Development of Dun Laoghaire seafront
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what buildings are involved in that plan, are there going to there apartments just outside it?
its hard to tell with a downlooking map
what htis i can’t find any
teir website don’t work any more
http://www.saveourseafront.ie/
ps is 2s being shelved again?
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/on-yer-bike-councillors-reject-plans-for-a-cutprice-alternative-to-expensive-coastal-cycleway-1390100.htmlis that detailed info not online mollox?
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/now-planners-move-to-safer-waters-over–dun-laoghaire-baths-1402738.html
so they going to choose the simpler plan bps
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/developers-of-harbour-tower-never-applied-for-planning-1379082.html
developer never applied for planning permission for the big tower in dun laoghaire harbour despite appearing to be working on the plan for four years.does this article somehow suggest sos is against practical sea related developments at the harbour i hope it doesn’t, i would be all in favour of boat yard etc,was it howth harbour where a company had difficulty getting planning for boat servicing place too? industry yes fancy apartments no.
I think if you look from the ground, as well as space, you’ll see that the baths site is in an awful state, as is Blackrock Baths. Why the Council can’t just build something is beyond me, they should sell the site if they can’t get agreement from the Councillors, the whole thing is too political at this stage.
I agree that a modest development could easily be built but why so modest? Why not somewhere in between original apartment plans and modest?
Down with this sort of thing!
If anyone is interested, I took some photos from inside the Dun Laoghaire Baths the other day, thought it would good to get some photos before any new developments take place….It’s by far the creepiest place I’ve ever explored!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1soanes/sets/72157604200112683/
Wow.
I have such vivid memories of the place in its ’80s heyday. These are indeed creepy photos. Blackrock Baths must be in a similar state these days, if not worse. I remember exploring them on the way home from school years ago (back when the 113 & 114 buses first appeared!).
(By an odd coincidence, just before opening this thread I put on Michael Nyman’s Decay Music. :))
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/locals-submit-peoples-plan-for-seafront-1472336.html
Locals submit ‘people’s plan’ for seafront
can anyone find their plan,Seafront group pitches their idea for baths site
http://www.dublinpeople.com/content/view/942/57/while the council’s plans appeared to provide some public amenity, he believed they were, in fact, proposals to demolish the baths and replace them with car parks and other commercially orientated buildings on the seafront.
“At best the council options are a stalling tactic to drag the issue out until the public gets so fed up it will accept anything,” he claimed. “At worst, if the council is serious, the baths will be demolished to make way for money making car parks, shops and breakwaters and then the public will be told the beach elements are not possible or will cost too much.”Boyd Barrett is a deluded crank who needs a job – He will hitch up at any oul campaign in order to get the right wingers of Dun Laoghaire to vote for his socialist twaddle that most of us left behind in our respective JCRs. He wants housing but no rezonings, he wants redevelopment of the seafront but no private involvement – all he really wants is a place in a chamber and he was dangerously close to achieveing this last year at Ciaran Cuffe’s expense. Will the well-heeled locals fall for his crap again next year? You bet they will. develop the seafront by all means but jaysus do it sensibly and make it great!
oh yeh I forgot
“Won’t someone please think of the children!!!!”
Shops? Oh My God Shops? In a town centre???? f**k – damn you capitalism!!! And Richard, car parks only make money if the people use them – yes. The people. your people.alonso wrote:Boyd Barrett is a deluded crank who needs a job – He will hitch up at any oul campaignCouldnt agree more Alonso – -but I am sure I read he is from a wealthy family so probably doesnt need that job. Would be nice to see him sweeping the streets or similar.
yep CC – a champagne socialist of the highest order. What sort of lefty hops on upper class bandwagons to prevent housing being built in an area where the locals have been priced out by, among other things, total development inertia.
Anyway back on topic with us….
The substance of the plan may actually be good. Previous ideas for this site have been overblown nonsense. The town needs leadership, the town needs governance and the town needs a massive boot up the hole. I’d almost, ALMOST, like to see a Sean Dunne type to buy the shopping centre and start throwing sense to the wind and get some sort of debate going about this once gem of a seaside settlement, now a rotting suburban corpse.
For now i’d settle for a decision.A final decision. And the same for Blackrock.
because of it was rrb who let the thing rot of course alon (anything will do ) so,
you went on about this on politics.ie and smuggly chided both sides you didn’t suggest how to break the deadlock, now you think you need a sean dunne, you think that’ll win you votes?
[QUyou think that’ll win you votes?[/QUOTE]
Shouldnt it be about what works best for the area and not votes for the boys!
Does anybody know why a new design / demolition of DL Shopping centre has not been proposed, Must be one of the worst looking buildings around.
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because of it was rrb who let the thing rot of course alon (anything will do ) so,
you went on about this on politics.ie and smuggly chided both sides you didn’t suggest how to break the deadlock, now you think you need a sean dunne, you think that’ll win you votes?
Well any reasonable reader of either site will conclude that my Sean Dunne comment may not have been entirely serious. Hence the almost ALMOST in the post
To break the deadlock you make a bloody decision, stick to it, and build the damn thing. The Dunne element of my comment is that the town requires the type of shock that Ballsbridge has received in order to drag it out of the malaise and stasis it has been let slip into in recent decades by Nimbyism and brutal leadership.
Dun laoghaire town, one of Ireland’s most prosperous, a gateway seaport with magnificent natural amenities on it’s doorstep and in the areas around, LOST population in the 02-06 period. No one can stand over that statistic with anything but shame. It’s not about winning votes. It’s about proper urban governance.
Amen,alonso; I’m just back from Cork and the parallel with DL (esp. seen in Cobh) is that the maritime seascape is wonderful and there should be no excuse for neglect, even in the current blip. I did not get the impression that civic governanance was exactly on the ball, judged by the general appearance of the townscape anyway.
‘the people’s proposal’ right on comrade, now go back to the 1970s Dave Spart
still more spite is directed at the irrelevant rbb then the people that have been in charge of this mess for decades, alot waffling spitemeisters around on archeire these days
LE, i have directed my ire several times here and on P.ie at those responsible, ie the elected members and the executive. My issue with RBB is that he exploits these issues for electoral gain (He nearly got to Leinster House by bullshitting the people for Christs sake) hiding his extreme Marxism under a bushel via jumping loudly on every bandwagon going. He cosies up to people that his politics is diametrically opposed to. He cosies up to FF, FG and PD voters and fools them into voting for his redundant lefty arseology. You know my record on these issues and you should know i write with substance on both sites. I’ve spoken with the guy and find him a vacuous waffler who belongs in student politics.
looking at the previous page you spent typed a lot more words deriding about rbb and the people then anything else, your mistaking berating both sides for intelligent comment much like ther other commentators on here, at then end of the day the people weren’t wrong to reject the proposal, and don’t see enough information on the new one to reject the assertion that its still doesn’t give enough to the public.
if someone wants to build private seaside pool complex they can do it somewhere else, the council only has the old ones to work on.
perhaps read the rest of the thread then.
I solemnly swear not to mention you know who again unless you know who says something silly again
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