Developments in Cork
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@Spinal Tap wrote:
Lack of public transport options.
Lack of parking.
Largly residential area.
Lack of Hotel/restaurant/bar facilities.
Roads infrastructure.
Lack of public transport – never stopped a development yet.
Lack of parking – can be built into the 30 acres somewhere
Hotel/retaurant/bar can be built in it
roads infrastructure – shuttle bus to south link road which then gives access to tunnel, airport, the east, the west.
I only threw the suggestion out there, the bottleneck in the road by Pairc Ui Rinn would prob cause grief alright.
@Pug wrote:
Lack of public transport – never stopped a development yet.
Lack of parking – can be built into the 30 acres somewhere
Hotel/retaurant/bar can be built in it
roads infrastructure – shuttle bus to south link road which then gives access to tunnel, airport, the east, the west.
I only threw the suggestion out there, the bottleneck in the road by Pairc Ui Rinn would prob cause grief alright.
True on the transport front ! Our buses stop at 11.15pm.Unless this much promised Luas for Cork heads through Blackrock via the Docklands.
Maybe a bit too far from the City Centre core to suit but the old Munster Showgrounds may be a slightly better location with a redeveloped Pairc Ui Chaiomh with a hotel etc with direct access along the marina.
I wonder what Owen O’Callaghan has planned for his Mahon Point Event Centre Site ?
Expand Centre and link in somehow ?
Anyone seen the piece in todays Irish Times about the Docklands? Among the suggestions are that Howard Holdings are going to apply for 2 20 storey towers for their site when the planning goes in over the summer, and that they expect to be on site this time next year …
Edited because, in the real world, a storey is apparently more than 1m in height. Blame Silvanian families adds on the telly back in the 1980s …
@Aidan wrote:
Anyone seen the piece in todays Irish Times about the Docklands? Among the suggestions are that Howard Holdings are going to apply for 2 20m towers for their site when the planning goes in over the summer, and that they expect to be on site this time next year …
LOL! Not one but two 20m towers 😮 Amazing! Why do we in Dublin not have such asspirations to scale such great heights:rolleyes: 😉
Personally I feel 20m might be a bit overkill for cork.
@darkman”]LOL! Not one but two 20m towers <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eek.gif" alt= wrote:
This is like the Stonehenge Sketch……………………..
few developments I haven’t hear anything about recently, first the proposed development on Clontarf St what is the story with that? And the Kino as well thought that was to get a makeover? Also when is the redevelopment of Dunnes on Pana supposed to be starting?
@Leesider wrote:
few developments I haven’t hear anything about recently, first the proposed development on Clontarf St what is the story with that? And the Kino as well thought that was to get a makeover? Also when is the redevelopment of Dunnes on Pana supposed to be starting?
Dunnes have closed, and several buildings at the rear have already been demolished, so I guess it has started!
FYI,
Christian Brothers School on Sullivan’s Quay is for sale. It closed last year.
Should be prime redevelopment site, although it’s unlikely planners will allow the demolition of the buildings on site.
Good location next to South Gate Bridge and across the river from some massive redevelopment sites at the Central Library and the “Citi-Park”.
A report on the potential merger of two Cork City hospitals is due within the next two weeks. Mercy and South Infirmary hospitals are considering merging on a new “greenfield” site to allow development of both hospitals and to free up their valuable City Centre sites. Greenfield sites at Blarney and Sarsfield Court are being mentioned, as well as a “brownfield” site at the docklands. One has to wonder about the value of a hospital which is remote from the bulk of population.
@Radioactiveman wrote:
FYI,
Christian Brothers School on Sullivan’s Quay is for sale. It closed last year.
Should be prime redevelopment site, although it’s unlikely planners will allow the demolition of the buildings on site.
Good location next to South Gate Bridge and across the river from some massive redevelopment sites at the Central Library and the “Citi-Park”.A report on the potential merger of two Cork City hospitals is due within the next two weeks. Mercy and South Infirmary hospitals are considering merging on a new “greenfield” site to allow development of both hospitals and to free up their valuable City Centre sites. Greenfield sites at Blarney and Sarsfield Court are being mentioned, as well as a “brownfield” site at the docklands. One has to wonder about the value of a hospital which is remote from the bulk of population.
