Developments in Cork
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- July 13, 2006 at 3:57 pm #780738
jdivision
ParticipantFrinailla’s Victoria Cross scheme has been approved subject to conditions. Haven’t had a chance to look at them yet. Code is 216418 of anybody wants to check pleanala.ie
July 13, 2006 at 4:51 pm #780739jungle
Participant@shrink2cork wrote:
Why will Maryborough Hill be closed to two way traffic for nine months to one year? Wait till the schools go back, then the fun will start…….
Can any one help?:confused:
It’s going to be closed til 2007 because they are widenin the road there.
July 13, 2006 at 6:08 pm #780740kite
Participant@jdivision wrote:
Frinailla’s Victoria Cross scheme has been approved subject to conditions. Haven’t had a chance to look at them yet. Code is 216418 of anybody wants to check pleanala.ie
The IE had a story on this on Monday, ABP overturned their own inspector yet again to grant planning, anyone else feel that the frequency of appeals being overturned is alarming?
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2006/07/11/story7985.aspJuly 13, 2006 at 7:18 pm #780741phatman
Participant@kite wrote:
The IE had a story on this on Monday, ABP overturned their own inspector yet again to grant planning, anyone else feel that the frequency of appeals being overturned is alarming?
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2006/07/11/story7985.aspI think they have a point, though I am glad of some of the approvals.
July 13, 2006 at 8:20 pm #780742A-ha
Participant@shrink2cork wrote:
Why will Maryborough Hill be closed to two way traffic for nine months to one year? Wait till the schools go back, then the fun will start…….
Can any one help?:confused:
And well done to A-ha this is the best Thread, please keep it going:cool:
Thanks for that shrink 😉 . Maryborough Hill will be closed until March 2007 (I think) as they are putting in cycling lanes, bus lanes and in general just widening the road.
July 14, 2006 at 10:41 am #780743Anonymous
InactiveWhere is Lexington?
July 14, 2006 at 12:25 pm #780744Spinal Tap
ParticipantHoliday I hope – no sign of him here lately since the thread was split up ?
July 14, 2006 at 12:54 pm #780745jdivision
Participant@Spinal Tap wrote:
Holiday I hope – no sign of him here lately since the thread was split up ?
He was around earlier in the week. By the way is anybody else having private message trouble? I got two email notifications that I had pms in my account but when I logged on there was no sign of them. I needed them for something I was doing workwise
July 15, 2006 at 1:44 pm #780746Anonymous
Inactivesurely dunnes aren’t going to take 140000sq ft on pana, when you put it in perspective with tescos in wilton which was, not sure if it still is the biggest supermarket in the country at 32000sq ft?
July 15, 2006 at 9:08 pm #780747A-ha
Participant@daniel_7 wrote:
surely dunnes aren’t going to take 140000sq ft on pana, when you put it in perspective with tescos in wilton which was, not sure if it still is the biggest supermarket in the country at 32000sq ft?
Maybe they are going to use some for offices. I can’t see Dunnes operating 140000 sq ft…. especially when there is one across the road in Merchants Quay. Perhaps they might close that when they open the new one. The one in MQ would make a great H&M.
July 15, 2006 at 10:53 pm #780748PTB
ParticipantI agree. I only realised that that Dunnes was there two or three years ago. I always seemed to float past it and not really notice it. The first time I saw it i looked in and it wasn’t very busy but on my way back to the bus stop I looked into the Merchants Quay one and twas packed. I dont it does much buisness.
July 15, 2006 at 11:03 pm #780749malec
ParticipantSchool of music from very far away.
July 17, 2006 at 10:50 am #780750Radioactiveman
ParticipantThe fact Dunnes have two outlets in close proximity in Cork City is perfectly standard and is common around the world. The two outlets serve (at the moment) wildly different purposes. The redevelopment of its Patrick Street store and surrounding space will see the company push its image into the realms of Roches and Debenhams- with whom it really wants to compete, not its historical competitor Quinnsworth/Tesco.

So, as one Cork retail giant makes even more progress, another looks set to disappear from the retail scene, and our major cities for good. Media reports this morning suggest that Debenhams are almost certain to acquire the lease of all of Roches Stores properties. This includes prime department stores in Waterford, Cork and Limerick amongst others.
Roches move out of retail has been on the cards for many years, with the stores now merely a collection of individual third party retailers such as Topman, Pull and Bear, etc. ‘Roches’ has for a good many years been just a name over the door.

Its unfortunate that another Irish Retail giant is to dissapear and it is also unfortunate that Patrick Street will become further cleansed of any link to Cork’s retail past. It makes the realisation of Dunnes’ Patrick Street development even more important.July 17, 2006 at 1:28 pm #780751Spinal Tap
Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
The fact Dunnes have two outlets in close proximity in Cork City is perfectly standard and is common around the world. The two outlets serve (at the moment) wildly different purposes. The redevelopment of its Patrick Street store and surrounding space will see the company push its image into the realms of Roches and Debenhams- with whom it really wants to compete, not its historical competitor Quinnsworth/Tesco.

