Cycling in Irish Cities
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- April 3, 2008 at 10:40 am #761496
alonso
ParticipantThe lecture below should be of general interest to all involved in the planning and design fields. Spread the word. I believe there’s still plenty of bike parking available in Trinity 😉
http://www.dublincycling.ie
May 15, 2008 at 8:31 pm #761497missarchi
ParticipantGreat that the minister showed up! 2 points 😉
Now if we can only get John Parkin as a consultant for a bicycle parking study of Dublin/St Stephens green/metro stations and bicycle strategy for Dublin to be implemented as legislation
what are the odds??? these two can do some talking….
August 29, 2008 at 10:39 am #761498missarchi
Participanthttp://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/0828/1219680139697.html
Thursday, August 28, 2008
You’ll look sweet upon the seatOn your bike: cycling is perfectly compatible with fashion in Copenhagen. Photograph: Mikael Colville-Andersen, http://www.copenhagencyclechic.comOn your bike: cycling is perfectly compatible with fashion in Copenhagen. Photograph: Mikael Colville-Andersen, http://www.copenhagencyclechic.com
Bicycle safety campaigners here advocate helmets and high-visibility equipment but could a more Continental approach make cycling safer and get more people on their bikes? Cian Ginty reports
AS CLUNKY HELMETS, yellow reflective gear, and Lycra could be used as a stereotype for Irish cyclists, it might come as a surprise that women wearing high heels are a common sight on bicycles in Copenhagen.
The general image of cycling here is vastly different to so-called bicycle cultures where cycling is normalised and there is talk of a “slow bicycle movement”.
“Among thousands and thousands of cyclists on my daily routes, I think I see one or two reflective vests a week, if that,” says Mikael Colville-Andersen, a cycling advocate living in Copenhagen.
With Denmark, the Netherlands and Germany – where bicycle usage is high – the helmets and reflective clothing we think of as “a must” for cyclists are far from standard.
Colville-Andersen runs two bike advocacy blogs – the more serious http://www.Copenhagenize.com , and the style-centred Copenhagen Cycle Chic ( http://www.copenhagencyclechic.com ). Not only is he a bicycle advocate, but he is a campaigner for what he calls “the slow bicycle movement”.
“The main point with my blogs is that if cycling is to be an everyday activity then it can easily be done in everyday clothes, like millions of Europeans do every day. Actually, according to the European Cyclists’ Federation, there are 100 million Europeans who ride each day,” he says.
On Copenhagen Cycle Chic – largely a photographic documentation of the bicycle culture in Copenhagen – thousands of images show how normalised cycling is in the Danish capital. The photographs of cyclists in everyday clothing – and without helmets – reflect what has become standard behaviour for bike cultures: “This is the norm, yes. This is the norm for all cities and countries with established bike culture.
“If you can show people that cycling is effortless, doesn’t require ‘gear’ and is healthy – and you build them infrastructure to encourage them, then they will ride. Just look at Paris . . . Massive growth in cycling thanks to Velib. And now bike sales are rising because the Velibistas are graduating to their own bikes,” says Colville-Andersen.
“If [people] see normal people on normal bikes in normal clothes, they will be much closer to making the jump to cycling than if they see fancy bikes, gear and all that.”
IN PARIS, CYCLING has boomed just a year after the introduction of Velib, an on-street bike rental scheme with 20,000 bicycles. Automated stations are on many Parisian street corners. Set-up and maintenance costs are paid for in a billboards-for-bikes deal with ad company JC Decaux. A similar system being introduced by Dublin City Council and the same company has been criticised for its low number, just 450 bikes.
It is hoped those 450 bikes will help add a critical mass to the number of cyclists in Dublin. The most recent annual traffic survey by Dublin City Council showed a 17 per cent increase in cycling in the past year – a trend largely put down to the removal of heavy goods vehicles from the city’s roads since the opening of the Port Tunnel. But, because of a decline in the past decade, cycling is up only one per cent in 10 years.
“Cycling does not have a good image in Ireland, but maybe that is changing as more people come here from other European countries where cycling is more common,” says Muireann O’Dea, membership secretary at the Dublin Cycling Campaign (DCC).
