Developments in Cork
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- October 20, 2006 at 5:40 pm #781098
Angry Rebel
ParticipantThey were pumping concrete yesterday afternoon and evening, but I suspect that was crane related foundation rather than building related?
October 20, 2006 at 9:33 pm #781099goldiefish
ParticipantIts happened again….
This evening In Carrigtwohill, a small village just 10 miles outside the city, A local landmark, which had stood on the main st for well over 100 years was “knocked”, In spite of the frontage being Subject to a preservation order.
Barry Bros of main st, formerly centra, suffered some inexplicable structural difficulty while it was being “renovated” which meant the entire building was knocked unceremoniusly this evening, and quite unprofessionaly too, in my opinion. I understand the roof collapsed last night after those involved in renovations removed a supporting pillar from the lower floor.
The Building, which is the end building on the Main st formes the corner at the Entrance to St Als convent. It was knocked using a Loadalls bucket. No bracing is in place to support the adjoining Shop, Forrests.Locals are wondering when the bulldozer will arrive to do similar to Barryscourt Castle.
Its nothing other than Pure vandalism.
October 21, 2006 at 6:33 pm #781100kite
Participant😎 CCC committee members approved a report from the Director of Services to develop the Military Cemetery at Assumption Road, Blackpool into a local park.
Works will include provision of boundary walls and paths, trees and shrub planting, playground etc., and will be done with sensitivity to the fact that the site is a graveyard, with no interred remains being disturbed and relevant advise being sought to ensure that works would be carried out in a way that recognises and builds on the heritage of the old graveyard.🙂 Councillors are also to vote on a motion to remove the skate park from Tory Top Road which has destroyed the resident’s enjoyment of the original park and become slum like after only 3 months.
😡 The City manager now intends to repeat this mistake by turning part of Fitzgerald’s Park into a state park.
October 21, 2006 at 6:38 pm #781101Anonymous
InactiveSo the skaters will be back to Emmett Place IMHO
What ever happened in relation to the M & S proposal for the former Roches that hit the news: was it resolved?
October 21, 2006 at 6:45 pm #781102Praxiteles
ParticipantRe posting 400:
Does the Imperial War Graves Commission have an involvment here and, if so, have they been consulted?
October 21, 2006 at 6:56 pm #781103kite
ParticipantThomond Park wrote:So the skaters will be back to Emmett Place IMHOWhen private skate parks were in place in the city they had to close due to insurance problems.
CCC putting a few ramps in existing parks and then walking away and washing their hands of any reasonability to ensure proper running and supervision of same is just not good enough.Praxiteles, sorry but I don’t know if the Imperial War Graves Commission have been consulted.
October 21, 2006 at 6:59 pm #781104Praxiteles
Participantkite wrote:Thomond Park wrote:Praxiteles, sorry but I don’]Oh, we could be in for some major fun here…given the competence record of Irish local authorities!!
October 21, 2006 at 7:08 pm #781105kite
Participant😉 Cork City Manager is to confirm (or not) if a Marina is to be built near Lough Mahon Point in view of the fact that an agreement on this venture was planned as a condition of the sale of lands in Mahon in the 1990’s
October 21, 2006 at 8:23 pm #781106KenzoTange
Participantkite wrote:Proposed developments that are upsetting our poor councilors include]Surely Lovett’s is a listed building? Was that not the original Ballinlough house??
I have a vested interest in preserving Lovett’s – it is already a difficult cycle from Ballintemple to Douglas – this will make it much worse.
I would also have serious concerns that such piecemeal apartment developments will threaten any serious redevelopment of the docklands.
October 21, 2006 at 11:32 pm #781107malec
Participant@Keen wrote:
wow i was just wondering about the progress here! Have you any update frmo up close? Is the foundation already poured?
I doubt it, a few weeks ago they were still digging the hole so probably a good bit more work to do.
If I’ve time and if the pissing rain stops I might go up onto the city hall carpark again and take a few shotsOctober 23, 2006 at 11:09 am #781108Pug
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
What ever happened in relation to the M & S proposal for the former Roches that hit the news: was it resolved?
It wasnt resolved, 170 workers lost their jobs. Penneys are supposedly taking the space there and unions are trying to get Penneys to take on the workers who lost out.
October 23, 2006 at 2:02 pm #781109Radioactiveman
ParticipantI should have posted this last week, but never got round to it:

O’Callaghan Properties are set to submit further information and revised plans for its much anticipated development at Academy Street/St.Patrick’s Street and Emmett Place.
A number of important/protected/listed buildings are within this development area. These include, the St. Patrick Street frontages, Parts of the Examiner Office, Le Chateau and buildings on Emmett Place.
The original development was designed to provide a mixed use, residential/commercial floor area of 33388 sq m, providing 19 large ‘comparison goods’ retail units and 91 apartments (17 x one bed; 54 x two bed; 15 three bed; 5 duplex). Two gyms were also to be included in the residential part of the development.
