Developments in Cork
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An Bord Pleanala have upheld an appeal by Cork County Cricket Club against the decision by Cork City Council to grant permission to University College Cork to construct a university outreach building and a pair of tennis courts at Mardyke Gardens, adjacent to the new Sli Cumann na mBan/ Banks of the Lee walkway and new pedestrian bridge.
UCC had submitted plans for the development after a previous (larger) design was also refused by ABP. The reason for refusal was the visual intrusion the building would cause on public open space and the effect on the surrounding recreation space.
The building was T-shaped with a exhibition/function/cafe space towards the walkway and a lecture/teaching facility to the west. The western portion of the building was timber cladded, while the exhibition was composed of a large glass facade.
Image above contains the East elevation (bottom; facing onto the walkway) and the South elevation (top; view from Mardyke Walk).We have heard in recent months about “imminent” planning applications for:
1. Kyrl’s quay
2. Kent station
3. Howard / Tedcastle’s site in Docklands.
4. Howard Holdings Event Centre.Anyone any news? Are these imminent in the historic Martin Cullen/CIE/Manor Park usage of that word?
Also any news of Kenny’s Treasury Building. Is it going to be built? They have planning.
@browser wrote:
We have heard in recent months about “imminent” planning applications for:
Kent stationKent station and surrounds is considered in 2 parts,
a) the railway station redevelopment and b) manor park homes application for Horgans QuayThe Manor Park application was for 276 residential units, 8 retail units, 2 commercial units, 3 showroom units, a crèche , a gym , open space , two levels basement car parking, all in 7 development blocks, range in height from 4 to 10 storeys, with a Landmark Building being 20 & 24 storeys in height.
This was despite the Cork Area Strategic Plan released by the City previous to this application, which stated the Horgans Quay area needed to be considered in a planning application in conjunction with a railway station redevelopment (promised originally by M Cullen that it would be complete by end 2007) and also the plan included landmark buildings in specific places in Cork but landmark buildings dont necessarily mean tall ones, it can be ones of architectural merit. The Manor Park plan also didnt seem to consider that the Water St site, immediately adjacent, was refused planning for 17 storeys so why Horgans Quay would be granted planning for 24 was beyond me.
The CASP stated that the development of the North Docks area, being the location of Kent railway station, in close proximity to the City’s bus station and capable of higher residential densities than suburban locations thus becomes a critical part of the implementation of the CASP strategy.
Following 33 objections and their own considerations, the City planners promptly refused the Manor Park plans outright for 14 reasons, one being the fact that the plan didnt include the railway station redevelopment – Manor Park brought it to Bord Pleanala who are due to decide on it by start October. In the meantime CIE have hinted at a station redevelopment (pictures somewhere on this forum – might be Cork docklands or transport thread) but no idea as to when that will happen – the picture of the possible new station remarkably resembles the proposed station redevelopment at Waterford also.
Its unknown now as to how concrete the various development plans created are, because one specific objective of the North Docks Local Area plan was to have a 5000 seater event centre at Kent Station – whereas the event centre will now be located in the South docklands following a recent behind closed doors meeting of the council to choose the developer for the event centre.
There’s a massive hole in the ground right beside county hall. Anyone know what’s being built there?
This building near penrose wharf
Can’t remember this
Student accommodation
CSM
Moores hotel now boarded. Is this being knocked?
Has this restarted?
Another site:
If you stand outside the college of com and look across the river there’s a big crane in your view. It turns out it’s just for some house.
Hotel on South Mall / Parnell Place. Signboards are definitely useful, now I know what this thing looks like. Wish all construction sites had these.
Dunnes. Looks like a bomb exploded back there with the amount of demolished stuff. Anyone have renders for this?
Dunnes:
Academy Street dev. Drilling going on already, I was expecting the site to remain empty for a year or 3 as usual.
Cornmarket street dev
Random building 1. Again a big crane for a not so large site. Anyone know what’s going on here? It’s one of the streets off Grattan Street
Random building 2. Anyone know what’ll happen here?
Juries
This is the site where a petrol station used to be and has been empty for ages. It’s opposite the river from the juries hotel. Sorry to keep asking this question but, anybody knows if there are plans for here?
UCC building extension. Sorry about the bad photo, the sun was right in the way at that time
UCC new IT centre
Hole in the ground beside county hall
Some Apartment block (taken from same area)
Development by Dennehy’s Cross. Seems pretty large, 8 stories.