“We definitely need to focus on the positive aspects of cycling – it has enormous health benefits, it gives you freedom, it’s the fastest and cheapest way to get around, and it’s better for the environment. Cycling is not as dangerous as people think – the number of cycling fatalities is far less than it was 20 years ago.”
There are many positives to focus on – from tackling obesity to helping the environment. In addition, providing cycling infrastructure costs less than other transport provisions, and bike parking takes up less space than car parking.
The DCC also wants a poster and TV campaign, with posters placed prominently on commuter routes highlighting that “It’s better by bike”.
BICYCLES HAVE A different image in different countries. Colville-Andersen says cycling was hijacked by the sports industry and he highlights how manufacturers sell bicycles worlds apart in the different European markets, pointing to raleighbikes.dk and raleigh.co.uk as a visual example of this.
“They sell ‘gear'”, he says of manufacturers here. “They have even brainwashed the population into worrying about the weight of their bikes. It’s just silly. They’ve stripped away chain guards, skirt guards, kickstands, fenders, you name it. All standard features on new and old bikes in Denmark and the Netherlands . . . I have a regular reader from Dublin who laments the fact that she can’t find any decent ‘granny bikes’ there, let alone baskets or chain guards.”
Image, of course, is not the only problem. Infrastructure is advanced in European countries with high bike usage – in Copenhagen, the first kerb-separated bike lanes were installed 25 years ago this year, while bicycles are allowed on the metro and regional trains, and taxis must be able to carry two bikes.
Meanwhile, in Ireland, cyclists have to contend with lanes simply painted on to roads or footpaths, or being bunched into bus lanes – hardly inspiring to would-be cyclists who are wary of buses. Bike parking at train stations, if available, amounts to the only integration with city or regional public transport.
Here, bike-safety promotion seems to overshadow bike promotion. The Government promotes helmets for cyclists, but those on the opposite side say the use of protective head gear, outside racing and mountain biking, is disproportionate safety obsession pushed on cyclists. They argue that the safety campaign damages the image of cycling by making it appear more dangerous than it is.
“Bike helmets are a personal issue and generally government bodies shouldn’t advocate helmet usage as it risks labelling cycling as a dangerous activity. The statistics do not reflect this. If you advocate bike helmets then you should, by following the logic, advocate pedestrian helmets since more pedestrians suffer head injuries than cyclists,” says Colville-Andersen.
The view of the DCC – which is in the process of being merged into a national campaign group – is broadly the same. A DCC position paper on helmets highlights studies in Sheffield and Australia that show mandatory helmets for motorists would save more lives: “Hence any attempt to pigeonhole cyclists into compulsory protective headgear is unbalanced as a safety initiative.”
MANDATORY HELMET-WEARING laws have been introduced in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Czech Republic, and parts of the US. It has been proven, at least in Australia and New Zealand, that this led to a drop in the numbers of people cycling ; none of those countries is known for its high levels of cycling. The Government here continues to focus on safety.
“In the context of Ireland and the situation here, [helmets, and reflective vests] should be worn in the interests of road safety,” says Christine Hegarty, a spokeswoman for the Road Safety Authority (RSA).
The agency rejects any claim that helmets and reflective vests damage the image of cycling by making it look more dangerous than it actually is: “Cyclists are vulnerable road-users. The task of the RSA is to promote cycle safety in order to prevent injury.”
The British Medical Association agrees with the RSA’s stance. However, Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist at the University of Bath, found “wearing a helmet puts cyclists at risk” as motorists drive closer to those wearing helmets. He used an ultrasonic distance sensor to record data that showed drivers passed an average of 3.33 inches closer when the cyclist wore a helmet than without. “Some people loathe my findings, usually because they are starting with the ‘common sense’ position that bicycle helmets must be a good thing,” Walker says on his blog.
Meanwhile, research published by the British Medical Journal , in its Injury Prevention Journal , supports the idea of safety in numbers. It shows that successfully promoting cycling can itself increase safety because, when more people start cycling, other road-users get used to them and fewer accidents occur. “This result is unexpected,” according to the research. “It appears that motorists adjust their behaviour in the presence of people walking and bicycling.”
