Development of Dun Laoghaire seafront
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Does anybody have any more information on the multimillion-euro plan to transform Dún Laoghaire’s coastline into a “world-class tourist attraction”, as reported in the Irish Times last week? Sounds ominous.
Is this more kite flying or will something really come out of it?
@KerryBog2 wrote:
Thought of you Mollox when I read this. I’ll claim my bit of that fee for my input on the breakwater – I see they are planning 250m of it! Waiting to see plans first, but the underground car park in such a marine environment could be a bit fishy (literally!) Went by there some weeks ago and saw a drift of seabirds, oystercatchers and the like ,sheltering on the park, with heads firmly tucked under their wings as the waves lashed the coast. If they in-fill from Sandycove Baths to the East Pier it will be just adding to existing infill, as the park at Newtownsmith is of relatively recent creation (1940/50’s?) Anyone know?
K.KB2, please accept my assurance that your share of my fee :rolleyes: will be fully commensurate with the level of your recorded support for the beach proposal.;)
The outlines of the two sea-front proposals can be seen at http://www.dlrcoco.ie
Lagoon proposal reproduced below.
Concept A: Dún Laoghaire Lagoon
- A lagoon beach constructed adjacent to the East Pier with a linking pedestrian over bridge.
- An aquatic play area on the old baths site with a civic space and a building with a restaurant, providing for alternative therapies etc.
- An underground car park with up to 500 spaces
- New upper and lower walkways along entire sea frontage with plaza and viewing areas.
- Accommodation of the S2S project along the entire route.
- Limited land reclamation along Newtownsmith to facilitate civic amenities including the ‘Festival of World Cultures’.
- A newly landscaped Sandycove Park with water sports buildings.
- Improved facilities for Sandycove Harbour
Is the no.2 in the wrong above, are the baths not at the orange triangular thing.
Just an observation 🙂@ForzaIrlanda wrote:
Is the no.2 in the wrong above, are the baths not at the orange triangular thing.
Just an observation 🙂The “No.2” is the pedestrian bridge linking the back of the East Pier to the proposed breakwater surrounding the “lagoon”. And the baths are indeed at the “orange triangular thing” as you rightly surmise. I’m not clear what’s causing you confusion here.
However, I bet you can’t see “No.14 – Underground car park (500 cars)”
Is this because
(a) it’s underground, you’re not supposed to see it from an aerial view 🙂 and/or
(b) this is a DLRCoCo production 🙁That bubble wrap along the edge better not be more tumbled granite boulders.
Have we completely lost the ability to build quay walls?
Here’s the other concept
Concept A could possibly work, but 500 cars down there on a sunny day is questionable! Conscept B is not possible in my view, due to the probable build-up of detritus from prevailing winds. The smell of rotting seaweed would be horrific and no scouring by tidal action. (Kerrybog knows these waters from the days when he was a young supple dinghy sailor!) No. 14 in B is the existing car park.
Scary that DLRCC would publish such a major plan without knowing the difference between a mole, a jetty and a breakwater, but then, just look at the other stuff they do…… Any guesses on what the Dept. of the Marine might say? Is there a marine equivalent of the lesser spotted toad or slug??@KerryBog2 wrote:
Conscept B is not possible in my view, due to the probable build-up of detritus from prevailing winds. The smell of rotting seaweed would be horrific and no scouring by tidal action. (Kerrybog knows these waters from the days when he was a young supple dinghy sailor!) No. 14 in B is the existing car park.
Supporters of Concept B should also examine Blue-flagged Seapoint beach, which is a very similar though naturally occuring amenity, and ask why this is so relatively under-utilised by bathers & families with small children.
Seapoint even has its own DART station (Salthill) where you can simply throw your bucket and spade over the station wall and you’re on the beach.
And Seapoint enjoys a more sheltered position than Newtownsmith, protected as it is by Dun Laoghaire harbour.All a bit over the top if you ask me.
Let’s just put a decent, modest baths with a childrens pool and a cafe on the site.
Here’s my blog post:
http://cuffestreet.blogspot.com/2008/03/dn-laoghaire-baths-update.html
Ciarán Cuffe
I think dealing with the moratorium on developing Sandyford Cherrywood etc requires prioritisation over this, but I still like elements of the plans (except why the hell does an area served by the 46A and the DART need 500 parking spaces – where are the bike racks?). Once the private sector element was removed we were never gonna get more than a “modest” proposal built. I actually like Newtownsmith as it is anyway.
I regularly despair at this ludicrous excuse for a County Council.
The litany of travesties goes on:
Blackrock Baths
DL Baths
Sandyford
Monkstown Ring Road
Cherrywood…Hey Alonso
I am with you on this – I live in this councils area – – 500 parking spaces, muppets. DL is a dying town, ask anybody who owns a shop there and any of the young people in the area what their views are on DL. One main problem is traffic and the lack of access to the centre, council still not able to decide on best approach. Now they are hell bent on completing the charging for parking around Dart stations leading to even less reason to go or visit there. Perhaps the council will control the 500 spots and use them as a means to generate revenue -again:mad:
Rant over -I like this proposal but have my doubts on how clean the water will be in the beach area, what about the rats who live along the pier?, also this area is prone to large waves coming in from the HSS.
Ciaran – I am sure I read that you said Sandycove is not Barcelona – – it never will be with your total lack of vision. For a few months of the year Barcelona has a superior climate to ours but that should be all. Dublin is in direct competion with cities such as Barcelona. Wake up!!
I was in Barcelona at the start of January and it was very warm (sometimes hot) like summer weather. There is a big difference between the Irish climate and Barcelona. Ireland: Grey, miserable. Barcelona: Bright, dry.:(
Maud: try B in mid-july – hot, sticky, dusty and oppressive (and full of pickpockets and wide-boys)!
@Ciaran Cuffe wrote:
All a bit over the top if you ask me.
Why not continue the discussion here?
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=6092.
knock the whole thing down. it looks pathetic on google maps/earth
@Maskhadov wrote:
knock the whole thing down. it looks pathetic on google maps/earth
thankfully most of us judge the aesthetics of our urban areas from ground level rather than from space.
round a corner up a hill… say no more
The detailed drawings, including cross-sections, for the two concepts are now on display in Dun laoghaire Town Hall until 16th May.
Concept A, which includes the Lagoon Beach, is costed at €126.5m.
Concept B, which features an open-to-sea beach at Newtownsmith, comes in at €92m.Unsurprisingly, I favour Concept A, as the Lagoon Beach element most closely resembles my original “Dun Laoghaire Plage†proposal.
BUT
Concept A implementation is proposed in 4 distinct phases.
Phases 1 & 2, which include the 500 space underground car-park, are collectively priced @ €76m.
:(The Lagoon Beach is only Phase 3, which is priced @ €32m.However, given that Minister Dermot Ahern (?) recently announced that there isn’t a red cent available to build a new hospital in Navan, it’s hard to see central Govt providing major funding for either of these concepts.
It’ll be interesting to see if any elements of either concept ever get beyond the display stands in the Town Hall.
Meanwhile, local socialist Richard Boyd Barrett was holding a public meeting in the Kingston Hotel tonight (Mon 14th) which I was unable to attend. I await media reports with limited interest.
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