Developments in Cork
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Pug: love your last sentence; it’s the way they tell them!
Kite: If you just reflect on what you’ve written; I did not say that ALL the houses should be social (and social hsg can be provided as part of a co-operative, not directly by the LA). Is what you’re really saying that you don’t want THEM in the nice shiny new schemes (sorry, ‘estates’)? Of course, it’s only the working class who live in ghettoes, isn’t it?
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Pug: love your last sentence; it’s the way they tell them!
Kite: If you just reflect on what you’ve written; I did not say that ALL the houses should be social (and social hsg can be provided as part of a co-operative, not directly by the LA). Is what you’re really saying that you don’t want THEM in the nice shiny new schemes (sorry, ‘estates’)? Of course, it’s only the working class who live in ghettoes, isn’t it?
Each and every scumbag drug dealer that was evicted by Cork City Council for dealing from LA housing over the past 10 years had the bleeding heart Judges ordering that they be re-housed elsewhere…I don’t want them in my neighbourhood.
The lazy dopes that never worked a day in their useless lives…I don’t want them in my neighbourhood.The 20% of Part V housing that (should) go to those that worked, but have fallen on hard times or are senior citizens…I WANT THEM.
Let me know the area you live in and I will try and ensure that you and your neighbours can have your wish for scumbags living next door to you. Then we will see who the real NIMBY’s are!!:rolleyes:
@kite wrote:
Each and every scumbag drug dealer that was evicted by Cork City Council for dealing from LA housing over the past 10 years had the bleeding heart Judges ordering that they be re-housed elsewhere…I don’t want them in my neighbourhood.
The lazy dopes that never worked a day in their useless lives…I don’t want them in my neighbourhood.The 20% of Part V housing that (should) go to those that worked, but have fallen on hard times or are senior citizens…I WANT THEM.
Let me know the area you live in and I will try and ensure that you and your neighbours can have your wish for scumbags living next door to you. Then we will see who the real NIMBY’s are!!:rolleyes:
You either have a social housing policy, or you don’t. There’s a serious difficulty in housing some people, but they still have to be housed somewhere. You can’t really expect them to live on the streets.
I fully realise there are unsavory characters, but you come across them in every sort of housing. I was living in a very ‘respectable’ area of Dublin and we had the misfortune of having a major drug dealer move in next door.
These weren’t local authority houses, these were very expensive owner-occupier houses and he bought one.
I’ve also experienced neighbours from hell in other areas too, everything from the noisy neighbour to the obcessive complusive who complains about absolutely everything. The best one I had was a neighbour who asked if we could install darker blinds or go to bed at a reasonable hour as he was unable to sleep due to the bright glare from our windows!
The ‘bright glare’ was a standard kitchen light bulb, the blinds were drawn and an unreasonable hour was 11pm.
It’s really hard to know what the solution to a problem neighbour is.
If you start to draw down moral guidelines about who can have a house and who can’t, where does it stop?
Some people don’t like living next to gay people, some people might think that an unmarried couple living together was disgraceful, some people have issues about racism, if you go up north, some people don’t like catholics/protestants.
Where do you draw the line ?
Who decides whose worthy of a house?
I’m not trying to be a ‘bleeding heart’ but, I am just wondering how you would control such a system and how would people have a right do due process?
I agree. In fact I think that there’s a very good social purpose to be served by re-housing people like these in affluent areas. No longer will people be able to turn their backs on deprivation and the crime and inhumanity that it breeds, they’ll have to face it in their own neighbourhood. And that ought, in a democracy, to help change attitudes to inequality of opportunity.
Kite: I really think you have some very serious attitude problems (as the Americans would say) to social housing. Stick the socially disfunctional in ghettoes or leave them on the streets and you really will have a problem. I live in a very up-market area, in a so-called prestige development; that is no safeguard from noisy heighbours, drunks in the street, the odd visit from the polis, not to mention all the petty bourgeois hang-ups (including studiously ignoring all the people you live beside). So-called ‘mixed tenure’ neighbourhoods are the ideal and the current housing ‘crisis’ (i.e. over-supply) in Ireland may offer a part solution. Simples.
MrX and Rumpelstilstkin: You’ve said it better than me.@johnglas wrote:
Kite: I really think you have some very serious attitude problems (as the Americans would say) to social housing. Stick the socially disfunctional in ghettoes or leave them on the streets and you really will have a problem. I live in a very up-market area, in a so-called prestige development; that is no safeguard from noisy heighbours, drunks in the street, the odd visit from the polis, not to mention all the petty bourgeois hang-ups (including studiously ignoring all the people you live beside). So-called ‘mixed tenure’ neighbourhoods are the ideal and the current housing ‘crisis’ (i.e. over-supply) in Ireland may offer a part solution. Simples.