However, there are conflicting views in the medical field, as among the cycling fraternity. But, if there is an honest interest in promoting cycling as a green and healthy mode of transport, instead of following car-dominated countries, should we not look to the example set by countries where cycling is normalised?
Peddling cycling how it works
With half of children being driven to school, promoting cycling, walking and public transport use is the aim of the Green Schools environmental initiative. Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey recently said the pilot scheme resulted in a 10 per cent drop in car use, with an eight per cent increase in walking or cycling.
But is there political will for real improvement?
The Dublin Cycle Campaign (DCC), in a submission to the Department of Transport’s national cycle policy last December, said: “Girls-only schools all have a uniform policy that requires the wearing of skirts and this is the main reason why girls do not cycle. So, policy change required straight away there. The Department of Education will have to deal with a change in uniform-wearing policy.”
Muireann O’Dea, membership secretary at the DCC, echoes this: “Wearing helmets and hi-vis jackets is definitely a disincentive for children, particularly girls, who are image-conscious.”
But others, including the Dublin Transportation Office (DTO) – who have run the travel section of the pilot Green Schools scheme – aren’t so certain how image conscious girls are.
“The DTO would agree that a significant challenge in cycling promotion exists regarding post-primary children, but would not discriminate based on gender, and would not venture to suggest what the reasons for this might be without undertaking research,” said spokeswoman Sara Morris. The agency points out how the initiative “is helping achieve growth in cycling numbers in participating schools”.
© 2008 The Irish Times
This article appears in the print edition of the Irish Times
August 29, 2008 at 7:12 pm #761499Devin
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Yeah I notice this in Amsterdam too. All the hotties cycle.
August 29, 2008 at 7:36 pm #761500SunnyDub
ParticipantWhy do all the PC heads insist on helmets? Even Boris Johnson has to wear one now for fear of offending them!
August 29, 2008 at 8:45 pm #761501ctesiphon
Participant@Devin wrote:
Yeah I notice this in Amsterdam too. All the hotties cycle.
Not just the hotties- it’s everyone.
From a cursory daily examination, I’d say the profile of cyclists in Dublin is widening daily, though the numbers here are still way below the Danes, Dutch, Germans, etc. In Copenhagen, for example, 35% of trips to work and school are by bike, and 28% of all trips. And take it from me, it’s a beautiful thing to see in action (and I’m not just referring to the ladies!). I spent a few days there earlier this year, and I found my habits changed when I returned- more laid back, less aggressive and antagonistic. Sadly, that didn’t last.
(I still don’t break the lights though, Devin! ;))
One correction I’d make to the article, though- “The Government promotes helmets for cyclists” is not entirely true. The RSA promotes them, but other organs of the state have the opposite view, one informed by the common sense approach evidenced in the article above. The problem really is that there is no consistent message from the Govt. on the matter, and the RSA is the only branch making noise about it, hence the article’s understandable conclusion.
August 29, 2008 at 10:35 pm #761502Anonymous
Inactive@SunnyDub wrote:
Why do all the PC heads insist on helmets? Even Boris Johnson has to wear one now for fear of offending them!
This is obviously a statement by someone who has never cycled in Dublin City in recent years. 😎 I think I’ll put this comment forward for the ‘Stupid Comment of the Month Award’. :rolleyes:
August 30, 2008 at 12:09 am #761503ctesiphon
ParticipantCan we not have that debate, please? There are never any winners. In essence, each to their own. The end? 🙂
(I can link to many versions of it that exist on the internet already, if anyone’s interested. All you need and then some can be found at: http://www.cyclehelmets.org/)
September 8, 2008 at 7:25 pm #761504SunnyDub
ParticipantI’ve cycled plenty in the city in recent years as it happens…and I would welcome much better facilities, and I’ve no problem with people wearing helmets…but why do some people have a problem with others not wearing them…
Anyway, anyone know any good shops for cruiser bikes?
September 8, 2008 at 9:28 pm #761505ctesiphon
ParticipantI don’t know if any shop here stocks either of these, but you could always treat yourself to a trip to Leipzig or Copenhagen. 😉
http://www.retrovelo.de/ (Review.)
http://velorbis.com/ (The Scrap Deluxe would get my vote- Review.)
