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  • #781418
    Spinal Tap
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    @jdivision wrote:

    I believe so
    http://www.thepost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=COMMERCIAL-qqqs=property-qqqid=20000-qqqx=1.asp

    Sound correct to me allright as I heard that Habitat were requiring at least 20,000sq.ft and keen to get into the Cork City centre area.

    #781419
    lisam
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    The Half Moon St project includes Tenko & the Matthews centre as well, which will be demolished when planning is granted ( thay haven’t yet applied for planning)

    #781420
    mickeydocs
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    @lisam wrote:

    The Half Moon St project includes Tenko & the Matthews centre as well, which will be demolished when planning is granted ( thay haven’t yet applied for planning)

    Where are Matthews moving to?

    #781421
    Spinal Tap
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    @mickeydocs wrote:

    Where are Matthews moving to?

    No bad thing as the Matthews centre is very poor and a great location underdeveloped.
    I suppose Matthews may well take one of the new units proposed for the site.

    #781422
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Just in case anyone didn’t notice, Manor Park Homes lodged an application at Horgans Quay bofore Christmas. The monster has development comprising 276 no. residential units, 8 no.retail units, 2 no. commercial units, 3 no. showroom units, a cr

    #781423
    Spinal Tap
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    yorktown wrote:
    Just in case anyone didn’t notice, Manor Park Homes lodged an application at Horgans Quay bofore Christmas. The monster has development comprising 276 no. residential units, 8 no.retail units, 2 no. commercial units, 3 no. showroom units, a crèche facility, a gym facility, open space areas (including a first floor podium level open space area and residents roof gardens) , two levels of basement car parking, a temporary access road from Railway Street to Horgan’s Quay to serve future railway concourse building, a new access road off Water Street, demolition of Kent Station Goods Depot ( a protected structure), and demolition of portions of railway yard boundary wall along Horgan’s Quay, Water Street and Railway Street. The 276 no. residential units are located in 7 no. development blocks located generally to eastern end of Horgan’s Quay at its junction with Water Street]

    Appalling stuff allright – looks likes Le Corbusiers scheme for Paris from 50+ years ago.
    Surely there must have been pre-planning discussions on this submission ?
    Those large blocks will never get planning in my opinion.

    #781424
    Praxiteles
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    @Spinal Tap wrote:

    Those large blocks will never get planning in my opinion.

    I would not be too sure of that!

    #781425
    Pug
    Participant

    @Spinal Tap wrote:

    Surely there must have been pre-planning discussions on this submission ?

    You would hope so anyway. (that means no, there wasnt ).

    If there was pre planning then it would appear the unoffical nod has been given to the 20 and 24 storey buildings, which begs the question as to why the Werdna decision
    a)took so long and
    b) was restricted from 17 storey building to 10.

    I imagine it was restricted to keep the views of the people living up on the hill behind it, in which case there must be people living right behind where the 24 storey building will be?

    Decision due on the esso garage in bishopstown today for 5 storey mixed use building

    #781426
    goldiefish
    Participant

    I thought I read here that the plans had been altered in line with objections from residents of the Lower Glanmire road?

    #781427
    A-ha
    Participant

    @jdivision wrote:

    🙂 Gap, Next, H&M, Zara and several Arcadia brands are in talks for Academy Street. They’re planning on trying to get Habitat for the Half Moon site

    What are the chances of them opening up? Gap and H&M would be fantastic, not so pushed about another Next but I really can’t believe Gap was even mentioned. When will we know for definate who’s going in there? And what about TK Maxx?

    #781428
    malec
    Participant

    Don’t like this proposal, not because it’s 20 floors high though. In fact I wouldn’t mind it being that 20 floors high at all, but it needs to be a landmark building not a generic tower block. My way of thinking is the taller the proposal, the better it needs to be, I’d love for something not boxy to be built there, something along the lines of this:

    #781429
    kite
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    @malec wrote:

    Don’t like this proposal, not because it’s 20 floors high though. In fact I wouldn’t mind it being that 20 floors high at all, but it needs to be a landmark building not a generic tower block. My way of thinking is the taller the proposal, the better it needs to be, I’d love for something not boxy to be built there, something along the lines of this:

    I agree with you malec, unfortunately I can never see a building like the one in your photograph being built in Cork as square box ugly designs = maximum floor space to make more lovely money. That along with city planning staff that don’t give a shit as long as the city manager stays off their backs means we are doomed to the likes of Victoria Mills.
    😡 Pity Mr.Gavin won’t have to answer for his mistakes in years to come.

    #781430
    Leesider
    Participant

    they prob blocked the 17 stories for the water st development because it would have blocked the view from and of the 20/25 storey building planned for Horgans quay!!

    And on Kent station, was going through the LAP and the restructuring of Kent station is a prerequisite for any development on horgan’s quay so what is this half arsed approach???

    #781431
    jdivision
    Participant

    @A-ha wrote:

    What are the chances of them opening up? Gap and H&M would be fantastic, not so pushed about another Next but I really can’t believe Gap was even mentioned. When will we know for definate who’s going in there? And what about TK Maxx?

    TK Maxx is expected to make a decision on a Cork location (and probably two) later this year. It won’t be in Blackpool though which was the initial favourite. They wouldn’t be able to pay the Academy St rent so unlikely to open there. Next are looking for a bigger store, hence the link. I hope it’s not them either. It basically depends on how much the others are willing to pay. Gap was mentioned along with the others by a very reliable source, they opened their first shop in Dublin recently and are looking for more outlets, preferably high street to the best of my knowledge.

    #781432
    Cathal Dunne
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    @malec wrote:

    Don’t like this proposal, not because it’s 20 floors high though. In fact I wouldn’t mind it being that 20 floors high at all, but it needs to be a landmark building not a generic tower block. My way of thinking is the taller the proposal, the better it needs to be, I’d love for something not boxy to be built there, something along the lines of this:

    Does anyone have any clue what this Asian script is saying? it really reminds me of some edifice that comes to life in a SimCity game when you have tachno-Asian architectural style set for your virtual city.

    #781433
    Pug
    Participant

    @Cathal Dunne wrote:

    Does anyone have any clue what this Asian script is saying?.

    Calls for a caption competition

    Its CIE’s latest marketing given that Cork is now twinned with Shanghai

    It says

    WELCOME TO KENT STATION – IRISH RAIL, WE’RE GETTING THERE ….EVENTUALLY

    #781434
    malec
    Participant

    It’s just some random proposal from the internet that I like. I’m not saying such a tower built in Cork needs to look outlandish but something other than a generic box would be nice.
    I’d like to see something like the riverpoint in Limerick pop up.

    #781435
    Spinal Tap
    Participant

    @Pug wrote:

    Calls for a caption competition

    Its CIE’s latest marketing given that Cork is now twinned with Shanghai

    It says

    WELCOME TO KENT STATION – IRISH RAIL, WE’RE GETTING THERE ….EVENTUALLY

    IRISH RAIL – SOMEDAY WE WILL BE A GOOD AS WE WERE IN 1875.

    #781436
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    @Spinal Tap wrote:

    IRISH RAIL – SOMEDAY WE WILL BE A GOOD AS WE WERE IN 1875.

    That is exactly the point!! The Irish were not running the Rail in 1875 – nor the City Council for that matter!!!

    #781437
    -Donnacha-
    Participant

    Yes, ‘they’ were;

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Southern_and_Western_Railway

    Irish company, with backers from all over the then UK.

    Now, if you mean the network wasn’t being run by the unio … I mean a state owned company, thats an entirely different matter.

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