Deaf Center in Drumcondra
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July 31, 2007 at 9:39 am #709507notjimParticipant
So the RPA wants to demolish the deaf center on the drumcondra road to create a plaza for metro north: I would have mixed feelings about this, a plaza would be good and it is important to give access to the station and I guess handle the crowds on all-ireland days, but the other stations don’t seem to need plazas, the deaf center is a fine handsome building, it is a local landmark, a plaza will wreck the street line and you can’t help but feel that there are other solutions!
from http://www.rpa.ie/metro/about_metro/what_is_metro
Drumcondra Stop
Drumcondra is an important interchange stop on the Metro North line. Commuters on the Maynooth suburban rail line will be able to interchange at this stop to access the heart of the city centre or to travel to Dublin Airport. The stop serves the local communities, the educational institutions at St. Patrick’s College and Clonliffe College, as well as Croke Park.
As part of the ongoing appraisal of detailed design options for Metro North a number of options were considered for the design of the Drumcondra stop. Various options were examined but some would have had significant negative impacts including selected road closures for up to three years. The stop is proposed to will be located to the rear of St. Vincent’s Centre for the Deaf on Drumcondra Road. This will require the demolition of St. Vincent’s Centre for the Deaf to create a plaza area for passengers accessing the stop from Drumcondra Road.
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July 31, 2007 at 10:16 am #790426AnonymousInactive
Why not demolish Quinn’s pub instead? It would provide space for a similar plaza from Drumcondra Road – providing access to the stop off St. Joseph’s Ave.
Do they reckon that a charity is easier to pick on than a publican (who also successfully trades as a hotelier, large insurance broker, cement, glass, plastic, radiator, property mogul)?
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July 31, 2007 at 10:48 am #790427AnonymousInactive
it would be more expensive to stick a CPO on Quinn’s. Its worth 6 or 7 million and a CPO is sure to be challenged which would hold up the show even longer. The charity could be accomodated in the locality without much difficulty.
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July 31, 2007 at 10:54 am #790428AnonymousInactive
That’s certainly true, it would be far easier to tempt the charity with a purpose build deaf center than to cpo a pub. Couldn’t the arches be opened to give access to the plaza from St Anne’s road? Alternatively, couldn’t drumcondra station itself be rebuild to give access to plaza and better integrate with the metro?
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July 31, 2007 at 1:57 pm #790429adminKeymaster
Why don’t they just build the station entrances on the public street?
One in front of Quinns and two others on each corner of Clonliffe Rd
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July 31, 2007 at 2:40 pm #790430AnonymousInactive
My guess is that they are worried about crowds related to Croke Park, but it does seem strange, none of the other stations seem to need plazas, there is no talk of a plaza for the Mater stop for example and this is equally close to Croke Park.
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July 31, 2007 at 4:28 pm #790431adminKeymaster
http://www.explore-london.co.uk/oxfc.html
The Ballustrades at Oxford Circus London divert pedestrian flows in a very safe fashion. Every Saturday Henry St sees as much pressure as any of the Croke Park approach routes with flows of 15,000 an hour.
Now if Oxford Street was pleasant a shopping experience as Henry Street that would be something! It is why Henry St will always be a better retail location than O’Connell St.
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July 31, 2007 at 4:36 pm #790432AnonymousInactive
Ironic that crowds attending a sporting venue seem to have a problem using their legs and have to be practically dropped at the door. Then again, those of us unfortunate to live within two miles of Croke Park know GAA fans’ legs don’t work. Strangely, pop music fans, rugby or soccer fans do not appear to have not the same affliction.
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