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  • #781798
    kite
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    @Pug wrote:

    sounds like a tough one – werent they essentially voting on rezoning it for a school? where now do they put the school though?

    It was a tough decision for councillors to make.
    The necessary realignment of the Brian Dillon H&F pitches to allow room for the proposed school puts the pitches under high voltage power lines.
    Another site in the grounds of the Mayfield Community School may now be used and would provide a win situation for all involved as the community school was built to accommodate 800-900 students. Falling numbers over the years has that school with only 300+ students at the moment.
    City management and planners are to blame for dragging this folly out for so long. This planning application, lodged by the Department of Education for development on amenity grounds should not have been validated.
    This is not the first time this type of rezoning pressure was pushed on councillors, Lidl submitted a planning application for industrial land in Churchfield which led to a “Nice Treaty” type rezoning vote i.e. when councillors rejected the rezoning, the manager put the same motion before council members again for a second vote.

    #781799
    kite
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    After more than a year in appeal Barry O’Connor and Robert Kennedy’s Crows Nest site has been approved by ABP.
    The board has insisted as a condition that the height of the building fronting onto the Straight Road should be reduced further to 5 storeys, the original application was for a 15 storey “landmark tower”.
    In hindsight, and in fairness, I for one feel that the new proposal submitted to the board in March 2006 following a request from ABP is a far superior design to the larger Victoria Mills version submitted at the start of this process.

    #781800
    Pug
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    @kite wrote:

    After more than a year in appeal Barry O’Connor and Robert Kennedy’s Crows Nest site has been approved by ABP.
    The board has insisted as a condition that the height of the building fronting onto the Straight Road should be reduced further to 5 storeys, the original application was for a 15 storey “landmark tower”.
    In hindsight, and in fairness, I for one feel that the new proposal submitted to the board in March 2006 following a request from ABP is a far superior design to the larger Victoria Mills version submitted at the start of this process.

    my gut reaction is disappointment that it was reduced to that low, there may be more to it, i dont know – the county hall seems to set a hieght precedent but no other tall building will be allowed there – might be the views of county hall that they want to keep but the only thing I can see coming up the straight road into town is that appaling victoria mills

    #781801
    mickeydocs
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    How many storeys is Victoria Mills?

    #781802
    Pug
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    pron only 2 or 3 but its the box like yellow and brown eastern european just post world war 2 feel look to it thats horrible

    #781803
    who_me
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    @Pug wrote:

    pron only 2 or 3 but its the box like yellow and brown eastern european just post world war 2 feel look to it thats horrible

    More than that if I recall correctly, more like 6 or 7.

    #781804
    Torquemada
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    Hi All, Whats the latest on the Werdna water street development?Is construction beginning soon?How many storeys have been allowed?Also, any update on the Clontarf street project?The small triangular shaped property at the back of the Bus Station?

    #781805
    kite
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    @who_me wrote:

    More than that if I recall correctly, more like 6 or 7.

    Nine storeys of horrible yellow cladding

    #781806
    carrigdhoun
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    @Torquemada wrote:

    Hi All, Whats the latest on the Werdna water street development?Is construction beginning soon?How many storeys have been allowed?Also, any update on the Clontarf street project?The small triangular shaped property at the back of the Bus Station?

    I not sure when the Werdna water st development is due to start. This is what was finally permitted, peaking at 10 stories at the eastern end.
    The Clontarf st project is still tied up in the CCC planning process.

    #781807
    Pug
    Participant

    i imagine that werdna were waiting for the aouth docks plan to come out and confirm that there will be a bridge from their site across to the south docks – the plan is out at the moment for consultation

    i thought clontarf st got the nod for the final storey on the top, maybe its at abp

    o flynns got the nod from ccc for a big extension to Ballincollig Shopping centre incl 444 space mutistorey car park

    #781808
    who_me
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    @kite wrote:

    Nine storeys of horrible yellow cladding

    Ah, apologies. And red brick. Don’t forget the red brick.

    Still, it could be worse. I don’t think anything could be worse then the black(?) cladding on the Copley St. building. Yikes.

    #781809
    carrigdhoun
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    @Pug wrote:

    i thought clontarf st got the nod for the final storey on the top, maybe its at abp

    I stand to be corrected but I think it was the Oyster Developments proposal across the road at Dean st that was granted the extra story by ABP. They applied for 7 stories and CCC granted 6 but on appeal to ABP this decision was reversed.

    #781810
    THE_Chris
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    Tell me its not going to be in that disgusting shade of red.

    #781811
    who_me
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    I was just passing by Clarke’s bridge yesterday for the first time in a while, and noticed what seems like a new warehouse at the rear of the Beamish & Crawford site. I guess it’s not much worse than the rest of it or what was there before, but it does seem a bit more imposing.

    Also noticed the site for the proposed 5 story office development at Clarke’s bridge has been demolished & cleared – looks like this might be going ahead soon. Does anyone have pictures of the revised development here?

    Edit: this was the latest I could find, but I believe it has been substantially altered since, with a reduction to 5 floors.

    #781812
    PTB
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    @carrigdhoun wrote:

    I not sure when the Werdna water st development is due to start. This is what was finally permitted, peaking at 10 stories at the eastern end.

    I read in the Echo that this might not go ahead. Theres a report of sorts being drawn up at the moment to see if it is viable to build it now. A hell of a lot of money was spent in constantly revising the plans, dragging it through constast appeals.

    #781813
    Pug
    Participant

    surely its viable to build with that number of apartments on the site – i think its more of a waiting game, the developers surely wouldnt have gone through the dragged out process they were subjected to with various revisions if they didnt think they would get some sort of planning – they had to know a break even point somewhere – they might wait for the bridge to be built or even more scary, they might wait for Kent station to be developed! Dont forget, M CUllen said the 20 million redevelopment would be finished in 2007. Only a few months left to get started.

    #781814
    Radioactiveman
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    The examiner report that Eason’s are planning on extending their Patrick’s Street store, possibly to another floor. Have they much space at the rear of the site, or are they just going up a floor in the existing building?
    Good article on Pana in the Examiner business section this morning (Cork/Munster edition). Of course it’s not on their website, because nobody outside Cork would be interested in reading about such parochial issues 😡

    #781815
    mickeydocs
    Participant

    Radioactiveman, can you please tell us a little about the article?

    #781816
    Radioactiveman
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    The article dealt with the high level of vacant buildings on St. Patrick Street/Grand Parade and in the Merchants Quay centre and listed the (well-known) redevelopment issues here. Although, the eason’s one was a new one to me.
    It made the very sensible suggestion that at all sites where buildings are empty awaiting redevelopment, e.g. Academy Street, Dunnes, Capitol, signs be erected detailing the plans for the site- to assure residents and tourists alike that this isn’t just an abandoned site; that there’s something ‘exciting’ going to happen here.

    #781817
    Pug
    Participant

    have been in germany looking at property and all the building thats currently going on , bringing the old east germany type buildings to former west germany standards, there is usually a huge poster/banner type thing, sometimes the size of the building, showing what its going to be like when finished – some developments do have posters up around Cork to be fair – its just they might say something like “Development until 2007” and the building hasnt even started

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