September 9, 2008 at 8:19 pm #761506SunnyDub
ParticipantNow that’s what I’m talking bout, cool bikes, it’s a pity Irish bike shops only really sell mountain bikes and racers, why no trad street bikes?
September 19, 2008 at 7:43 pm #761507SunnyDub
ParticipantExcellent article from today’s Guardian on cycling & road safety…
Elle Macpherson deserves a medal for defying the health and safety gods
The press are idiots to condemn the model for cycling without a helmet. The real villains are over-active traffic managers
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/19/transport.transport
Simon Jenkins, The Guardian, 19th Sept 08
The model Elle Macpherson was this week pilloried by the tabloids for bicycling in a London street without a helmet and with her (helmeted) son on her handlebars. “Elle on wheels,” cried the Mail. “What the Elle are you doing?” screamed the Mirror with an editorial titled “Elle to pay”. Even the Times demanded a response to her behaviour from the gods of health and safety. The answer from the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents was a predictable howl: “Illegal and dangerous!”
The truth is the opposite. Macpherson was probably the safest cyclist in London that day. Like the mayor, Boris Johnson, she is signed up (I guess by instinct) to the Wilde-Adams theory of compensatory risk assessment. By not wearing a helmet, she lowers her risk threshold and thus rides more carefully. She commendably cycles rather than drives a car and protects her child, who cannot manage his own risk. The society should give her a medal, not insult her. The press were idiots.
By chance, this week sees the publication of another tome in the mountain of evidence that Britain’s safety culture is making us increasingly unsafe. Tom Vanderbilt’s Traffic collates a mass of evidence about how we drive cars and use roads. It demonstrates the extent of mendacious brain-washing inflicted on the public by health-and-safety lawyers, bureaucrats and sellers of expensive equipment.
September 20, 2008 at 3:56 pm #761508Anonymous
Inactivewhy do some people have a problem with others not wearing them
Maybe when you cycle somewhere that doesn’t have heavy traffic like a park.
I do have a problem when someone is seen not wearing a helmet, especially one who is famous face (and in this case, the influential world of fashion). This is seen as it is ok not to wear helmets (or probably in this case ,not fashionable to wear one). Do you think it is a positive message to send out.
This same irresponsible reaction by people occurred during the law for mandatory helmet wearing was brought in for users of Motorbikes. Helmets help to greatly reduce head trauma. This is the reason why everyone should wear one, not because someone is tell you to do so.
I don’t like wearing them. They look stupid, unless you have the entire cycling gear on and and you have the physique of a racing cyclist. :rolleyes: I wear them because drivers, pedestrians and cyclists can be idiots and totally unpredictable.
September 20, 2008 at 4:51 pm #761509jimg
ParticipantThis same irresponsible reaction by people occurred during the law for mandatory helmet wearing was brought in for users of Motorbikes. Helmets help to greatly reduce head trauma. This is the reason why everyone should wear one, not because someone is tell you to do so.
Sorry you are arguing by aristotelian logic; as an admirer of empiricism, I need more to be convinced.
The case for motorbike helmets is black and white and has been proven so in study after study. Ditto for seatbelts.
This is absolutely not the case for bicycle helmets; there have very conflicting results in the research – google it and you will find studies which have found them to cause more harm than good. Thus criticising someone for not wearing a helmet is unreasonable in my opinion.
The case for bicycle helmets seems to largely based on the idea that “it stands to reason that they improve safety”. On that basis, would you criticise pedestrians for not wearing helmets? I’m sure many die of head trauma when involved in accidents with motorised traffic.
September 22, 2008 at 7:06 pm #761510SunnyDub
Participant“I do have a problem when someone is seen not wearing a helmet, especially one who is famous face (and in this case, the influential world of fashion). This is seen as it is ok not to wear helmets (or probably in this case ,not fashionable to wear one). Do you think it is a positive message to send out“
Even if you disagree with the evidence that societies with mandatory helmet laws have more accidents, and they do, it strikes me as very illiberal, if not downright fascist, to force other people to wear a helmet to assuage your guilt. people are responsible for their own actions and are well able to make informed decisions…in fact, given that there are less accidents where mandatory helmet laws are absent, it is good for society and others based on your interfering logic.:p
September 23, 2008 at 2:54 pm #761511ctesiphon
Participantweehamster- did you have a look at the link I posted above?
