising seperately from this. The hotel will be 7 storey over basement, with the residential component (80 aprtments) between 4 and 8 storeys.
    The applicants seek approval for the demoloition of all buildings between Kyrls quay and Kyrls street as well as buildings to the south of Kyrls Street (Cork Timber and Slate; the Cuan Leee Hostel and a stone building dated 1856). Kyrls quay will be made a cul de sac with its closure at the western end (although allowing for Garda access to the Bridewell) and a new pedestrian walkway will be constructed along the line of the old city wall which runs through the site.

    The Kyrls Quay site (top left corner of image; BLOCK 4):

    #781987
    Radioactiveman
    Participant

    On a related note, who are Murrayforde? Do they have anything to do with Frinailla?

    #781988
    PTB
    Participant

    Where does the line of the old city wall pass through?

    #781989
    jungle
    Participant

    The description doesn’t inspire, but I suppose I should wait for some kind of visual representation before making too much of a judgement. It just seems that the quays between the Opera House and the Distillery are being developed in a haphazard manner with no discernible pattern. It’s a pity because the quays on the opposite side of the river are some of the most attractive in the city.

    On the plus side, it could hardly be worse than North Main St shopping centre and it should block the view of that.

    #781990
    Pug
    Participant

    AMGEN postponed indefinetely as per news

    A plan to provide 1,100 jobs in Co Cork has been indefinitely postponed.

    Biotechnology company Amgen was to have provided the jobs in a billion dollar investment at a manufacturing facility in Carrigtwohill, Co Cork.

    However, the company has decided to put off the project indefinitely.IDA Ireland has described the decision as disappointing.

    It said decisions by the US Medicare authorities, concerning some of Amgen’s main drugs, have caused business difficulties for the company.

    Amgen is reducing its staff globally by up to 14%IDA Ireland said the decision to halt the project did not reflect in any way on the business environment in Ireland, and that further investments could be expected over the coming months.

    IDA Ireland said Amgen will retain the Cork site, so that changed circumstances may lead to a recommencement of plans.

    In a statement, Amgen said it will cease all current activities on the site in co-operation with the Government and its agencies, community groups and business participants.

    ‘The decision will affect up to 79 staff, 65 of whom are based in Cork. All staff will be notified regarding the likelihood of redundancy’, according to the statement.

    Amgen said it would work with staff during the consultation period to identify potential options elsewhere in the company. However, it is likely that the majority of people will be offered redundancy packages

    #781991
    samuel j
    Participant

    ‘The decision will affect up to 79 staff, 65 of whom are based in Cork. All staff will be notified regarding the likelihood of redundancy’, according to the statement.’

    Think they like everyone else in East Cork, knew this months ago…

    #781992
    Pug
    Participant

    well if I worked there and I knew that, I would stay too if I thought I would get a few bob

    surely though they might only get statutory redundancy which prob isnt great?

    make you wonder if our beloved councillors knew when the mayor and a few more hopped over to San Francisco to visit Amgen……

    #781993
    samuel j
    Participant

    Very true…. probably stat and bit just to keep it palatable should press get wind of it…

    Even though knew a few working within and most high tailed it ages ago..

    #781994
    kite
    Participant

    @Pug wrote:

    ………………
    make you wonder if our beloved councillors knew when the mayor and a few more hopped over to San Francisco to visit Amgen……

    :rolleyes: In fairness, most of those muppets could not tell you what day it is.
    Wonder if “Micky the lier” will make a statement?

    #781995
    samuel j
    Participant

    Maybe he is having a quiet “Hamlet Moment”…to gather his thoughts….:D Not in public place mind…

    #781996
    samuel j
    Participant

    a

    #781997
    Leesider
    Participant

    2 developemnts I was looking forward to that have got planning but have gone ahead yet, Paul Kenny’s Patrick’s Quay development and the Water St development, is there any news as to when they will be starting?

    Also has anything come of the building for Clontarf St?

Viewing 20 posts - 1,261 through 1,280 (of 2,109 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.