Developments in Cork
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From today’s Irish Examiner:
Mad money? Cork City Council is to spend 500 million on a range of projects on the city’s northside. It kicks off with a 24million euro purchase of 96 apartments in the former Our Lady’s Hospital on the Lee Road.
It paid on average 250,000 euro per unit, and intends to relocate older people to the facility, in the so called ‘grey building’ without a public bus service or shop nearby.
The site has proven a boon for developers Lance, who have been involved in slow sales in the Atkins Hall scheme for several years.
They bought the hospital a decade ago for just 960,000 euro and will end up with hundreds of new and refurbished apartments here.I’d love to see what the Water St. development will look like, particularly from the city side; and how much impact the tower will have.
@mickeydocs wrote:
I’ve been in Cork for the past few days visiting family and I must say I’ve been very impressed by the way the city is starting to take shape… lots of dynamism and vitality, not to mention a massive improvement in the level of litter in the city.
Looks like 2007 will be a very busy year with Water Street, Academy Street, Clontarf Street, Eglinton Rd, Cornmarket Street, Blackpool (Suzies Field/WaterCourse Road) and many other very large construction projects in full swing. And of course, great to see some movement in the Docklands.
Best of luck to all, and lets hope Lexington makes a return to keep us all informed.
Interesting article on Horgan’s Quay… council may not be happy with the approach (probably very old news but what the hell)…
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2006/12/16/story20930.aspHear hear! And I’d like to add – the pedestrianisation of Oliver Plunkett St. by day has to be one of the best moves in many a year; there’s a great buzz along the city now, taking some of the pressure off Patrick St.
Another way of saying that would be the closer to the truth, “city centre is dead”. Nobody is going to the city centre any more, at least not in the same numbers as five or ten years ago. The scene before christmas made this more obvious. No traffic problems different to any normal shopping day. Oliver plunkett st as it stands is killing business. Shops can only accept deliveries before 11am. Loading bays in abundance along the street remain empty after that. The deliveries who arrive after 11am are forced to park on Patrick st, near Princes st, and usually encroach on the Taxi rank there.
No traffic problems different to any normal shopping day
Personally, I’d call that good planning!
Just out of curiousity, has there been any discussion or images of the planning application for Horgans Quay? I may have missed it, but it seems unusual that there has been no real coverage here. Particularly when the developer is proposing such a large development (276 Apts alone and up to 24 stories) in such a sensitive location.
@goldiefish wrote:
Another way of saying that would be the closer to the truth, “city centre is dead”. Nobody is going to the city centre any more, at least not in the same numbers as five or ten years ago. The scene before christmas made this more obvious. No traffic problems different to any normal shopping day. Oliver plunkett st as it stands is killing business. Shops can only accept deliveries before 11am. Loading bays in abundance along the street remain empty after that. The deliveries who arrive after 11am are forced to park on Patrick st, near Princes st, and usually encroach on the Taxi rank there.
Couldn’t disagree with you more. I (as someone who lives in the city centre, and has done for most of the last 10 years) think there’s a buzz about the city that’s been absent for as long as I can remember, and I’m not just talking about the recent Christmas rush.
Add in the new shopping developments (Academy St. and Cornmarket St being the most immediate); and the hundreds of new apartments in the pipeline for the city centre (again, notably the two developments above, and Eglington St.) means there will be a lot of extra shopping options, and a lot of extra shoppers for whom traffic/parking isn’t an issue in town.
@goldiefish wrote:
Another way of saying that would be the closer to the truth, “city centre is dead”. Nobody is going to the city centre any more, at least not in the same numbers as five or ten years ago. The scene before christmas made this more obvious. No traffic problems different to any normal shopping day. Oliver plunkett st as it stands is killing business. Shops can only accept deliveries before 11am. Loading bays in abundance along the street remain empty after that. The deliveries who arrive after 11am are forced to park on Patrick st, near Princes st, and usually encroach on the Taxi rank there.
I have know pople who have businesses on OP Street and have bemoaned the fact that Maylor Street was pedestrianised very succesfully and cheaply and are delighted with footfall and business on OP Street since the upgrade.As for deliveries after 11am welcome to organisation that occurs every day in every major European city that has pedestrianisation as part of a sucessful business and shopping core.
