Cornmarket St (De Coal Kay)
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who actually designed the new street paving?
i was asking one of the builders on-site the other day about phase II, he was saying that the carriageway along the front of Guy’s will continue out to the Quay, while a second carriageway will extend parallel to this one connecting Kyel st. to the Quay, forming a paved island in between, stretching from outside the garda station to the quayside… this seems like a duplication – why not just extend the Guy’s side passage to meet the Kyle St one, then extend to the Quay from there?
does anyone have a plan of the finished design?
… Beth Gali, duh – she’ll have repaved every street in Cork soon.
here’s a pdf of the overall plan if anyone’s interested
http://www.bethgali.com/2006%20CORK%20-%20CONCURS%20CORNMARKET%20(ENG).pdf
@Yossarian wrote:
who actually designed the new street paving?
i was asking one of the builders on-site the other day about phase II, he was saying that the carriageway along the front of Guy’s will continue out to the Quay, while a second carriageway will extend parallel to this one connecting Kyel st. to the Quay, forming a paved island in between, stretching from outside the garda station to the quayside… this seems like a duplication – why not just extend the Guy’s side passage to meet the Kyle St one, then extend to the Quay from there?
does anyone have a plan of the finished design?
I suspect the answer is that the Guy’s side passage will be one-way Northbound, while the Bridewell side one will be one way Southbound. If they merged into one road, the traffic would have to cross each other to end up on the correct side of the road. By having them separated, they operate as two different one-way streets.
I don’t know if there was any real need to maintain the vehicle access to Kyle St though. It will just encourage people to use North Main St as a through road. Crossing the city Northside to Southside is no real problem and North Main St doesn’t have to come into it. Unfortunately, there are so few routes Southside to Northside that full pedestrianisation of the Coal Quay is not practical.
I’d imagine access is required to Kyle street for the Dunnes Stores loading bay located on that street. you could access it via north main street, but then as you say it would encourage the use of the street as a thoroughfare… shame they can’t pedestrianise it.
@barneymagee wrote:
The work from Kyle Street around to the Coal Quay will carry on in Phase II. I think that starts in October. Funding is in place for it but it won’t be finished until the next year. Work will stop over the Christmas period. I presume it will just continue the same style from the other half of the street.
Thanks.
I was surprised to see the trees go in, as the Cornmarket St/Coal Quay has been quite an open area as long as I remember it. Is the plan still to have stalls along the street?
Also, the street lights on the East side seem to be a new style neither Flannery nor Pitmit. They seem to be just very tall, slender poles; though the actual lamps aren’t installed yet, so we’ll see.
Any chance of some pictures? 😀
Yea the traders are expected back when the current work finishes. Probably the end of the month although I did see the mobile phone accessories guy there yesterday. (Thursday)
According to the artists impression posters up on the street it suggests there will be new canopies but I think this has been stalled. The businesses and the traders had concerns so I think its a wait and see on a possible canopy.
I hear that the Bridewell has been declared unfit for purpose as a garda station.
Of course, it gets a temporary reprieve as it’s the only city centre garda station with cells in it.
This could be interesting in terms of the street development. Will we see a new garda station on the site? Will we get a complete overhaul of the existing building? Will the gardai just close it? If so, what happens to the site?
Of course, a lot will depend on currently available central government funding.
Does anyone know if the building is listed? I had heard previously that it is.
Was on Coal Quay at lunch time. Will be nice when finished (ie. once works materials, fencing etc is removed and once the works vehicles parked on the site are removed). No idea yet of lighting – just poles still. Interesting though to see how adjacent businesses are responding. The Cornstore seem to have widened their outside eating area to avail of the new wider footpath – works very well and looks nice. The Bodega however have put in place (not sure how recent this is) Carlsberg sponsored green awnings bearing the name “Bodega”. They look awful and completely out of place on a lovely building.
they didn’t really offend me, those awnings. i just look forward to seeing the rest of the local businesses sort their acts out, the majority of signage and general upkeep of the facades needs to be drastically improved. also, if there’s to be no movement on the pair of vacant sites adjacent to the loft, i’d love to see them surfaced and used for something.
I’m guessing the lamps will be like those on Anglesea St; or as seen here in the plans for Academy St.
They also have these on Opera Lane itself, on the buildings rather than than on posts (as you can see on the right-hand side of this image).
Last time by this area, there were piles of paving stones newly deposited at the Northern end – it looks like the second phase of this is going ahead! Good to see.
Hi, does anyone have photos of how all of this progressing?? Haven’t been home since September so not sure what it looks like now. Cheers
I’ll try to grab some photos later in the week, if no one else beats me to it. Phase 1 looks good, but the old broken down stalls there don’t really fit in. Phase 2 has started and is flying along. I don’t know what the final plan is regarding the canopy or semi-permanent stalls.
Good man who_me, it would great if you can get a few photos up!
Apologies! I mean to post these a LOT sooner. They’re not great (taken on a phone) but better than nothing!
The view from near the Roundy, looking North. The Cornstore and Bodega are using the wider footpath for tables/smoking areas.
The top of Kyle St. You can see the new road layout here, with the Cornmarket and Kyle St lanes now being separated.
The Bridewell station; looks much better with the new pavement; and as you can see here it extends around onto Kyrl’s St.
Thanks for the pictures, the street looks great!
Thanks for the photos, looks good, going to see it in the flesh next month when I am back for a couple of weeks!
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