So, as one Cork retail giant makes even more progress, another looks set to disappear from the retail scene, and our major cities for good. Media reports this morning suggest that Debenhams are almost certain to acquire the lease of all of Roches Stores properties. This includes prime department stores in Waterford, Cork and Limerick amongst others.
Roches move out of retail has been on the cards for many years, with the stores now merely a collection of individual third party retailers such as Topman, Pull and Bear, etc. ‘Roches’ has for a good many years been just a name over the door.

Its unfortunate that another Irish Retail giant is to dissapear and it is also unfortunate that Patrick Street will become further cleansed of any link to Cork’s retail past. It makes the realisation of Dunnes’ Patrick Street development even more important.Its a pity to lose the indidgenous Cork retailers from our main streets as Dublin could now be Nottingham or Leeds with its “High” street Uk rertailers.We have very little in Cork city to attract tourists and a unique streetscape with local retailers is always something worth having.Roches move must have been on the cards for a long time as their Wilton store is stuck in 1978 !
Personally I think that there are way too many Dunnes Stores around Cork.Asuperquin or a few more M&S would be a nice change.
July 17, 2006 at 3:31 pm #780752phatman
Participant@Spinal Tap wrote:
Its a pity to lose the indidgenous Cork retailers from our main streets as Dublin could now be Nottingham or Leeds with its “High” street Uk rertailers.We have very little in Cork city to attract tourists and a unique streetscape with local retailers is always something worth having.Roches move must have been on the cards for a long time as their Wilton store is stuck in 1978 !
Personally I think that there are way too many Dunnes Stores around Cork.Asuperquin or a few more M&S would be a nice change.
Not sure about Superquinn, but M&S definitely. I agree, it is a pity Roches are bowing out.
July 17, 2006 at 3:45 pm #780753jdivision
Participant@A-ha wrote:
Maybe they are going to use some for offices. I can’t see Dunnes operating 140000 sq ft…. especially when there is one across the road in Merchants Quay. Perhaps they might close that when they open the new one. The one in MQ would make a great H&M.
Dunnes homewares collection will probably take up a significant amount of the space there, then there’ll be the usual drapery and grocery. Sounds about right to me.
July 17, 2006 at 6:51 pm #780754kite
Participant😮 Following on the vote taken last year to ban residential units over 3 stories, proposed by FF’s Cllr. David McCarthy (passed by two thirds of councilors but never implemented by city manager, Mr. Joe Gavin) another proposal in the same vein is to be voted on tonight, a motion by Cllr. Mary Shields FF is to call for a blanket ban on units over 3 stories in Cork.
“Fianna Fail the developers friendâ€â€¦not in Cork city it would seem?July 17, 2006 at 9:51 pm #780755phatman
Participant@kite wrote:
😮 Following on the vote taken last year to ban residential units over 3 stories, proposed by FF’s Cllr. David McCarthy (passed by two thirds of councilors but never implemented by city manager, Mr. Joe Gavin) another proposal in the same vein is to be voted on tonight, a motion by Cllr. Mary Shields FF is to call for a blanket ban on units over 3 stories in Cork.
“Fianna Fail the developers friendâ€â€¦not in Cork city it would seem?Hahahahah, you can only laugh. This is a joke right? Some people are so ignorant, so conservative, so old-fashioned it amazes me. This is such a generalisation, just like the generalisation of speed limits, in being non case-specific resulting in excrusiatingly and exceedingly slow speeds on wide safe roads!
This is so lame.July 17, 2006 at 11:01 pm #780756kite
Participant@phatman wrote:
Hahahahah, you can only laugh. This is a joke right? Some people are so ignorant, so conservative, so old-fashioned it amazes me. This is such a generalisation, just like the generalisation of speed limits, in being non case-specific resulting in excrusiatingly and exceedingly slow speeds on wide safe roads!
This is so lame.😡 Agreed, but when a councillor that would have been (until now) very much pro-manager starts jumping on the CSD bandwagon you can only wonder how long city management can hold the line?
July 18, 2006 at 2:32 am #780757A-ha
Participant@Spinal Tap wrote:
Personally I think that there are way too many Dunnes Stores around Cork.Asuperquin or a few more M&S would be a nice change.
I agree, the amount of Dunnes around Cork is a joke. I am glad that there is no Dunnes in Wilton, Roches is such a change. M&S were to open in Ballincollig but were outbid by Dunnes for the property, it was a shame because another Marks would do really well in the city. Not sure about Superquinn though, but another Next wouldn’t go a stray in the city centre. The one there at the mo is sh*t. If Debenhams do buy Roches, does that mean that the smaller stores there will close also, i.e. Liz Claiborne, Top Shop/Man, Pull and Bear etc.? And also, would all the Roches stores be re-branded as Debenhams.
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