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  • #761476
    GrahamH
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    Fantastic news – all that’s need now is a new bridge to link the two ๐Ÿ™‚

    Not that it’s exactly indicative of the typical Dublin experience (as video in any event heightens tensions), but the video below does convey just how ridiculously hostile Dublin city centre can be at times for pedestrians and cyclists.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klIqo4ft3aQ

    Could it ever have been imagined 100 years ago that the urban experience would be so drastically altered?

    #761477
    magicbastarder
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    What puts this tragic case in even more context is the story contained in a few papers today about the three car passengers involved in a crash seven years ago who were awarded cumulative damages of 815,000 euros for injuries sustained.
    One got 204,165 for a fractured leg, another got 165,252 for fractures, and the third got 445,632 for ‘injuries’. I don’t want to downplay these circumstances, and the parties involved were obviously badly injured, but it does highlight the point I made earlier about penalties not fitting the crime in the case of cycling. In the case cited above, he was overtaking on the inside, driving in a bus lane, doing 47 in a 30 zone and driving unaccompanied – all of which to me screams ‘very dangerous driving’ – yet his ‘genuine remorse’ seems to have resulted in a 1,500 fine and two-year ban.

    are damages not usually the result of court cases seperate to the ones in which punitive action is taken against the offender?

    #761478
    Morlan
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    @GrahamH wrote:

    Not that it’s exactly indicative of the typical Dublin experience (as video in any event heightens tensions), but the video below does convey just how ridiculously hostile Dublin city centre can be at times for pedestrians and cyclists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klIqo4ft3aQ

    I only just saw your post now. That’s my video ๐Ÿ˜€ All taken on my trusty Ixus 55. ๐Ÿ™‚

    #761479
    ctesiphon
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    @magicbastarder wrote:

    are damages not usually the result of court cases seperate to the ones in which punitive action is taken against the offender?

    afaik, yes. My post was as a result of the two stories appearing in the papers at roughly the same time and, yes, my ire at what I saw to be a minimal punishment for the driver in the latter case. As Lotts said, ‘What an amazingly low fine.’

    #761480
    Devin
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klIqo4ft3aQ

    That film perfectly captures the experience of Dublin city centre today: the low-lying, suffocating menace of the traffic as you walk around contrasted with the great potential of its streets and vistas. Should be shown to everyone arriving in the airport as a prelude! Well done Morlan.

    #761481
    GrahamH
    Participant

    It’s a small world Morlan ๐Ÿ˜€

    (phew – good thing I didn’t say anything nasty ;)) Nice progression from day to night.

    But really. even the amount of beeping horns is nothing short of a joke – I’ve never come across the city quite so aggressive before. Unless we just don’t notice that element when ‘live’, whatever about everything else.

    low-lying, suffocating menace

    Perfect description. Unfortunately.

    #761482
    Devin
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    #761483
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    Just spotted this on the DDDA website: the Docklands City Cycle is on again this year, Sunday 29th July.

    See you there! ๐Ÿ™‚

    http://www.dublindocklands.ie/event_list.jsp?event_date=2007-7-29

    #761484
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    *bump*

    In case anyone has forgotten or isn’t aware, the Dublin City Cycle is on tomorrow morning at 11 am, starting in the IFSC.

    Check http://www.dublincitycycle.ie for details.

    And apparently the forecast is good! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I mean: ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    #761485
    alonso
    Participant

    I’d be there but for the screw currently holding the bones in my leg together! damn you football!!! one week later and I might’ve been available, but such is life… enjoy it people

    #761486
    Sarsfield
    Participant

    Hopefully a couple of Government Ministers will be taking part this year? ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    #761487
    Starch
    Participant

    ….could someone tell me how the rickshaws are doing in dublin…..I cycle one in Oxford and a tourist told me that they have them back at home?

    #761488
    shweeney
    Participant

    they have 3, I think, so not really a viable form of transport as they’re damn difficult to find.

    #761489
    Starch
    Participant

    oh really……do you know if they are allowed to ply for hire or do the regular taxi give them hassle….the rickshaw business is booming in london right now

    #761490
    Richards
    Participant

    They seem to be every where on the Green, Grafton ST, Westmoreland St & O Connell Axis

    #761491
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    Just copying these here from the O’Connell Street thread. I don’t have time now to discuss, but if anyone else wants to have a go… DCC, I’m looking at you.

    @Alek Smart wrote:

    Well,If yiz want something even BETTER….hop on a 46A as far as Leeson St/Appian Way/Waterloo Rd. (Bring your flask and sandwiches)
    Then be prepared to be amazed and elevated to a far higher plane at the scope of DCC`s professional planning branch as one attempts to take in Irelands ONLY Bicycle Dual carriageway divided by a Bus Lane with (For added safety) a Bus Stop on the inside.

    Also take in the “Warning Sign” which I`m sure IS contained in the “Road Signs Manual”……well maybe the one used in the Childrens Art Competition.

    I suspect Civic Offices has been the subject of a Hallucinogenic Mushroom Gas attack by Aliens from the planet Muppit…….Now where IS that P45 form….???? ๐Ÿ˜ก

    hutton wrote:
    Alek has a point re this – was along here today]
    #761492
    JuliusCaesar
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    Just copying these here from the O’Connell Street thread. I don’t have time now to discuss, but if anyone else wants to have a go… DCC, I’m looking at you.

    any photos?

    #761493
    hutton
    Participant

    @JuliusCaesar wrote:

    any photos?

    Its comical – still the same, obviously being left that way. bizarre. Best point of view for a snap maybe from upstairs in a bus.

    #761494
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    I use this stretch on the way into town every day, but it’s usually so busy in the morning that it’d be tricky to get a picture.

    I see what the aim is, I think- it’s an attempt to rectify the previous problem caused by the cycle lane hugging the kerb inside a left turning lane that had its own filter, and the consequent obstacle caused by straight ahead cyclists ‘blocking’ the left turning traffic into Appian Way, especially buses (the No.18?) coming from Waterloo Road.

    But much of the traffic that goes left up Appian Way comes from Morehampton Road (N11) and is already in the left-most lane well in advance of the junction at the top of Waterloo Road, so in effect the cycle lane veers across a line of traffic. Ironically, it’s probably the congestion in the morning that makes this situation somewhat bearable, as the traffic speeds are often so low that the riske are minimised.

    Since the southbound/outbound stretch between Appian Way and Waterloo Road was revised, which is almost identical to the northbound/inbound stretch described above but with the added complication of a bus stop to contend with, I’ve changed my route home to go via Ranelagh instead, even if it adds five minutes onto my journey.

    Perhaps it has improved in the last couple of weeks?

    Any 46Aers out there with a camera phone?

    #761495
    ctesiphon
    Participant

    I noticed this morning that the inbound section of this has been done up in red, and the old kerb-hugging lane is gone for good. It is definitely more legible now than two weeks ago.

    I couldn’t see the outbound side- might check it this evening. Any other reports?

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