Developments in Cork
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- shanekeane wrote:Why anybody thinks that Grand Parade and Patrick Street are anything other than abject failures is beyond me. The paving stones are absolutely revolting, and the idiotic pieces of street furniture make the place look like a whore who’s been all gussied up by a retard.
Agreed Patrick St. is a drab tackfest.
@shanekeane wrote:
The paving stones are absolutely revolting, and the idiotic pieces of street furniture make the place look like a whore who’s been all gussied up by a retard.
Is there really any need for such a ridiculously over the top metaphor as a means of explaining your distaste for a particular urban environment?
shanekeane wrote:I can’t believe the vision that some people have for the cities of Ireland. Some day, the entire country will be a patchwork intricately planned and badly executed redevelopment schemes. Why anybody thinks that Grand Parade and Patrick Street are anything other than abject failures is beyond me. The paving stones are absolutely revolting, and the idiotic pieces of street furniture make the place look like a whore who’s been all gussied up by a retard. Oliver Plunkett Street is similarly revolting]😀 What an hilarious post 😀
I’d disagree with you on all points though.
Red paving….mmmmm so 1990 and just like every city in Britain:)
Cruise’s Street in Limerick. So snazzy!!!He never mentioned Cruises St so why post a picture. He mentioned Bedford Row which I agreee looks very well especially now that a lot of the over head wires have been removed. Cruises Street may possibly be demolished soon if some quarters have their way. And I would agree with him that Cork’s Patrick Street is not the best. Its also a horrible place to be late night (. Only reason i post this is i spent a few days in Cork recently and was particularly blown away by how bad Patrick St looks. There are some awful buildings along the quays as well that just are not ageing well at all but thats another story altogether
Cruise’s Street makes lavish use of red brick for paving and for the buildings themselves. The poster sugested that Oliver Plunkett Street would have been better paved in “red style paving”. I disagree. The fact that there are plans to demolish the ugliness that is Cruise’s Street must be a weight off the mind for all Limerickites 🙂
well i’d definitely agree with the remark about the quays. EVERYTHING from St. Patrick’s Bridge right down to the docks needs to be knocked down. It always amazes me how completely awful and empty the quays in Cork are. A lot of development should be carried out to make them foci of city life
The problem with Cruises St. is hardly the paving stones! There’s nothing particularly good about red paving stones, but at the very least they tend to be something that doesn’t take from their environment. Oliver Plunkett St. looks absolutely awful. Why was it really necessary to retain that little tarmac road in the middle of it, so that the footpath on one side is reduced to a tacky little sliver? The street is narrow enough to be properly pedestrianized, that’s the point I’m making.
@shanekeane wrote:
The problem with Cruises St. is hardly the paving stones! There’s nothing particularly good about red paving stones, but at the very least they tend to be something that doesn’t take from their environment. Oliver Plunkett St. looks absolutely awful. Why was it really necessary to retain that little tarmac road in the middle of it, so that the footpath on one side is reduced to a tacky little sliver? The street is narrow enough to be properly pedestrianized, that’s the point I’m making.
Well that is a good point. Although with access from 5pm to 11am, paving on the roadway could get seriously damaged and stained by delivery vehicles. It should really be permanently pedestriansised but this just isn’t viable.
And I guess the problem with the quays is a universal one (Dock Road, Limerick anyone?). Its just impoosible to get people to move on this sites!! Barring the few notable exceptions@Radioactiveman wrote:
Cruise’s Street makes lavish use of red brick for paving and for the buildings themselves. The poster sugested that Oliver Plunkett Street would have been better paved in “red style paving”. I disagree. The fact that there are plans to demolish the ugliness that is Cruise’s Street must be a weight off the mind for all Limerickites 🙂
The red paving works well on French Church St. and Carey’s Lane, given they’re a much smaller area.
For such a large paved area as Patrick St., I think dark mono-tone paving would be very dull and drab. The use of a mixture of paving stones is one of the things I really like about the street renewal, it adds texture to what would otherwise be a large, bland space.
Well i think it looks awfully cheap. On a main street like Patrick St. the stones need to be a lot bigger.
And obviously the riverside in Limerick is pathetic. But then again the Shannon is probably as wide as the Danube is, and it needs big monumental buildings on it. The Lee is like a little canal, and as such it is amenable to more exploitation for outdoor dining, promenades etc.
@who_me wrote:
The red paving works well on French Church St. and Carey’s Lane, given they’re a much smaller area.
For such a large paved area as Patrick St., I think dark mono-tone paving would be very dull and drab. The use of a mixture of paving stones is one of the things I really like about the street renewal, it adds texture to what would otherwise be a large, bland space.
Hear hear. Look, its a question of personal tastes so no one is right and no one is wrong but I personally think the new St Patrick St is the nicest street in Ireland by a distance. It is anything but cheap looking.
Agree re criticism (esp of tarmac) of Oliver Plunkett st though.
@browser wrote:
Hear hear. Look, its a question of personal tastes so no one is right and no one is wrong but I personally think the new St Patrick St is the nicest street in Ireland by a distance. It is anything but cheap looking.
Agree re criticism (esp of tarmac) of Oliver Plunkett st though.
I live in exile so only get to see Cork on the odd occasion but I have to say that I find the Pana redevelopment to be fantastic, and OP to be a disappointment.
My favourite area though is Emmet Place. There is plenty of pavement space, and I love the understated simplicity. Having the Crawford helps of course.
What I like about Cork’s redevelopment is that we have chosen not to just follow the look and feel of an English town centre, but taken our influence from the continent. This is in keeping with the tradition of Cork with a refusal to look too much to the English for inspiration 😎
@mickeydocs wrote:
What I like about Cork’s redevelopment is that we have chosen not to just follow the look and feel of an English town centre, but taken our influence from the continent. This is in keeping with the tradition of Cork with a refusal to look too much to the English for inspiration 😎
LOL!!! in fairness!
@vkid wrote:
LOL!!! in fairness!
LOL at what. Cork has always had an influence from the continent.
Dublin and Limerick just ape towns in the UK.
Radioactiveman wrote:I have to say though, the amount of vacant retail units is alarming. I won]
I have to say, it’s extremely worrying. You only have to look in Merchant’s Quay to see just how many businesses have upped and left for cheaper Blackpool/Mahon Pt. What’s even more distressing is that we’re losing the small, local businesses that have been in existence in the city for years.I’d say Oliver Plunkett St. has a lot to do with it. There are a lot of new, smaller businesses popping up there; which are bound to have an effect on the (far more expensive) Patrick St.
who_me wrote:I’d say Oliver Plunkett St. has a lot to do with it. There are a lot of new, smaller businesses popping up there]
O.P. Street has more than its fair share of empties as well thoughAnyone know the story re the breastcheck clinic by South Terrace? has gone up at a rate of knots but now theres a massive gap between the building and the maternity hospital – if thats for parking its a bit of a waste I think – the building itself looks ok from looking back to it on south terrace but from the side its awful – distinct lack of windows(yes i know its a breastcheck but the windows could be frosted) and red brick, again not a fan – a well needed resource though
@Carrigaline wrote:
O.P. Street has more than its fair share of empties as well though
True, though some are due to renovations – and it’s more a factor of the city centre starting to expand; so we’re likely to see some vacant premises on all streets for a while, methinks.
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