I was bored the other day so I decided to take the camera with me and walk to Bishopstown instead of taking the bus. In fact the uploading of these photos took longer than actually taking them
Excellent photos as usual Malec. Keep up the good work.
That’s the Breastcheck clinic near the Victoria Hospital. Not sure why there is such a huge gap between the hospital and the clinic. Must be plans for the site.
This has indeed restarted. They painted it a cheap shade of yellow. The ‘roof’ has been painted a darker colour and extensive glazing has now bee added to the middle section of the front facade. Seems to be motoring along now, but don’t ask me what they are doing with it. A boutique hotel was mentioned way back. Its a real shame what happened here.Random building 1.
I believe this is some sort of Nursing training centre associated with the Mercy Hospital.Random building 2.
This is an extension of the UCC owned Lee Maltings site after the movement of Zoology to Distillery Fields. The extension will all form par tof the Tyndall Institute.@Radioactiveman wrote:
Not sure why there is such a huge gap between the hospital and the clinic. Must be plans for the site.
You’d imagine so, but if there were plans for infill, why would they put windows on the hospital side?
Sorry for going back to the Pana/Oliver Plunkett St debate so late after it, but I’m just back from holidays. I quite like the new Patrick St. There are some parts where the pavement is a little narrow, but it’s a huge improvement on what was there before. It would help if traffic levels could be reduced.
The problem with Oliver Plunkett St is that the finish looks cheap. The stone and tarmac bits are OK, if a little uninspired, but the bits where there are tiles looks awful. They’re not evenly spaced and the gaps are too big anyway. Many of the new light poles are already looking tatty. I’m waiting for the first person to dig up some of the pavement and just slap down a little tarmac with the back of a shovel (French Church St, anyone?).
@jungle wrote:
I’m waiting for the first person to dig up some of the pavement and just slap down a little tarmac with the back of a shovel (French Church St, anyone?).
yeah, what’s the story here?? Why haven’t CCC prosecuted Subway or whoever is responsible? Do they even know its happened? I must get apicture of it. The fact that they’ve painted it red to match the paving is beautiful!
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I’ve just had a look at the conditions attached to the granting of permission for that development on Carey’s Lane. This one is interesting:The applicant shall be responsible
for the immediate temporary reinstatement
to make safe any
damage to lane / road / footway
adjoining the development during
the course of the works.
Permanent reinstatement shall
subsequently be carried out by
Cork City Council at the
applicants expense. The cost
shall be calculated in accordance
with the Roads Directorate
Reinstatement Charges
prevailing at the date of the
repair or alternatively the
work shall be carried out by the
applicant at the applicant’s expense
to approved detail and at the
discretion of Cork City Council.Work has started on the cemetery on Carey’s Lane.
@jungle wrote:
You’d imagine so, but if there were plans for infill, why would they put windows on the hospital side?
the HSE is stuck for cash so its going to build windows on buildings facing other buildings so the staff can fling patient records from one building to another without having to email – saves on an IT system
So whats the deal with this traveler thing?
Not sure what/where, but apparently theres murder going on because some residents (Nimbys) fought a highrise development. Now the developer has paid travelers to go onto the site and make a goddamn mess.
Thats all I know, anyone know more or can link to something?
@THE_Chris wrote:
So whats the deal with this traveler thing?
Not sure what/where, but apparently theres murder going on because some residents (Nimbys) fought a highrise development. Now the developer has paid travelers to go onto the site and make a goddamn mess.
Thats all I know, anyone know more or can link to something?
@THE_Chris wrote:
So whats the deal with this traveler thing?
Not sure what/where, but apparently theres murder going on because some residents (Nimbys) fought a highrise development. Now the developer has paid travelers to go onto the site and make a goddamn mess.
Thats all I know, anyone know more or can link to something?
dont think you can call them NIMBYS until you go through the plans for it – there are something like 57 objections to it from locals so its planning appl number 06 31477 – seemed to be a lot of negative comments in the main planners report re the application but then they still granted planning for it
Some plans for Frinailla’s City library project:
View from Grand Parade:
View from South Main Street
View from Tukey Street
Hmmm…
The view from the South Main St side in particular looks very bulky. Tuckey St doesn’t really matter because it’s not wide enough to catch the elevation.
Is Old Post Office Lane to be built on as part of the development or is it retained? There aren’t that many of the old lanes left off North and South Main Streets. I’d hate to see another one gone.
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