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  • #781398
    jdivision
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    @browser wrote:

    Regarding Castlemartyr, I was talking to a contractor on the job who told me it will be out of this world – they are going all out apparently, effectively building a 5+ Star resort. No idea of name but understand work is well under way – Early 2008 completion I’d guess.

    Isn’t Fleming developing that?

    #781399
    A-ha
    Participant

    I’m impressed. That website really does make the Capella Castlemartyr sound like pure luxury, shame that there’s no pictures though. I read something recently about the secod phase of Mahon Point being built soon. What is it to include…. more shops?

    #781400
    rebel_city
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    Hey,

    I know that the answer to my question is all over this thread, but I’ve been searching for the past while and I can’t seem to find it! Probably due to staring at a computer screen all day! I am wondering what is the total sq footage being created by the Academy street development and the Cornmarket street development? Any news on prospective tenants? Habitat has been thrown around before. Also any update on the Grand Parade hotel site? I was in Cork during “The Christmas” but never got a chance to check that one out!

    It was great being home last week, town was buzzing and looked great. Rory Gallagher place / around by The Raven etc all really lively! The OPC street lights grew on me after a few days. Will they be a permanent fixture? I appreciate Cork alot more now that I’m living in Dublin for 2 years!!:) Easier to get around to shops, good buzz and slightly cheaper! 🙂

    #781401
    kite
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    @phatman wrote:

    Todays examiner has a piece about updated plans to develop the Neville building on Lapp’s Quay, right next to O’Flynn’s no. 5/6 development, to incorporate the existing sandstone warehouse. From what I can gather it will be office-orientated, and could involve anything up to 5 or 6 stories.

    That proposal sounds like a Connelly Hall Mk 2, that ugly smoked glass building that most people are condemning since it was built. Will we ever learn?

    #781402
    A-ha
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    @rebel_city wrote:

    I know that the answer to my question is all over this thread, but I’ve been searching for the past while and I can’t seem to find it! Probably due to staring at a computer screen all day! I am wondering what is the total sq footage being created by the Academy street development and the Cornmarket street development? Any news on prospective tenants? Habitat has been thrown around before.

    I can only remember a few that were rumoured. Habitat, H&M, TK Maxx and if I recall, either John Lewis or House of Fraser. I can see H&M coming to Cork sometime but I wouldn’t put my money on it being Cornmarket Street. As for House of Fraser and John Lewis…. very doubtful.

    #781403
    -Donnacha-
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    Kite, do you have any more information beyond what was in the planning app? (7 stories, retain frontage etc). Or is this your natural pessimism showing through? 😉

    Coughlan DeKeyser are the architects, but there doesn’t seem to be any images of this development on their website.

    #781404
    jdivision
    Participant

    @A-ha wrote:

    I can only remember a few that were rumoured. Habitat, H&M, TK Maxx and if I recall, either John Lewis or House of Fraser. I can see H&M coming to Cork sometime but I wouldn’t put my money on it being Cornmarket Street. As for House of Fraser and John Lewis…. very doubtful.

    I’ve heard a few rumours, will post them on Monday (can’t before then unfortunately). Nothing concrete but good leads

    #781405
    Pug
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    @rebel_city wrote:

    I am wondering what is the total sq footage being created by the Academy street development and the Cornmarket street development? 🙂

    academy st about 11,000 sqm and cornmarket st about 15,000 i think

    #781406
    kite
    Participant
    Aidan wrote:
    Kite, do you have any more information beyond what was in the planning app? (7 stories, retain frontage etc). Or is this your natural pessimism showing through? ]

    :rolleyes: Just my natural pessimism im afraid.
    Listing a building to only include it’s knobs and knockers just does not make any sense to me.
    😮 That “BUILDING” is listed, lets demolish it and retain the glass in the windows!!!!

    Example:
    Irish Examiner 1998 (T. Barker)
    CORK CITY is due for a windfall with a record

    #781407
    Pug
    Participant

    @kite wrote:

    :Evening Echo 2007.
    OCP is to evoke a condition of planning to get out of providing an event centre in Cork??…….

    ………YES I am pessimistic, with the Cork Mafia in full flight who wouldn’t be?

    Dont think its teh best spot for it anyway – Mr J Gavin is determined to have an event centre at horgans quay,a 5,000 seater which would be fine if the station had been moved around when promised (wont happen for at leat 3 years in my opinion) and it would make sense that people could come off the train/bus and go there

    Will say it again but Pairc Ui Chaoimh needs to be razed to the ground and a 50,000 seater stadium for matches across all sports and concerts, add in the conference center and it would be superb

    #781408
    mickeydocs
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    Will say it again but Pairc Ui Chaoimh needs to be razed to the ground and a 50,000 seater stadium for matches across all sports and concerts, add in the conference center and it would be superb[/QUOTE]

    Amen… totally agreed with all of this!