Faulkener’s lane was set to be widened and redeveloped as a public space, while Bowling Green Street was set to be largely ignored- used for service access, ESB substations, etc.The new information and revised plans include the following:
(a) reduction in apartment numbers from 91 to 68 (6 x one bed; 53 x two bed; 9 x three bed).
(b) overall height reduced by omitting dispropotionate upper floor areas. Curved feature roof facing onto Emmett Place, Academy Street also to be removed.
(c) Revised elevatiosn to all street frontages.
(d) St. Patrick’s Street frontage now due to include complete demolition of the former Ryan’s Pharmacy (now Cork City FC shop) and the construction of a new elevation to Patrick’s Street.
(e) Former Examiner Office entrance elements of 94-96 St.Patrick’s Street top be retained. (how much of the total facade of these buildings to be retained is unclear at present).
(f) Changes to apartment lobbies/ service entrances on Academy Street, Faulkners lane, Bowling Green St. to ensure maximum retail frontage.
(g) revised retail layout to ensure access from Bowling Green Street
(h) revised frontage at Academy Street to omit changes to no.s 1-6.original design images:
October 23, 2006 at 4:22 pm #781110orion
ParticipantJoe O’Donovan has paid €7.5m for the former Ernst & Young building on Oliver Plk Street, what is this man using for Cash! It would be nice if someone could add up his current exposure to the Cork property market, for his sake lets hope the good times keep comin’ and comin’
October 23, 2006 at 6:13 pm #781111kite
Participant@orion wrote:
Joe O’Donovan has paid €7.5m for the former Ernst & Young building on Oliver Plk Street, what is this man using for Cash! It would be nice if someone could add up his current exposure to the Cork property market, for his sake lets hope the good times keep comin’ and comin’
Joe O’Donovan and his backers must have major plans for Cork City, and good luck to them (although the Roches M&S debacle leaves bad feelings for some)
I hope the sun keeps shining on them as spending millions on some sites that remain idle to this day must take deep pockets and a steady nerve!!:eek:October 23, 2006 at 6:31 pm #781112rebel_city
ParticipantDoes anyone have any pics of the Coal Quay developments or any idea of what kind of shops will be going there? A Habitat would go down well I’d say 🙂
October 23, 2006 at 10:40 pm #781113Anonymous
InactiveI like Habitat its a much better retail experience than IKEA which have in true Sweedish fashion made shopping there a feat of endurance as one is forced to do a long long lap at most stores even if you wish to purchase something in the first retail set.
Kite
Thanks for this update; this must go down as one of the most senseless acts in commercial property in recent years given the draw that M & S present vs a Penneys; why didn’t he just do the deal and lock in the reduced yield with his bankers as a revalued asset? 😮
October 23, 2006 at 11:27 pm #781114kite
ParticipantThomond Park wrote:KiteThanks for this update]
😉 “Some” would say that M&S would have been direct competition for Mr.O’Donovan’s backers, Penneys on the other hand (if they move in) would not, non food products etc.
Lex mentioned when JO’D and Howard Holdings bought the Wilton Centre that plans may be afoot for a 10 storey landmark building, redevelopment of the existing store, plus a multi storey car park between the existing store and the Wilton Church. This would still be the preferred plan so it would seem?October 24, 2006 at 1:31 am #781115Praxiteles
ParticipantRadioactiveman wrote:I should have posted this last week, but never got round to it:

O’Callaghan Properties are set to submit further information and revised plans for its much anticipated development at Academy Street/St.Patrick’s Street and Emmett Place.
A number of important/protected/listed buildings are within this development area. These include, the St. Patrick Street frontages, Parts of the Examiner Office, Le Chateau and buildings on Emmett Place.
The original development was designed to provide a mixed use, residential/commercial floor area of 33388 sq m, providing 19 large ‘comparison goods’ retail units and 91 apartments (17 x one bed]Are there no height limitations to developments in Cork City center? These things are just awful and engulf the whole street and detract totally from both Patrick’s Street and the lovely little house on Emmeth Place. Can we depend on Cork Corporation to turn this monstrosity down?
October 24, 2006 at 1:55 am #781116A-ha
Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
(b) overall height reduced by omitting dispropotionate upper floor areas. Curved feature roof facing onto Emmett Place, Academy Street also to be removed
That’s a pity. I quite liked the curved roof. Now the thing is just gonna look like some warehouse. Not very attractive. As for Habitat, that rumour has been flying around for ages. I think there is one in Galway, so maybe their next move might be Cork. When is the Coal Quay due to be completed?
October 24, 2006 at 9:43 am #781117Spinal Tap
Participant@A-ha wrote:
That’s a pity. I quite liked the curved roof. Now the thing is just gonna look like some warehouse. Not very attractive. As for Habitat, that rumour has been flying around for ages. I think there is one in Galway, so maybe their next move might be Cork. When is the Coal Quay due to be completed?
I heard a that Habitat were meant to be taking the old stone church building in the Coalquay development.
I think that they require at least 20,000sq.ft. About time that they were in the second city but we will have to wait and see.Is it just me but is the Coalquay taking forever to get built ? - AuthorPosts
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