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  • #778905
    SoundsDreamy
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7753171.stm

    Belfast takes another step towards becoming Ireland’s second city.

    #778906
    mickeydocs
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    Any updates on Atlantic quarter?

    #778907
    Pug
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    no, i was looking at the planning on city council website recently and they were due to send in Further Info but havent. The lack of govt commitment on the docklands bridge is very poor. Also makes you wonder, with CIE in trouble, what will they do with the years- late-in-being-developed Horgans Quay? might be a positive in that CIE have to sell off the site and as per usual, private sector can do it properly.

    #778908
    rockcastle
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    @mickeydocs wrote:

    Any updates on Atlantic quarter?

    My understanding is they have until the end of Jan to put in the FI

    #778909
    green_jesus
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    I came across this link…

    http://www.haconnect.ie/portfolio/category/digital-marketing/

    Will the Atlantic Quarter ever get built? :confused:

    And is there any news on the R&H hall development?

    #778910
    Pug
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    still waiting on the further info re atlantic quarter, they have as the previous poster said, 2 weeks to submit the further info

    R&H Hall were asked for a lot of Further info and changes for their plans so i think they have until the end of Feb to submit that but they could always I assume re submit a plan after that date anyway

    While waiting on the governments dithering about the money for infrastructure, Cork City Council to their credit have ploughed ahead with the Oral hearing as to the future road structure in the docklands so that report should be out in mid feb

    #778911
    green_jesus
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    Thank for the update. So it’s after February before we know if any more progress has been made.

    #778912
    SoundsDreamy
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    Not a very realiable source but there was a mention on the echo about HH site and how they intented to proceed with hotel and Arch (conference centre) this probably makes sense in current climate. I’m sure a concert venue would be vibable and a hotel to could feed off that.

    Any word on the GAA investing in their Grounds Pairc ui chaoimh or are they to busy in-fighting?:confused:

    How long more before MAS move out of the showgrounds. I thought city successfully CPO’d the showgrounds.

    Irrespective of the docklands going ahead the showgrounds could be cleaned up…:mad:

    #778913
    lawyer
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    Notice of CPO for Showgrounds on the Irish Examiner today,

    #778914
    SoundsDreamy
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    What kind of notice as I thought the CPO had been passed.
    Has MAS even begun looking for another site? I’m sure Howard Holding would gladly part with old Cork City grounds in Bishopstown.

    #778915
    lawyer
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    ‘SHOWGROUNDS/MONAGHAN’S ROAD ACCQUISITION ORDER NO. 1 OF 2006’
    Form of notice of entry for compulsory puirchase order under section 76 of and the third schedule of the housing act 1966.

    I hope this means more to you than it does to me.
    Page 36 of yesterdays Irish ‘Examiner’

    #778916
    bosco
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    @SoundsDreamy wrote:

    What kind of notice as I thought the CPO had been passed.
    Has MAS even begun looking for another site? I’m sure Howard Holding would gladly part with old Cork City grounds in Bishopstown.

    Piece in the echo during the week mentioned plans to develop this site (old FAI pitch) with student apartments, some commercial (bank, shop) and business (‘science & technology’). Up to 4 stories. CSD spokesman said they’ll fight it of course.

    #778917
    Angry Rebel
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    It’s McCarthy Developments that own the old Cork City ground. They recently applied for PP for a mixed use scheme.

    #778918
    Pug
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    Origin have applied to demolish and clear the materials from 2 sites, the Buhler Grain silo and the Simon & Mouchel grain silos at sites bordered by Kennedy Quay, Marina Walk and Mill Lane – not sure which silos they are but presume they are the silos other than the R&H Hall one, for which Origin were requested for Further Information re their application for that site last year.

    #778919
    Pug
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    North Docklands

    I was wondering does anyone have any info on CIE and their continued inexplicable delay in sorting out Kent station? This was due to be turned round to face the quays and redeveloped years ago. They were to do a deal with Manor Park Homes for that site, Manor Park Homes subsequently was sold off and CIE were to create a Masterplan for the site (having applied for the site twice and been refused twice, having been asked to prepare? yes, you’ve guessed it, a Masterplan).

    Anyone heard any more about it?

    #778920
    sovereign12
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    Not gonna happen any time soon I’m afraid the money ain’t there. The only plan on the cards at the moment for Kent station is simply to extend platform 4 down further so after the curve the trains will stop on a straight. As for turning the station around, well another life time perhaps but for the inside information I have those plans are seriously on the long finger.

    #778921
    Pug
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    absolute complete and utter joke. Remember, 21m was earmarked for that and Martin Cullen reduced it to 4m for the lick of paint and minor refurb. Joke.

    #778922
    sovereign12
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    all the limited money they had was put towards the kildare route project which now is only extending out 10miles from heuston to hazelhatch. Remember CIE are just another one of the Governments whipping boys. On another note anybody heard anything regarding the Hoard Holdings development by the showgrounds. Think I read in the paper the other day the City Councel were supposed to make a final decision on it today but haven’t heard anything.

    #778923
    Pug
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    they got the nod for it, very few objectors as well so is good news, the only people that might bring it to Bord pleanala is themselves, given city councils recent history of asking for huge development contributions.

    Like waiting on CIE to sort themselves out and rebuild the train station, we now wait on the government to sort the funding for the required new bridge. To be fair, behind the scenes, city council seem to be doing what they can, they got the application for the bridge going, it has to trawl its way through government departments and into Brussels at some stage, city council also drove ahead with the oral hearings and application to CPO the roads in the Docklands and got landowners organised as to what needs to be done for that.

    #778924
    theblimp
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    I wonder what bearing, if any, last night’s Evening Echo story about a marquee-type ‘venue’ at the Landfill site will have on HH’s plans for the Docklands. I understand planning there is either through or imminent. Can’t see the CCC supporting 2 similar-size structures, but what do I know!!

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