    #781409
    Spinal Tap
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    @Pug wrote:

    Dont think its teh best spot for it anyway – Mr J Gavin is determined to have an event centre at horgans quay,a 5,000 seater which would be fine if the station had been moved around when promised (wont happen for at leat 3 years in my opinion) and it would make sense that people could come off the train/bus and go there

    Will say it again but Pairc Ui Chaoimh needs to be razed to the ground and a 50,000 seater stadium for matches across all sports and concerts, add in the conference center and it would be superb

    Its a no-brainer really is’nt it as Cork loses out to Killarney of all places for Concerts with the NEC holding 4,500 punters.The Pairc should have hotels,bars & a conference centre & a light rail from the city centre / Kent Station. A 4milloin waste of money revamp at Kent Station is a joke.The city is there for the taking on this development but we are destined to lose out yet again as with the airport debt issue & School of Music /Kinsale Road,Sarsfield Road & Bandon road roundabout delays but its an election year and any hir brained scheme may be promised.
    Limerick is meant to be getting an 8,000 seated indoor arena & a redeveloped Thomond park.
    Dundalk is also planning an indoor 16,000 arena & City west & the Point depot are racing each other to get their 16,000 & 15,000 events centres off the ground (the point is on site currently).
    I am amazed at the amount of money Corks business leaders lose out to other cities & towns in hotel.pub & shopping revenue EVERY year as the city has very few attractions apart from being a great place to live and work there is no real draw for tourism in the City.

    #781410
    who_me
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    @Pug wrote:

    Will say it again but Pairc Ui Chaoimh needs to be razed to the ground and a 50,000 seater stadium for matches across all sports and concerts, add in the conference center and it would be superb

    So, so unlikely. But how good would that be. A Munster/Cork/Cork City game in the stadium, then make your slow way back into town along the river, stopping at every bar on the Kennedy’s Quay boardwalk on the way. :p

    #781411
    phatman
    Participant

    Maybe not so unlikely. Did any of ye not hear of a rumoured €100 million development plan? It made its way to the front page of the echo, which I admit is hardly the most reliable or accurate of sources. Haven’t heard anything in a while though…

    #781412
    who_me
    Participant

    @phatman wrote:

    Maybe not so unlikely. Did any of ye not hear of a rumoured €100 million development plan? It made its way to the front page of the echo, which I admit is hardly the most reliable or accurate of sources. Haven’t heard anything in a while though…

    I’ve heard a 50K all seater might be planned/hoped for alright, but I can’t imagine it’ll happen any time soon. And if it does, I can’t imagine it being anything other than GAA sports only.

    Which is a real pity, we just don’t have the population here for each sporting organisation to go its own way, how great it would be to have one large, modern stadium (like the municipal stadia in France).

    There were myriad rumours and gossip a while back about the GAA wanting to build a hotel onto the new ground too, with land being needed from the showgrounds, and the controversy that entailed.

    #781413
    A-ha
    Participant

    @jdivision wrote:

    I’ve heard a few rumours, will post them on Monday (can’t before then unfortunately). Nothing concrete but good leads

    Talk about being a tease. I can’t wait until Monday. It can’t be long now until they name a few definate names, especailly if the centre is opening this year.

    #781414
    phatman
    Participant

    @rebel_city wrote:

    Hey,

    I know that the answer to my question is all over this thread, but I’ve been searching for the past while and I can’t seem to find it! Probably due to staring at a computer screen all day! I am wondering what is the total sq footage being created by the Academy street development and the Cornmarket street development? Any news on prospective tenants? Habitat has been thrown around before. Also any update on the Grand Parade hotel site? I was in Cork during “The Christmas” but never got a chance to check that one out!

    It was great being home last week, town was buzzing and looked great. Rory Gallagher place / around by The Raven etc all really lively! The OPC street lights grew on me after a few days. Will they be a permanent fixture? I appreciate Cork alot more now that I’m living in Dublin for 2 years!!:) Easier to get around to shops, good buzz and slightly cheaper! 🙂

    Check out this brochure, has quite a bit of info on the Cornmarket Centre development:
    http://www.joneslanglasalle.ie/NR/rdonlyres/7C842978-3BCB-4DAE-87E6-BB9CC271E16E/21274/TheCornmarketCentre.pdf

    #781415
    jdivision
    Participant

    @A-ha wrote:

    Talk about being a tease. I can’t wait until Monday. It can’t be long now until they name a few definate names, especailly if the centre is opening this year.

    🙂 Gap, Next, H&M, Zara and several Arcadia brands are in talks for Academy Street. They’re planning on trying to get Habitat for the Half Moon site

    #781416
    Spinal Tap
    Participant

    @jdivision wrote:

    🙂 Gap, Next, H&M, Zara and several Arcadia brands are in talks for Academy Street. They’re planning on trying to get Habitat for the Half Moon site

    What Half Moon site ?

    Is that the demolished site opposite the rear of the Opera House ?

    #781417
    jdivision
    Participant

    @Spinal Tap wrote:

    What Half Moon site ?

    Is that the demolished site opposite the rear of the Opera House ?

    I believe so
    http://www.thepost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=COMMERCIAL-qqqs=property-qqqid=20000-qqqx=1.asp

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