Developments in Cork

@ivuernis wrote:

This is a wonderful shot of the new Civic Offices with the contrast in lighting of the City Hall and Savings Bank in the background
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_6321.html

I had been impressed with the new Civic Offices and that whole area is now starting to look really good. Let’s hope the Elysian will look as good when it’s completed.

I’m actually a little surprised by the building. It has a lot of characteristics that I detest about modern architecture – cuboid, metal ‘n’ glass, relatively featureless and embellishment-free.

But the stone (marble?) cladding adds a nice texture, and some subtle touches in and around the windows do add some features to catch the eye.

I have to say, the lighting in that shot looks a lot more subtle than anytime I’ve been by it – it’s normally bright green or pink!

The Enviromental research institute came across awfully in thos photos. It looks like some kind of dilapidated soviet apartment block towards the end of the building.

Another question. Do these buildings go on to the RIBA longlist for the Stirling Prize.?

@PTB wrote:

The Enviromental research institute came across awfully in thos photos. It looks like some kind of dilapidated soviet apartment block towards the end of the building.

Another question. Do these buildings go on to the RIBA longlist for the Stirling Prize.?

When the tourists flock in their droves to witness the architectural gems of Cork that have won awards, let’s hope they do not start with that award winning gem our City Manager, Joe Gavin describes as a beautiful “gateway and landmark”:o site into Cork City i.e. Victoria Mills.
If they do I suspect they may jump on our world class public transport system, go to Cork International Airport, use one of the many airbridges to board their transatlantic flight without getting soaked to the skin, and HIGHTAIL it out of here.
p.s. The ERI looks worse in real life, had to go to a meeting there 3 weeks ago…a real eyeopener!:eek:

@panda wrote:

Its an absolute sickner what has happened to Cork Airport in the last year, the board of directors should log on to Ryanair.com and check out Shannons list of destinitions compared to Cork. This year we have to include Cargo flights on Arrivals to make up the blank spaces. Yes the old terminal was smelly and dated but now we are so expensive in our ivory tower that low cost carriers dont bother using the airport.Easy Jet ,BMi and Czech all gone. Aer lingus are back to there old ways at screwing pas during peak times while cutting daily London Flights since last year. What is to happen to the old terminal why not as Ryanair wanted make it there low cost base ,at present its ramp is only serving corporate jets which is great value to the people of Cork who are paying for there new termainal.

Cork Airport is OUR own fault, we re-elected the geniuses (Martin and his sidekick McGrath, Clune and Coveney) that appointed a board that is made up of a stainless steel manufacturer, a travel agent, a philanthropist, a brewer, and a fish exporter.
The Cork mafia and their “yes men” on the airport board will never allow someone with a name like Mick, who does not roll up his trouser legs and donate large amounts of cash to the “right people” open in the old terminal building, I mean goddamit, he might make a profit and show up the Muppets for what they really are.

@jungle wrote:

I reckon it’s time to sell the airport to the private sector to see what they can manage, because the current system really is not working.
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That is exactly the reason we have the current board of Cork Airport and the controversy regarding the dept.
The private sector would dearly love to snap up the bargain of the century by being able to buy Cork Airport for the bargain basement price of approx 100 million.
The land alone would be worth close on this price, never mind the infrastructure etc.
Some of the multi millionaire Cork property developers that made it by “being in” with the right crowd in City Hall would relish that prospect, now that the property boom has been exposed as an elaborate hoax to suit the chosen few.

@panda wrote:

Its an absolute sickner what has happened to Cork Airport in the last year, the board of directors should log on to Ryanair.com and check out Shannons list of destinitions compared to Cork. This year we have to include Cargo flights on Arrivals to make up the blank spaces. Yes the old terminal was smelly and dated but now we are so expensive in our ivory tower that low cost carriers dont bother using the airport.Easy Jet ,BMi and Czech all gone. Aer lingus are back to there old ways at screwing pas during peak times while cutting daily London Flights since last year. What is to happen to the old terminal why not as Ryanair wanted make it there low cost base ,at present its ramp is only serving corporate jets which is great value to the people of Cork who are paying for there new termainal.

I agree with your general sentiment but just want to make a few factual observations on your post…

Cork has many scheduled and chartered destinations that Shannon does not have
Cargo flights are displayed on the screens due to integration of older legacy systems
Easyjet left because Ryanair bullied them out of it, and immediately after Easyjet left they cut their capacity on the Gatwick route. Now they are trying to bully Aer Arann off the Dublin route.
Of the other two airlines you mentioned… CSA aren’t low cost, and BMi had only a limited presence, BMI Baby are still operating Birmingham and Manchester. Incidentally, when CSA started in Cork, the Prague route was the first proper Central/Eastern European route from Cork. When they left Aer Lingus had started flying to Prague, also Malev to Budapest, Wizzair and Centralwings to 5 cities in Poland. This really diluted CSA’s loads.
Aer Lingus often adjust schedules on the LHR route between winter and summer, but you may have noticed they actually offer increased capacity on some flights now, using a larger aircraft on lunchtime and other flights.
Ryanair wanting to use the old terminal is a very complex situation, suffice to say it’s neither likely, practical or economically possible at present. The old terminal needs substantial renovations to bring it up to standard, while the new one has excess capacity available. Ryanair have a subsidised marketing deal with Shannon, so they’re not going to go competing with themselves out of the nearest airport. All the talk is just to piss off the DAA people. Also, terminal capacity in Cork isn’t the main problem. There isn’t enough parking space for aircraft still, resulting in corporate jets being turned away on occasions. The capital expenditure needed for these works is still dependent on the DAA (the owners) and there’s fat chance of that coming through while the current situation prevails.

Bosco you seem like a man in the know! What is the master plan for the old terminal building and is it vacant since the move.

I’d like to forward a motion that “Lack of” be prepended to the thread title? 🙂

Any new developments/announcements in the pipeline?

Oyster Devts have applied to build 120 apts over 5 storeys + shop and creche on the former Coca Cola bottling plant on carrigrohane rd

@carrigdhoun wrote:

I think it is 5 to 8 stories, with 5 stories fronting onto the Carrigrohane rd and 8 stories at the back of the site. Our “sustainable Development” friends have already confirmed that they will be objecting to the height of the development. I ask you, out the straight road, beside the county hall, with no housing estates around it. If you can’t build 8 stories there where can you build them?

Remember losing general election election canditate and CSD quango opportunist Jerry Buttimer is “Against High rise development and Urban Sprawl”