Sullivans Quay is quite a large site going right back to Cove St.What is happening with the city car park site which has been dormant for the past 2+ years.
What is the point of the Mercy moving after spending a fortune on it ? Would the existing newer facility end up as a private clinic ?
Anyone taking bets that the Elysian tower will be complete before Cornmarket St.Shopping Centre ?
@phatman wrote:
Dunnes have closed, and several buildings at the rear have already been demolished, so I guess it has started!
I wasn’t aware this was moving on so quickly! (Unusual for Cork…)
Have images of the development been posted? One of the facades at the front of the building is quite nice, it’d be a shame if it were knocked. 🙁
@who_me wrote:
I wasn’t aware this was moving on so quickly! (Unusual for Cork…)
Have images of the development been posted? One of the facades at the front of the building is quite nice, it’d be a shame if it were knocked. 🙁
The Patrick Street facade is being retained, predictably, it being the original frontage. I do consider it quite bland, but appreciate its significance and it does seem to fit in with the adjoining buildings. As for the new build, a render of the rear end facing Emmet Square was posted way back on the LADSOCL thread, but I don’t have the energy to go trawling through it right now to find it, but I can tell you it was not the most inspiring piece of architecture I have seen, but I’ll reserve judgement for the time being. Design is by Bertie Pope & Associates, but I don’t think there’s anything on their website in the way of images.
@phatman wrote:
The Patrick Street facade is being retained, predictably, it being the original frontage. I do consider it quite bland, but appreciate its significance and it does seem to fit in with the adjoining buildings.
Slightly off topic but everyone thought they were keeping the facade of their Henry Street shop in Dublin too which is currently being renovated but it disappeared into the rubble too despite it not being mentioned in the planning application as far as I could see. Same thing might happen there.
Ellesmere Properties (O’Callaghan Properties) have been granted permission for their development at Half Moon St., Lavitts Quay, Paul Street, Paul’s Lane.
It’s a four storey over basement develolment, of retail and office use.
It will involve the complete demolition of the Matthew Centre, despite the building being a ‘proposed protected structure’. It will retain no. 16 lavitts Quay which is protected. The approximate site has previously gained permission for office use (Examiner Publications) and as a hotel.The redevelopment of this site is to be welcomed. However, a number of points:
1. What is the point in protecting buildings (or propose them to be protected) when the same organisation (CCC) allows them to be demolished.
2. The City Council recently passed Variation no. 3 (Cork City Views and Prospects) to the City Development Plan. One of the buildings, views of which are protected by this variation, is of course Shandon. This development will “completely eliminate” the fantastic view of Shandon from Academy Street/Patrick Street – one of the few views of Shandon left from Patrick Street. The developers argue (and the council seem to agree) that this is acceptable, given that if a previous planning permission had been implemented (permitted prior to this change in the plan) the view would also have been lost. “It would be unreasonable to insist on the current application to reverse the decision already taken in 2004.” A ridiculous argument!
I predict an appeal to ABP on this very matter. The permission is clearly in breach of the development plan.
@phatman wrote:
The Patrick Street facade is being retained, predictably, it being the original frontage. I do consider it quite bland, but appreciate its significance and it does seem to fit in with the adjoining buildings. As for the new build, a render of the rear end facing Emmet Square was posted way back on the LADSOCL thread, but I don’t have the energy to go trawling through it right now to find it, but I can tell you it was not the most inspiring piece of architecture I have seen, but I’ll reserve judgement for the time being. Design is by Bertie Pope & Associates, but I don’t think there’s anything on their website in the way of images.
I think the Dunnes’ building is composed of 4 separate buildings, which have been merged into one. The two centre facades are actually quite attractive (IMO), the other two are nothing special. I think having all four painted the same colour doesn’t really suit, but given how they’re all the one building now it’s likely that’s how they’ll remain.
Out of curiousity, does anyone know if they’re any plans to use (or even widen) the streets/alleys on either side of Dunnes?
The new School of Music looks like it’s well on the way to competition.
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