Council plans to delist Georgian Clonmel hotel
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It had additional listing added which features the current use being preserved.
Joydivision disagrees with me on the long term outcome but visionary support for the integrity of the structure by virtue of it continuing in its intended use was provided by Michael Connaghan, Oisin Quinn and every other councillor on DCC.
so its the commercial use of the building thats protected and not the building fabric??…. i admit im not at all up to speed with the happenings in bewelys over the last few years… are you saying the councilors were in favour of delisting it??? did it actually happen?…..
Both were protected once the use was tied
No-one talked about delisting the structure and fabric but a shoe shop or Ann Summers wouldn’t be the same would it?
Here are two examples. Sligo Council recently delisted a number of thatched structures in the county and in-of course-Kerry, we have this http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2005/05/19/story840131144.asp
It seems the complaints of owners of listed buildings that the listing of their properties is inconvenient and onerous on them is enough tp persuade friendly councillors to do the necessary. Then there was the York Street business here in Dublin.@Hiivaladan wrote:
Here are two examples. Sligo Council recently delisted a number of thatched structures in the county and in-of course-Kerry, we have this http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2005/05/19/story840131144.asp
It seems the complaints of owners of listed buildings that the listing of their properties is inconvenient and onerous on them is enough tp persuade friendly councillors to do the necessary. Than there was the York Street business here in Dublin.Very interesting thread. My inclination is to protect and I am a supporter of An Taisce.
However I agree that some frightful rubbish is listed. I have in mind one particular ruin which is costing the owner thousands every year to secure from vandals/refurbish after vandalism. It is the ugliest piece of rubbish I have ever seen listed, is totally derilict and was added to the list in very recent times due to local demand. Its only claim to fame is a connection with an obscure minor irish writer.
It seems quite unfair to me and I have a lot of sympathy for the owner (it came with a farm purchase and was an unlisted ruin at the time).
However, as I said above, it is almost certainly better to err on the side of adding rather than deleting from the list.
well, well….. thanks hiivaladan…. its very handy to have information to reinforce an argument…
i know im barking up a tree with my proposal, but i hope the experience will be worth it… the knowledge ive gained on this site alone has been worth it so far….
@Tippfm News website wrote:
One of the main stumbling blocks preventing the development of a
multi-storey car-park in Clonmel may have been overcome.Despite advice to the contrary from Council officials, the members
of Clonmel Borough Council have decided to de-list the former
Clonmel Arms hotel site.According to Fianna Fail representative Niall Dennehy they hope
this change to the draft development plan will clear the way for the
BORC Project to progress..All in the interests of providing a multi-storey car park :rolleyes:
The elegant Clonmel Arms Hotel, marred by plastic windows on its upper floors and clunky modern extension to the right-hand side.
Still has railings, doorcases and other features intact.
Interesting arrangement of doors. And what of that magnificent adjoining facade – is this to be swept away too?
A second planning application, was lodged to Clonmel Borough Council and granted and again An Taisce have appealed the decision As one can image An Taisce are as popular as ever:D Have to say I’m with An Taisce on this one, while the town may need a multi-storey car park for 60 days in the year, what’s proposed and where its proposed aren’t the solution.
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