All you need and then some can be found at: http://www.cyclehelmets.org/
Seriously- it’s impossible to have this debate without knowledge of the content of that site.
@weehamster wrote:
I do have a problem when someone is seen not wearing a helmet, especially one who is famous face (and in this case, the influential world of fashion). This is seen as it is ok not to wear helmets (or probably in this case ,not fashionable to wear one). Do you think it is a positive message to send out.
Absolutely. This is the most positive message it is possible to send out. The more people realise that it is not necessary to have any special equipment – aside from a bike and night gear – the better. I was delighted to see the photos of Elle Macpherson – and Agnes Deyn (regularly) and Pixie Geldof (see yesterday’s edition of the Star [go on- just this once]) – riding a normal bike in a normal way as part of her normal day.

And in the last week I’ve seen Gordon D’Arcy and Denis Hickie both riding bikes in Dublin city- neither one wearing a helmet. (Doing Leinster proud!)
I’m not saying I would carry a toddler on my handlebars as Elle did, but your objection to the photo was on the grounds of the absence of a helmet on her own head.
@weehamster wrote:
This same irresponsible reaction by people occurred during the law for mandatory helmet wearing was brought in for users of Motorbikes. Helmets help to greatly reduce head trauma. This is the reason why everyone should wear one, not because someone is tell you to do so.
What do you mean ‘greatly reduce head trauma’ [my emphasis]? That’s a statement bordering on the meaningless, and typical of the groundless generalisations proffered by the promoters of helmets when all fact-based research and analysis indicates otherwise. In a relatively limited number of cases, helmets will prevent such an injury (incidents that are generally high speed crashes that don’t involve other vehicles, i.e. a road racer who becomes unseated when descending a mountain at speed, for example). In a higher number of cases in other situations – falling down at home; driving a car; walking to the shops – a helmet would prevent similar injury types. I presume, for the sake of consistency, you advocate the wearing of helmets in all such situations?
Furthermore, your statement ignores the fact that, in some situations, helmets can actually reduce a cyclist’s safety. Admittedly, these incidents are not all that common (rotational force applied to the neck being the most usual), but they do exist.
However, notwithstanding all of the above, there is another, more important dimension at work here that must be acknowledged. The collective or cumulative aspect of this debate is the critical one and, in essence, it is a textbook illustration of the fact that the common good is not just the sum of all individual goods. Even allowing for the fact that helmets can occasionally protect the individual in limited cases, it has been conclusively proven that the promotion of helmet wearing – the introduction of mandatory helmet laws, for example – results in a reduction in cyclist numbers (the reasons are numerous, but perceptions of the safety of the mode is the most significant one). When you consider that the accident rate for cycling actually rises as cycling numbers fall, this leads to the conclusion that promotion of helmets is a counter-productive measure which ultimately reduces the overall safety of cycling.
In addition, there is evidence to show that a car overtaking a cyclist will leave more room if the cyclist is not wearing a helmet, demonstrating again – though for different reasons – that helmet wearing actually increases risk for cyclists.
Finally, it has been calculated that, for every life year saved by the wearing of a helmet (someone who hits their head in an accident that would probably have killed them without the helmet [can never be conclusively proven, obviously]), 20 life years are lost through a variety of other means directly linked to the reduction in the number of cyclists- obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, etc.
What this all points to is the conclusion that the promotion of helmet wearing is a well-meaning exercise (probably- we can’t ignore the fact that many promoters happen to be manufacturers of the products, so the purity of their motive is, at best, questionable) that has the opposite effect from that which is intended.
