Developments in Cork
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- December 18, 2006 at 7:54 pm #781338
kite
Participant@Praxiteles wrote:
I wonder what we are looking into that taking such a long time, can we not just drive past, or are we just blind or otherwise impaired?
Ad re. nothing happening here is a term that might be mentioned: NON-FEASANCE
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/n066.htm
and this explains how to move forward:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MalfeasanceIts all down to the “great one†that cannot be criticized under any circumstances, the “mighty one†that was on the 11- 12, and one o clock news today telling us that his executive functions are his business and nobody else’s, this view backed by our Labour Lord Mayor who said “its out of councilors handsâ€.
The same mighty one is as I post about to get to his feet to tell us, (some viewers better shut their eyes now) that he got it all wrong and is backtracking on what was written in stone a few short hours ago.
Amazing what can be done when Councillors put their mind to things??December 18, 2006 at 8:10 pm #781339THE_Chris
ParticipantLast time I looked at the library extension in UCC was last year. Was wondering what they’d do with it and how it would look.
I never could have thought it would look so bad.
The first picture makes it look like military offices.
The second picture makes it look like the door between the old bit and the new bit has a gap that you have to jump.December 18, 2006 at 8:25 pm #781340Praxiteles
Participant@kite wrote:
Its all down to the “great one†that cannot be criticized under any circumstances, the “mighty one†that was on the 11- 12, and one o clock news today telling us that his executive functions are his business and nobody else’s, this view backed by our Labour Lord Mayor who said “its out of councilors handsâ€.
Amazing what can be done when Councillors put their mind to things??
It must be the time of year but Handel’s Messiah comes to mind and those wonderful lyrics from Isaiah 9:7:
multiplicabitur eius imperiumDecember 18, 2006 at 9:13 pm #781341Keen
Participant@malec wrote:
Looks OK but I also prefer the original. True, it hasn’t suffered too much.
Progress on the elysian:

WOW! The Elysian is fast and the picture of the Cork cityscape is so mystical…
December 18, 2006 at 11:45 pm #781342Cathal Dunne
Participant@Keen wrote:
WOW! The Elysian is fast and the picture of the Cork cityscape is so mystical…
I know!!! The cranes are like silent sentinels, surveying all below, and adding their own voice to the city by constructing new buildings. Imagine what the Elysian will look like when it has external glazing, the glitter off it from the evening sun should look dazzling.
A big roll of cling film could go from the top of the stairwell core to the street level, by the way!
December 19, 2006 at 12:08 am #781343samuel j
Participant@Praxiteles wrote:
It must be the time of year but Handel’s Messiah comes to mind and those wonderful lyrics from Isaiah 9:7:
multiplicabitur eius imperiumAh now Prax…. don’t think you should be mentioning Herr Haendel….sorry Mr. Handel….you’ll have us all in the sin bin again.
December 19, 2006 at 12:34 am #781344kite
Participant@samuel j wrote:
Ah now Prax…. don’t think you should be mentioning Herr Haendel….sorry Mr. Handel….you’ll have us all in the sin bin again.
:rolleyes: Im going to follow the “mighty one” (whose name cannot be mentioned by us mere mortals) around the city from now on. At one o clock today he had to charge pensioners for bin collection, 5 hours later he FOUND over a million euro to allow him backtrack!!
Following him around Cork could make for a great Christmas??:pDecember 19, 2006 at 12:26 pm #781345orion
Participant@kite wrote:
That anti high rise development (CSD) Muppet Councillor Jerry “I want to be a TD at any cost†Buttimer 😮 may have jumped the gun of his betters (i.e. the CSD Group) in objecting to the development of the former Esso Garage site in Bishopstown.
This development would consist of, demolition of all existing structures on site,(petrol pumps) construction of a new access onto Bishopstown Road, construction of car park access ramp, construction of a five storey mixed use building ( 11,052m2 gross floor area) over 3 basement levels of car parking (289 spaces), comprising, – 7 units of retail with optional additional use of restaurants, financial services and professional services, Medical and health services use in 7 units, and drop-in childcare facility at level 1, medical and health services use in subdividable units at level 2,3 and 4.
:rolleyes: Hopefully this dude will have a helicopter ready to transport his sorry ass to a medical facility if needed that he objects to in Wilton due to the traffic causing delays to him and his “nothing but a bungalow allowed sweetheart†Mary “full time bull’st*er†Shields of FF on their way to play bowels 7 days a week.
😮 We really do get what we deserve on the fools we vote for!!
