cork docklands
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Really great news regarding the atlantic quarter next question tho is will it actually get built in this economic climate. And in fairness credit where its due to the city council, they actually seem to be doing something to get the whole docklands going.
Story is in the Irish Times today, hopefully it will go ahead. Bit of a problem with their domain at the moment though –
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Either the domain has been overused, or the reseller ran out of resources.@sovereign12 wrote:
Really great news regarding the atlantic quarter next question tho is will it actually get built in this economic climate. And in fairness credit where its due to the city council, they actually seem to be doing something to get the whole docklands going.
From what I have heard the events centre and the hotel would go ahead straight away if the bridge was put in place with a number of large office plate buildings (not all of course)…….makes sense in the economic climate we are in, start with the stuff that has a good chance of working.
Having passed the Elysian on countless occasions and having viewed it from a variety of different perspectives it has just dawned on me that I dont notice it anymore. If there were another ten stories on top I really dont think that it would make any difference. This Irish paranoia with heigth is completely ridiculous. A properly designed and positioned tall building need not impose. Lash em up I say.
It looks awful as you approach it coming down Albert Rd.
But then, that’s the low-rise part you see there.
You’re right that the tower element has almost no negative effect on any city perspective.
saw a brief report in the evening echo last week, that brian cowen was in Cork and said the Gateway Innovation Fund was “suspended”. Did I read that right? But that would mean the funding for the bridge is gone up in smoke so for the moment wouldnt it? Arent these the sort of projects that should be funded now given that they would supply jobs etc? If that doesnt happen it will be hard to open up the docklands for the next few years
I fear that the redevelopement of the docks incl. the bridge and light rail is a dead duck for another few years
@Pug wrote:
saw a brief report in the evening echo last week, that brian cowen was in Cork and said the Gateway Innovation Fund was “suspended”. Did I read that right? But that would mean the funding for the bridge is gone up in smoke so for the moment wouldnt it? Arent these the sort of projects that should be funded now given that they would supply jobs etc? If that doesnt happen it will be hard to open up the docklands for the next few years
I don’t think this government has any initiative at all. Nevermind the jobs created in the construction phase which would be very welcome but the jobs and boost to the economy of a permanent venue for concerts, exhibitions etc would mean they would have their money (our money I should say) back in years!
@Leesider wrote:
I don’t think this government has any initiative at all. Nevermind the jobs created in the construction phase which would be very welcome but the jobs and boost to the economy of a permanent venue for concerts, exhibitions etc would mean they would have their money (our money I should say) back in years!
I can understand the need for developing public venues etc, but I don’t think the office and apartment space proposed has any market for the foreseeable future.
It would be fantastic if we could still go ahead with some of the public spaces, and let the apartments and offices happen as needed.
@MrX wrote:
I can understand the need for developing public venues etc, but I don’t think the office and apartment space proposed has any market for the foreseeable future.
It would be fantastic if we could still go ahead with some of the public spaces, and let the apartments and offices happen as needed.
I realise the office space and apartments are a non runner at the moment but the events centre and a hotel would not be and provide a welcome boost to the economy, green and public spaces on top of this and it could be a nice area……..of course the long overdue development of the pairc would be a welcome boost as well
Actually, office space could still be a goer.
Although Cork has a glut of commercial space, there’s a serious lack of good quality modern office space near the city centre (Believe me, we’re in the process of looking!). Plenty out in Mahon, Little Island or up at the airport, but not in the city centre itself.
@jungle wrote:
Actually, office space could still be a goer.
Although Cork has a glut of commercial space, there’s a serious lack of good quality modern office space near the city centre (Believe me, we’re in the process of looking!). Plenty out in Mahon, Little Island or up at the airport, but not in the city centre itself.
I think his aim first day was to attract large companies such as google to cork, for this the office plate has to be quite big……..fat chance of all this happening when we our local politicans can’t even get us a bridge!
remarkable that the govt have no means apparently of giving us a bridge costing 60m to kickstart the entire docklands but magically a bridge that costs 59m is sitting on a barge just outside Dublin Port having arrived from Rotterdam
Sure the jackeens don’t need it now that the IFSC is gone quiet…
Could we stage a daring raid to steal it? It’s probably too short but sure we could throw a few planks across the gap until we find the extra few bob.
@jungle wrote:
Actually, office space could still be a goer.
Although Cork has a glut of commercial space, there’s a serious lack of good quality modern office space near the city centre (Believe me, we’re in the process of looking!). Plenty out in Mahon, Little Island or up at the airport, but not in the city centre itself.
Can second this – we’re about to move from the city centre for this very reason. D’OH! 🙁
@Pug wrote:
remarkable that the govt have no means apparently of giving us a bridge costing 60m to kickstart the entire docklands but magically a bridge that costs 59m is sitting on a barge just outside Dublin Port having arrived from Rotterdam
not to mention the 5 billion for the metro……I will say it again our politicans are crap!
@Leesider wrote:
not to mention the 5 billion for the metro……I will say it again our politicans are crap!
+ 1
It’s sad to see private business (the sextant, an crubin, el vino, boardwalk etc) close to the elysian being brave enough to give it a go but getting f*** all in return. The Bonded Warehouse is a MUST as cultural/CHQ type building.
@Angry Rebel wrote:
Sure the jackeens don’t need it now that the IFSC is gone quiet…
Could we stage a daring raid to steal it? It’s probably too short but sure we could throw a few planks across the gap until we find the extra few bob.
From Dublin? Surely, A Bridge Too Far? (sorry!)
@who_me wrote:
Can second this – we’re about to move from the city centre for this very reason. D’OH! 🙁
thats mad, i think there was a good few due to come on line but i imagine the developers are holding tough in the downturn, immediate thoughts of ones i thought would be available are Lapps Quay, Clarkes Bridge, The Elysian, Georges quay and in time then the Sullivans Quay might be around and i think whoever it is on grand parade that is developing the site by the library, from what i saw on city planning website yesterday, seemed to have got the nod to change residential to office
you’re right though, the space that comes to mind is all eastgate, city gate, ballincollig etc
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