MrX and Rumpelstilstkin: You’ve said it better than me.:cool:You are more than welcome to the scumbags, the drug dealers, and those whose only ambision in life is to reach the age of 18 so they can sign on the dole and live off the state for the rest of their lives… i don’t want those leeches under any circumstances
I presume you have an oxygen supply inside your plastic bag.
alright folks, lets get back to developments, away from the philosophical debate on whether or not your neighbour is a dealer
Decisions due on 10th Feb from county council for Castlelands Construction, on whether or not they will be granted permission to build 2 golf courses off the carrs hill road to carrigaline (fancily called Ballinrea), this is the deal they did with Douglas Golf Club to move them to this new course, while they would take Douglas Golf Clubs current course/lands and then redevelop it
proposals for a six storey multi storey car park with drive true and retail units on the old kinsale road.just wondering does anyone know where this is proposed for and if it is where i think it is im not quite sure what the multi storey car park will be used for?+anyone have pics of the proposed scheme for blackrock village?
@daniel_7 wrote:
proposals for a six storey multi storey car park with drive true and retail units on the old kinsale road.just wondering does anyone know where this is proposed for and if it is where i think it is im not quite sure what the multi storey car park will be used for?+anyone have pics of the proposed scheme for blackrock village?
As far as I know this is directly adjacent to the City Councils park & ride facility.
Wont happen. 6 stories will probably be considered too high and any new multi story carpark hasnt a hope of going ahead.
Can’t get the link to work yet, sorry.
@daniel_7 wrote:
proposals for a six storey multi storey car park with drive true and retail units on the old kinsale road.just wondering does anyone know where this is proposed for and if it is where i think it is im not quite sure what the multi storey car park will be used for?+anyone have pics of the proposed scheme for blackrock village?
The planning notice has appeared in the Echo but it hasn’t been lodged yet. The site is on the corner of the Kinsale road and the Black Ash road next to the Park and Ride.
anyone have a link to canal developments plans for the 3rd phase of our lady’s hospital?
@Jim Comic wrote:
anyone have a link to canal developments plans for the 3rd phase of our lady’s hospital?
The application includes a conservation report. Still no news on what the HSE plans to do with the Red Brick St Kevin’s building nearby.
Cork city council have issued a notice re a material contravention of the existing plan re a development by John Cleary in Mahon
Notice is hereby given in accordance with Section 34(6) of the Planning and Development Act 2000 that Cork City Council intends to consider deciding to grant a permission for development at site at “Ballinure, Mahon, Corkâ€. The development will consist of an office development consisting of a total Gross Floor Area of 32,318 sq.m. in a series of three blocks with internal streets on lands at Ballinure, Mahon, Cork. The proposal will range from 2 floors over ground to 7 floors over ground with ground floor commercial uses comprising of Retail Units, Retail Offices, Showrooms/Commercial Units, Primary Care Centre and Financial Services Unit, Leisure Centre and Restaurant; these proposed units will front onto the Ring Mahon Road, internal Mahon Point Shopping Centre access road and Estuary Drive. The proposal also allows for commercial uses such as Café Bistro (located in the internal street), landscaping, access revisions at the Mahon Point Junction access, basement car parking over two levels, access to the basement car park off the Mahon Point Shopping Centre internal access;
access/egress to Estuary Drive from the basement at Ballinure, Mahon, Cork.
The proposed development would materially contravene Land-Use Zoning Objective 5 ‘Residential, Local Services and Institutional Uses’ of the Cork City Development Plan 2009-2015, the objective of which is to protect and provide for residential uses, local services, and institutional and civic uses.:oAmazing, a few months after ‘careful consideration’ and ‘public consultation’ the highly paid city officials and councillors feel the need to materiality contravene our “NEW” city development plan.
Wonder what ‘performance related bonus CCC officials will receive for this mis-management?can anybody please tell me how to start a new thread its my first time as a member of archiseek… thanks
You go to the sub-forum for which you want to create the topic.
In the case of Cork, this is
https://archiseek.com/content/forumdisplay.php?f=45
There’s a button in the top left to create a new thread.
Some forums have a restriction on the ability of new members to create a thread. It’s so long since I was new here that I can’t remember if Archiseek is one of them!
I hear local Northside Councillors are pushing for a commercial type development on the site of T&A in Blackpool. I think they are thinking along the lines of a Lidl/Aldi development. I presume this could easily be done as the site is currently a commercial site? Parking would seem to be a problem though!!
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