Carlton Cinema Development
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- February 13, 2008 at 5:19 pm #712028
jdivision
Participant@StephenC wrote:
Such a huge and important site….its amazing that DCC havent drawn up some guidelines for its development, or made an Action Area Plan or prepared an urban design framework and asked for some public feedback on wwhat should go here. Disgraceful!
I think you need to read some of the background to what’s happened on the site. DCC management’s entire actions here have been disgraceful.
February 23, 2009 at 6:08 pm #712029cgcsb
Participanthow’s this getting on? I visited Victoria Square in Belfast recently. It’s amazing. Hope this will do something similar for Dublin
March 8, 2009 at 10:00 pm #712030Devin
ParticipantOral hearing announced for the Carlton. No date set.
There should be one thread for the Carlton really. There’s 10 pages solid of Carlton discussion on the O’Connell Street thread from pages 120 to 129, then a few more bits after that. Should be all cut in here really. Administrator, if you have a chance ……
March 11, 2009 at 9:40 am #712031markpb
ParticipantIf the oral hearing is still ahead of us, what’s going on behind the hoarding at Parnell Mooneys or the RDH?
March 12, 2009 at 6:37 pm #712032cgcsb
Participantthey’ve taken the windows out of the royal Dublin. and there is some kind of crane like aparatus at the back of the site. There’s scafolding up all over the site. Perhaps it’s being demolished in advance of planning permission for the new building. There would be no point in refurbishing the hotel at this stage in the day
March 12, 2009 at 7:49 pm #712033GrahamH
ParticipantI got the impression it’s the exact opposite. It looks like the brickwork is being cleaned and the windows being replaced in a Burlington-like temporary makeover. Hard to tell. The fact that all the furnishings were auctioned off a few weeks ago would perhaps suggest otherwise…
The townhouse at No. 42 is undergoing remedial stabilisation works to the interior. As part of the project, a proposal to clean the front and rear facades was declared non-exempt by DCC, i.e. requiring planning permission. Presumably an application is about to be submitted, ensuring the scaffold is used to best advantage.
March 13, 2009 at 6:06 pm #712034cgcsb
Participantwell all the furniature is gone as well as some of the internal walls. I thought maybe they were renovating too but what would be the point of that if it was to be domolished within the next year or two.
What’s the current status of the Dublin Central plan anyway? When can we expect a planning decision? I assume An Taisce have objected considering it’s a developement that can be seen from somewhere and will generate employment and revitalize a derelict area. They generally don’t approve of such ungodly things.
March 13, 2009 at 7:40 pm #712035notjim
Participantwasn’t there a separate application for the hotel and no.42?
March 13, 2009 at 9:13 pm #712036gunter
Participant@cgcsb wrote:
I assume An Taisce have objected considering it’s a developement that can be seen from somewhere and will generate employment and revitalize a derelict area. They generally don’t approve of such ungodly things.
I imagine they took the time to read the application, examine the several crates of drawings and supporting material submitted and, having done so, submitted criticism of any parts that they believed to be in conflict with stated heritage objectives, or were in conflict with the goal of protecting and enhancing the character of the city centre.
That’s just a wild guess.
March 14, 2009 at 11:36 am #712037urbanisto
ParticipantI think there was a seperate application for that site…must check it out.
Agreed about the An Taisce bashing…. you shouldnt knock civic engagement – especially given the times we’re in.
March 16, 2009 at 12:25 pm #712038jdivision
Participant@notjim wrote:
wasn’t there a separate application for the hotel and no.42?
There was and it was granted permission
http://www.tribune.ie/archive/article/2008/jul/06/green-light-for-joe-oreillys-oconnell-street-proje/March 17, 2009 at 1:17 pm #712039notjim
ParticipantWhen I walked down OCS last night there was feverish work on the Carlton, almost like it was intended to reopen it as an amusements or some such. Anyone know about this?
March 18, 2009 at 1:15 am #712040Alek Smart
ParticipantRe: Carlton Cinema Development
When I walked down OCS last night there was feverish work on the Carlton, almost like it was intended to reopen it as an amusements or some such. Anyone know about this?Crikey notjim,I`m not surprised it was feverish…I would imagine the philistines needed to finish their work and get back across the State Line before certain contributors to this forum could get them.
There are NO words in the English language which can adequately describe what has become of the Carlton….. 😮
Is there a mechanism in the Constitution whereby City Managers can be repeatedly dunked in the River Liffey in order to decide for once and for all if they are actually Witches or Warlocks ?
March 18, 2009 at 9:04 am #712041fergalr
ParticipantIt looks like it’s going to reopen as a 4d cinema.
March 18, 2009 at 6:12 pm #712042igy
ParticipantIt seems to have opened. I await with bated breath the photos someone has no doubt taken of their hideous signage 🙂
March 18, 2009 at 7:50 pm #712043GrahamH
ParticipantIt’s not worthy of a photograph. Such a breathtaking breaching of planning codes as to leave one, if hardly surprised, then nonetheless dumbfounded. Has this unofficial approval as it’s part of the Carlton development?
March 19, 2009 at 1:45 am #712044Alek Smart
ParticipantThis really is Las Vegas style stuff… :confused:
I must assume that some form of punishment,either in this life or the next will befall those responsible….It makes Dr Quirkeys look like an example of restrained decency……
It must have taken a Brown Envelope the size of Mayo to slip this travesty through the extensive and exhaustive Planning Processes which DCC preside over…
IAP my ass ! 🙂
March 19, 2009 at 10:08 am #712045markpb
Participant@Alek Smart wrote:
I must assume that some form of punishment,either in this life or the next will befall those responsible….It makes Dr Quirkeys look like an example of restrained decency……
Sums it up perfectly. I tried to take a photo but something terrible happened the lens on my camera 😉
March 19, 2009 at 6:55 pm #712046hutton
ParticipantI couldn’t believe when I saw this today – and Dick Quirke has erected a massive banner hoarding advertising his Dr Quirkey’s, which of itself contains tolerating a non-compliant gambling outfit to advertise on an unauthorised structure on the capital’s finest street – you just couln’t make this stuff up 😡
March 19, 2009 at 7:19 pm #712047igy
ParticipantTried to photograph this from a bus earlier but another bus obscured my view. It’s truly hideous. At least the fake Dr Quirkey’s façade looked like it might belong there…
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