Given the fact, mentioned above, that risk goes up as numbers go down, the opposite is obviously also true- as numbers increase, the accident rate falls. (This is different from, say, the accident rate for cars, where there is a relatively proportional relationship between the number of cars on the road and the number of people killed or seriously injured.) Therefore, I would argue that the best way of increasing the safety of cyclists is to get more people cycling, an objective which is not achievable by the promotion of helmets and which is, in fact, undermined by that very act. Otherwise, you are not just treating the symptoms rather than the disease, you are actually preparing petri dishes for the spores.
The Copenhagenize website has been following the debate in detail for some time. I would suggest having a look at the posts on helmets for a balanced perspective.
(Lastly – honest, I’m nearly finished! – this is an interesting article on mandatory motorcycle helmets that gave me pause for thought: http://www.forbes.com/fyi/1999/0503/041.html)
September 26, 2008 at 10:23 am #761512ctesiphon
ParticipantMore of the same ill-informed tosh from the Irish Daily Mail, 25.ix.08:

1) Cycling one-handed is not dangerous- it’s one of the first skills a rider should learn. How otherwise can hand signals be made?
2) Cycling in an overcoat is about as dangerous as cycling in a skirt. Skirt guards are available for back wheels, but serve to protect the skirt/coat from dirt more than to keep it from catching in the ‘wheels, cogs and gears’ (cogs and gears?:confused:)- unless Mr Cuffe is actually wearing one of those floor-length Matrix type coats, but it doesn’t look like it from here.
3) See my last post for the helmet stuff. This point by the IDM is blatant scare-mongering, borne from a total ignorance of anything other than a desire to sensationalise.
4a) Does the absence of lights during daylight hours even need to be addressed?
4b) Who says he doesn’t have lights in his bag?
4c) But what’s that you say? Ther are lights on his bike? Where? Oh, right- attached to the front axle. And guess what- they look like the fancy Danish ones that require no batteries. What’s next? “Cuffe undermines national economy by refusing to buy batteries”?The palpable concern for Mr Cuffe’s welfare is so touching. If only there was as much concern for the trees that died in order to produce the paper on which this crap was printed. Such a waste of life…
September 26, 2008 at 11:06 am #761513gunter
Participant@ctesiphon wrote:
More of the same ill-informed tosh from the Irish Daily Mail, 25.ix.08:
If only there was as much concern for the trees that died in order to produce the paper on which this crap was printed. Such a waste of life…
Don’t make them go out of business, they’re the cheepest place to re-run planning ads when you’ve missed the deadline the first time round.
September 26, 2008 at 11:43 am #761514Anonymous
InactiveYou can waffle whatever spiel you want, I’m going by personal experiences. Drivers in Dublin are dangerous and reckless and don’t pay attention of their surroundings. They serve intro bus/cycle lanes at free will. Because of this I was knocked down 4 times. Twice I hit my head off the ground after flying through the air thanks to the vehicle hitting me. Lets say I was very happy that I wore a helmet. The last time I also shattered my wrist which took forever to heal. Now my dear brother-in-law wasn’t so lucky. He also hit his head off the pavement but he didn’t ware helmets (which is what you are promoting). He died from head trauma.
Now you can continue on showing pictures of people with no helmets all you like, Just remember you are promoting cycling without helmets . My brother-in-law death could have been prevented by one, the driver of the car paying attention and two by him wearing a helmet.
September 26, 2008 at 12:54 pm #761515ctesiphon
Participantweehamster- with the greatest of respect and sympathy, I will take hard evidence (‘wafffle’ and ‘spiel’? No.) over personal experience any day. It is precisely the prizing of personal experience over facts that causes so many problems when it comes to policy making and legislation. Personal experience simply has no place in that arena. The death of anyone in the circumstances you mention is certainly a tragedy, but to use that as the basis for legislation or policy is plain wrong.
And Yes- I certainly am promoting cycling without a helmet. I promote it every day by my actions, every time I mount my bike. I am proud to do so, and I will not change.
Sorry if this seems harsh, or disrespectful to your own circumstances, but it is a matter of great importance to me.
As I said upthread, this debate has been had, repeatedly. I didn’t want to go into it, but you called those of us who choose to go without helmets ‘irresponsible’ and I couldn’t let your subjective post go unchallenged.
Feel free to wear a helmet, by all means, but please do not try to dictate to me how I should dress as I go about my life.
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