Decision due date 9/1/07How can Jerry Buttimer object to every development when he called for and got a new area action plan for Wilton/Bishopstown which premits height and density? Is this guy on his own personnel agenda and how would HQ Fine Geal feel about objecting to Medical Clinics for the greater community when our health system is under so mush pressure. The only hope is for Jerry to be elected to the Dail where he will have to confrom to party policy ,so I have decided for the good of Cork City to Vote Jerry and put him on the next train to Dublin!
😀December 19, 2006 at 1:31 pm #781346lisam
ParticipantOCP’s Patrick St Development got planning. dont know what conditions were imposed yet
December 20, 2006 at 2:28 pm #781347Pug
Participantwerdna / water st pushed out to the 20th – its just silly now – why push it out to the same day date?
December 20, 2006 at 11:02 pm #781348kite
Participantkite wrote:😡 A bridge too far for Lidl?
Councillors are due to vote again on the material contravention of the City Development Plan 2004-09 to allow Lidl open a store in Churchfield.
Following on a huge campaign in the past 2 weeks by residents, Councillors and TD’]:rolleyes: Surprise surprise, Lidl have been granted permission to develop a supermarket in Churchfield following the rezoning of land on the instructions (demands) of city manager, Joe Gavin.
Don’t get me wrong, I am absolutely delighted Mr. Gavin went against a Cork Mafia food giant in pushing for Lidl. 😉 I just hope when he needs sponsorship to redevelop a Queen Anne House in Cork in the future Lidl will step up to the mark with buckets of cash??( One of CCC’s Conditions of planning)
“The off-licence element of the proposed development shall be omitted and notwithstanding the exempted development provisions within the Planning & Development Regulations, 2001, as amended by the Planning & Development Regulations 2005, no part of the proposed retail unit shall be used as an off-licence”.December 21, 2006 at 1:24 am #781349THE_Chris
ParticipantNot having an offlicence is just daft. Whats the reason for that?
December 21, 2006 at 2:00 pm #781350Pug
Participant@THE_Chris wrote:
Not having an offlicence is just daft. Whats the reason for that?
Prob saying something about an anti social element gathering or something. Do people gather around off licences? Anyway, LIDL can appeal it if they want to. That would be funny.
What about Water St – anyone hear if they have managed to make up their minds?
December 21, 2006 at 3:50 pm #781351kite
Participant@THE_Chris wrote:
Not having an offlicence is just daft. Whats the reason for that?
Some Councillors needed to justify jumping from being totally opposed to Lidl one week to welcoming the development on the night of the vote. All are aware that Lidl will go straight to ABP and would be 99% sure of overturning CCC’s condition.
December 21, 2006 at 4:55 pm #781352Cathal Dunne
Participant@THE_Chris wrote:
Not having an offlicence is just daft. Whats the reason for that?
Lidl have off-licences? But their shops are tiny, how will they be able to fit in an off-licence into them? And if they can’t have that, can they still sell drink as that is off licence by another way? It puzzles me…:confused:
December 21, 2006 at 5:45 pm #781353Praxiteles
Participant@kite wrote:
Some Councillors needed to justify jumping from being totally opposed to Lidl one week to welcoming the development on the night of the vote. All are aware that Lidl will go straight to ABP and would be 99% sure of overturning CCC’s condition.
Thya must all have been under the influence ……. of Fr. Matthew!!
December 21, 2006 at 6:34 pm #781354jdivision
Participant@Cathal Dunne wrote:
Lidl have off-licences? But their shops are tiny, how will they be able to fit in an off-licence into them? And if they can’t have that, can they still sell drink as that is off licence by another way? It puzzles me…:confused:
Both Aldi and Lidl sell drink, most of which is actually okay and very cheap. It’s like going into a large Centra or a Super Valu, most of them have off-licences within the shops too.
December 21, 2006 at 8:07 pm #781355carrigdhoun
ParticipantWater street was decided today. Details will not be available before Dec, 25th.
December 21, 2006 at 8:46 pm #781356Praxiteles
Participant@jdivision wrote:
Both Aldi and Lidl sell drink, most of which is actually okay and very cheap. It’s like going into a large Centra or a Super Valu, most of them have off-licences within the shops too.
Lidl’s Irish whiskey is excellent and distilled in Dundalk!
December 22, 2006 at 12:16 pm #781357Pug
Participant@carrigdhoun wrote:
Water street was decided today. Details will not be available before Dec, 25th.
you’d wonder why details arent available until christmas day, why even do that? does that mnean its granted or not? what does it matter to try and keep details secret over a holiday ? why even state that on their planning? thats a disgrace
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