Carlton Cinema Development
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It must be to do with the film because they put up a new neon sign on the Ambassador as well and were filming there on Tuesday night. The film name on the Ambassador was Spicey World if that means anything to anyone. I can’t remember what the neon sign was calling the Ambassador. I can only assume that the Carlton is also being used for the same purpose
Sorry, you’re right – it’s bulb. I passed it at speed in my car. My point was that it was a film, however, which I think is correct.
Well done to the Gresham the latest establishment on O’Connell St to do their part for its renovation. As Bertie would say…’A Lot done, a lot more to do’
They’ve been doing some renovations. I read it in the paper the other day. The whole ground floor was revamped. Im not if they have done anything to the outside but at least it means they are staying put and not selling their premises off to become an internet cafe or a souvenir shop. I must drop by and have a look….its supposed to be quite nice
I passed the Carlton on Sunday, very strange looking indeed, stonework around entrance covered so it looks clean, false windows inserted. Strangely enough it looks better, excellent to know the that neon Carlton letters still work too.
I think could be a nail in the coffin of this development, with the downturn adding the rest.
City council moves to protect Rising site
The Irish IndependentDublin City councillors yesterday passed a motion to protect a safe house used by the leaders of the 1916 Rising even though planning permission for the site has been granted. The motion to designate No 16 Moore Street in the capital’s city centre a protected structure was unanimously passed by councillors after it emerged that the historic value of the site had not been brought to the attention of councillors when they were considering the developer’s planning application.
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=840352&issue_id=8140
It is good to see this house saved and the plaque that was once there should be re installed to commemerate our history. The Shopping mall proposal could still go ahead…….surely the wonderful achitects/developers with a bit of thinking with the old grey matter can incorporate this into the whole proposed plan…….which has been on hold too since they got planning permission.
Should the house be saved? Does it have any architectural merit?
Aren’t there enough monuments to the Rising already…the Garden of Remberance (in need of a spruce up), the tacky murals in the GPO, a whole section in the National Museum, Arbour Hill, Kilmainham Gaol….the list goes on!
Is there any value in holding onto this building because of its slim historical attachements. After all, you could argue that most buildings in Dublin have some dubious claim to famei agree with gregf, incorporating the 1916 building can only make the mall more interesting, pictures of the moore street facade make it look very bland.
From what I have seen…the whole thing is bland – front and back.
But what is this 1916 building… its starting to take on the form of a Gandon masterpiece. Is it rather just an ordinary late 19 century 4 storey buildingExactly, just because some guys took refuge in it, probably because it was the only front door they could force…..
And so we end up with the Irish solution to an Irish problem – we incorporate the old building into the new one and both look out of context -see National Gallery extn with ballroom for example.
I have no qualms with saving heritage that’s worth saving but if it is just an ordinary house then it is probably not woth saving. In years to come if I become famous for something, I wouldn’t like my 3 bed semi preserved for the nation!
It’s reminiscent of the dispute about one of the houses that James Joyce lived in from a few years ago – Joyce lived in about 30 different houses around Dublin over the space of a few years – are they all equally important?
yes, but isn’t that one of the nice things about the ngi extension, i love the way it has the old ball room in the cafe. nor is it such a uniquely irish thing to mix old and new buildings, though it is something that is done well in the temple bar.
Ah yes, the Carlton cinema. Remember this…?Bord Pleananla has just agreed that Carlton Group must sell the property on to Dublin City Council. This compulsory purchase (which had been stalled by the appeal) should kick start the redevelopment of this part of O’connell st.
…..but what about the grandiose plans for this …with shopping malls, hotels etc …linking the one time cinema to the now ugly but redeveloped to be ILAC centre…..and with a glass canopy over Moore Street to keep all the ‘salt of the earth’ traders and hawkers dry.
The whole thing seems to have run out of steam. I havent heard anything about the ILAC centre for some time.
I agree with the question: What happens now? Will the CC hand the whole site over to a new developer for a similar type development? Or will it break the site into parcels again? Or will they revive the Abbey Theatre move idea?
There are an increasing number of vacant sites emerging in this area contrary to the purpose fo the IAP.. this is the most obvious but also the Independent offices, the old AIB branch on O’Connell Street. The IAP needs a bit of a heavey handed push from DCC to get things moving again.
Also what about the idea of making developers like Carlton Group pay for unacceptable delays in developing prime or flagship sites in IAP areas? Immsure they will get a more than fair price for the land under a CPO….what about compensating the city for the time they have wasted.
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