Just think back 2 years ago at OP Street – broken uneven pavements 3 feet wide with cars choking the narrow street.Cork City centre is probably the only area outside the capital where there is a significant footfall and athmosphere on a daily basis.Cork certainly needs a lot more quality large retail space 20,000 sq.ft plus which can take the likes of Habitat etc and some of the existing retailers could liven up their shopfronts and paint the upper levels etc.New Cork Airport Hotel being constructed by McNamara. Architects are Ashlin Coleman:
Also, updated sketches of the Blackrock Village/Harbour renewal plan, from O’Mahony Pike website. Thinking back the original proposal was absolutely horrendous…
Seems to tie in well with the Eden Village Park proposal.
@mickeydocs wrote:
Is Eden Village in construction?
As far as I know it has been for 6 months, maybe more.
@phatman wrote:
As far as I know it has been for 6 months, maybe more.
A lot of units look like they’re nearing completion
@mickeydocs wrote:
Is Eden Village in construction?
Firestone Developments are under construction with Eden, but as discussed on the thread in the recent past these guys are one of many development company’s that keep going back time and time again for “ALTERATIONS†to approved planning applications…
New application under TP06/31376…alterations and additions to existing approved scheme (TP 03/27645) as follows: Omission of 57 no. dwelling units comprising: 11 No. C Type (3 strorey duplex building consisting of 1 No. 3 bed unit & 1 No. 2 bed unit), 1 No. F Type (3 storey duplex building consisting of 1 No. 3 bed unit & 2 No. 2 bed units), 16 No. P Type (2/3 storey duplex building consisting of 1 No. 3 bed unit & 1 No. 2 bed unit). Addition of 118 No. dwelling units in 4 No. apartment blocks ranging from 4 to 5 stories, comprising 19 No. 1 bed units & 99 No. 2 bed units, all over basement carpark providing 112 No. carspaces with 42 No. surface parking spaces provided, with modifications to site layout & road carriageways to include parking spaces, bicylce parking, refuse storage & associated external site works. The proposal onstitutes the provision of a net additional 61 dwelling units over and above that previously granted on the 12.33 hectare site (30.47 acres) at the lands known as the Ursuline Convent of which the convent and chapel are protected structures. The site is bounded by the Blackrock Road (to the north), Convent Road, a convent & burial ground, Ballinsheen Court Housing and park to east, Open fields to the south and Scoil Ursula Primary School, Ursuline Secondary school and a disused railway line to the west.
:rolleyes: No wonder planning is a dirty word in Ireland.
This is a tactic used regularly by developers in Dublin, I expect the involvement of Pierce may be the reason the alterations are being used
@jdivision wrote:
This is a tactic used regularly by developers in Dublin, I expect the involvement of Pierce may be the reason the alterations are being used
Like I mentioned in a past post, if the planning laws allowed for a charge of say 250,000 euro for each “alteration†it would concentrate the minds of developers to get it right first time out.:cool:
@phatman wrote:
Also, updated sketches of the Blackrock Village/Harbour renewal plan, from O’Mahony Pike website. Thinking back the original proposal was absolutely horrendous…
Seems to tie in well with the Eden Village Park proposal.
Looks good, however the “harbour” is a bit ambitious, unless they want to do a LOT of dredging. Also the Marinas are a no no as they are too close to the channell and the swinging arc for the container/Ro-Ro terminal
I passed through Castlemartyr over Christmas and saw a sign for that new resort. Luxury Hotel, 18 hole golf course and private lodges…. but it doesn’t say when it will open. No doubt it will do wonders for the area, but you hear very little about it. When’s it due to open and what’s it called? As for the railway station, I’ll believe it when I see it. It seems though that they forgot the Event Centre, well not necessarily forgot, but put into Phase 2 of the plans to be completed circa 2017.
Regarding Castlemartyr, I was talking to a contractor on the job who told me it will be out of this world – they are going all out apparently, effectively building a 5+ Star resort. No idea of name but understand work is well under way – Early 2008 completion I’d guess.
Ask and ye shall receive;
http://capellacastlemartyr.com/
“Opening in the spring of 2007, the luxurious Capella Castlemartyr is the restoration of a 12th century Manor House to its original splendor. Born of Capella Hotels and Resorts dedication to the refurbishment of this grand Manor, the hotel will gratify the experienced and astute guest who desires luxurious amenities, unparalleled attention to detail, and the Capella commitment to “individualized service” experiences. The resort’s classical grandeur is reflected in its remarkable architecture, most impressively expressed in the Manor’s bar with its fully restored ornate rococo ceiling and fireplace. The lavish facilities, all sensitively restored with guest comfort and pleasure in mind, will provide accommodation experiences that exceed even the most discerning expectations. Created with the needs of the luxury traveler in mind, Capella Castlemartyr is the ideal haven for privacy, respite, and relaxation within magnificent, yet unostentatious, surroundings.”
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